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Posted by Paul_D_North_Jr on Saturday, February 2, 2013 3:26 PM

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[snipped - PDN] . . . Batteries in the GPS receivers suddenly had VERY short lives- cold compromises productivity in unusual ways. . . .

I like to point out that while we do have not only "iron men (and/ or women)", but also expensive electronic instruments that are delicate and sensitive to some weather conditions which can affect them adversely (rain, high winds, cold, etc.), and are also costly and lengthy to repair - and that's why our crew isn't out there today (unless of course you, Mr. Client, want to agree to reimburse us for both the total costs of any needed repairs including recalibration and shipping, and the rental of a replacement unit during those repairs . . . ). 

Carl, I really didn't like the movie either, but had to watch it twice back then for some reason - once was as the attendance-mandatory Saturday afternoon "scheduled entertainment" during a winter weekend high school band trip to Malden (a suburban Boston community), which is no doubt why I remember it.  As it happened, the previous year our band had also gone to another community up there (Lynn) in the winter, and that was only 3 years after our family had gone to Boston as part of a summer vacation trip.  No rail action to speak of on the Boston portion of any of those trips, so there wasn't much redeeming in Boston for any of them.  Remember - this was way back in the day before high school bands and classes started to 'routinely' go to such comparatively exotic places as Disney World, Mexico, Carribean islands, Europe, Japan, etc.  As a result, I describe it as a variation of the old W.C. Fields joke about Philadelphia: "First prize is a weekend in Boston; second prize is 2 weekends in Boston . . . ".  Mischief  To the disappointment of my historically-minded wife, I still adamantly refuse to go back to Boston until I've seen lots of other more interesting places - most of which are still on the "to-go-to" list - although I have allowed at times that I would be more inclined to go to Boston if we went by Amtrak, especially the Acela Express or the Boston section of the Lake Shore Limited trains.   

Besides, at the moment I was more interested in finding a way to needle zugmann atfer his Richard Harris remark . . . Smile, Wink & Grin

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Posted by mudchicken on Saturday, February 2, 2013 9:01 AM

Carl:

Have to go home and wait about 10 days to come back. New conflict the railroads have to deal with is beyond my control. (another of CR's skeletons has oozed of the closet and is causing heartburn at NS/CSX and city offices)

Froze my butt off Fri morning near Clark Jcn. ...Batteries in the GPS receivers suddenly had VERY short lives- cold compromises productivity in unusual ways. Surprised to see CN-IC end cab switchers still out in transfer service on the old J - love hearing the old 567's and 645's growling without the turboes.

Didn't shovel on the jobsite, but did have to break out the sandvik and machete to hack my way down two main tracks.

The carnage along I-80 (semi's, 5th wheels, etc) was unbelievable last night between Des Moines and Iowa City.....Hope Mr. Vos was not out there in TH-FR's storm.

Get home tonight and ready for some seriousZzzZzzZzz...pushed it a little far in the sleep deprivation dept.

Get to attack a BNSF project on Monday in 60 degree weather....woohoo!

Mudchicken Nothing is worth taking the risk of losing a life over. Come home tonight in the same condition that you left home this morning in. Safety begins with ME.... cinscocom-west
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Posted by CShaveRR on Friday, February 1, 2013 10:13 PM

Paul, the more I got into that particular movie, the less I liked it.

MC, how are things going in the snow belt?  Did you shovel your way down to the right-of-way in question?
Headed back yet?

I'm hoping to get to that new exhibit at the Indiana Welcome Center sometime (check out the Newswire if you can).

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Posted by Paul_D_North_Jr on Thursday, January 31, 2013 9:16 PM

Or "A Man Called Horse" (1970) ? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066049/  Surprise   

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Posted by tree68 on Thursday, January 31, 2013 8:37 PM

The fellows who had to go take a look at their new fire engine got back a little while ago.  They said they were down to 20-ish MPH and turned on the traffic director on the the back of the light bar to help ensure they didn't get nailed from behind...

The lake effect band has tightened up.  Oswego will have a healthy dose of the white stuff by morning.

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Posted by zardoz on Thursday, January 31, 2013 8:05 PM

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I don't envy you going anywhere tomorrow (Saturday might be better).  Right now the sun is shining, but it's raw-looking out there!

The sun is mostly out at my house. To the south, however, a lot of folks are having some serious problems driving - slick roads and limited visibility due to lake effect snows.

I was considering a run into town.  I think I'll just stay home.

I sure don't like the extreme cold (and I like it less each year), but at least you don't have to shovel it.

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Posted by zugmann on Thursday, January 31, 2013 5:22 PM

On the radio show this morning, they were talking about the song "Macarthur Park" - specifically Richard Harris' version. 

Now I want to watch the Molly Maguires.

It's been fun.  But it isn't much fun anymore.   Signing off for now. 


  

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Posted by tree68 on Thursday, January 31, 2013 10:59 AM

CShaveRR

I don't envy you going anywhere tomorrow (Saturday might be better).  Right now the sun is shining, but it's raw-looking out there!

The sun is mostly out at my house. To the south, however, a lot of folks are having some serious problems driving - slick roads and limited visibility due to lake effect snows.

I was considering a run into town.  I think I'll just stay home.

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Posted by CShaveRR on Thursday, January 31, 2013 10:10 AM

I don't envy you going anywhere tomorrow (Saturday might be better).  Right now the sun is shining, but it's raw-looking out there!

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Posted by zardoz on Thursday, January 31, 2013 9:39 AM

Thanks, Carl.

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Posted by CNW 6000 on Wednesday, January 30, 2013 11:09 PM

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Staring at 11" of snow...blower time!  Look ma...no hands! In the blower that is. Off to freeze.

Good lad! Beer

Ha!  All parts attached & functioning.  It was fun to use the blower again.

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Posted by CShaveRR on Wednesday, January 30, 2013 9:10 PM

Jim, the best I can suggest is Eola Yard, west end, at the foot of McClure Road (Not easy to find...from 88 West take Farnsworth south.  Cross the tracks, turn left and stay on roads that keep you close to the tracks.

Now, as for quilt shops (best I can do on short notice), the closest thing is Prairie Shop Quilts, on the northeast corner of Randall Road and Wilson Street in Batavia. Sadly, Randall doesn't have an exit off 88.

We'd offer to join you, but things are a bit busy here these days--Friday is payday and all that that entails for us, and Pat has a pillow-stuffing engagement on Saturday (soft-stuffed heart-shaped pillows for cancer patients; something the women at the church do). 

Dan, be very wary when offering to lend someone a hand with snow removal... we're very glad you feel up to it.

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Posted by zardoz on Wednesday, January 30, 2013 8:25 PM

CNW 6000

Staring at 11" of snow...blower time!  Look ma...no hands! In the blower that is. Off to freeze.

Good lad! Beer

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Posted by zardoz on Wednesday, January 30, 2013 8:24 PM

Carl,

Wifey and I might head towards Aurora either Friday or Saturday. Do you have any destination suggestions of either a railroad nature or in the crafty/quilting/sewing genre?

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Posted by CNW 6000 on Wednesday, January 30, 2013 7:57 PM

Staring at 11" of snow...blower time!  Look ma...no hands! In the blower that is. Off to freeze.

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Posted by CShaveRR on Wednesday, January 30, 2013 10:06 AM

More on the freight-car front:  one manifest freight on the BNSF yielded sightings of three new (to me...probably built in 2012) series of freight cars, representing over 3000 cars in the books.  Over 2900 of them were T109 tank cars (around 31,000 gallons each, probably for the crude-oil business).

Along with LaGrange, where we stopped for lunch and some quick shopping, our little road trip took us into the city, where I explored the area to the north of the old Stock Yards.  There are some interesting track layouts in there, with sharp curves and good-looking main lines (probably NS, past their Ashland Avenue Yard).  I found one or two industries that were being supplied by a yard with literally dozens of tallow tank cars.  We also got to within a block of the warehouse that was burning last week...there are still hot spots in the rubble (Ashland Avenue is still closed past the site).

Yesterday was a little wet during the day, but temperatures went up over 60.  Today is more like January, with temps in the 30s and rain expected to change to snow (we got 1.75 inches of rain from late afternoon to this morning), and windy...just perfect for doing my errands around town.  Tomorrow we don't expect the high to get out of the teens.

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Posted by CShaveRR on Sunday, January 27, 2013 7:43 PM

MC, I hope you got as much done as possible before today--this weather is unfit for man, woman, or chicken!  As of right now, rain is falling and freezing on contact with the ground.  There's a bit of thunder out there, too.

On another note, I was surprised to see some new covered hopper cars for the plastics industry yesterday...I don't think we've had too many of those in the past seven years or so.  EQUX 12000-12499 (numbers signifying the year of the order, evidently) are ARI Center Flows.

I also found out that somebody else has made the first report of a 2013-built freight car...a flat underneath an auto rack, from what I remember.  When I worked at Proviso, I usually won this friendly contest...once I did it on January 5!

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Posted by John WR on Sunday, January 27, 2013 1:46 PM

The active line there is the old Reading.  I don't know what company has it now.  It runs through Hopewell Township,  Pennington and crosses the Delaware River at West Trenton.  SEPTA provides commuter service into Philadelphia.  Also New York garbage trains regularly use the line.  

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Posted by mudchicken on Sunday, January 27, 2013 1:24 PM

Carl:

Yep, railroad is still there (saw it in the daylight and in the dark - shoulda quit in the dark while I was ahead Ick!),  4 inch trees between the rails on top of a decrepit 15 foot tall doubletrack fill....(RE: Gary & Western)...

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Posted by John WR on Saturday, January 26, 2013 10:57 AM

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Scenic - but probably ran through it in the middle of the night - and slow, since it is has many curves, esp. north of Lambertville, NJ. 

But necessary in its day because there was no easy way to get to the PRR to Washington.  When the Hell Gate Bridge was completed all that was changed and the train re-routed through New York Penn Station.  

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Posted by Paul_D_North_Jr on Saturday, January 26, 2013 6:24 AM

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former Belvidere-Delaware branch of the PRR, of which only a few miles are still in operation

There was a time when the Federal Express (trains 71 and 72) between Boston and Washington ran along the Bel Del and joined the PRR at Trenton.  As I recall it ran along the New York and New England Route and crossed the Hudson around Brewster, NY bypassing New York City.  

Scenic - but probably ran through it in the middle of the night - and slow, since it is has many curves, esp. north of Lambertville, NJ. 

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Posted by CShaveRR on Friday, January 25, 2013 9:42 PM

Pat and I walked over the Poughkeepsie Bridge on the hottest Memorial Day in memory this past May.

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Posted by John WR on Friday, January 25, 2013 8:59 PM

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Yep, for about 3 years (Oct. 1912 - Jan. 1916)

President Taft used to ride it.  

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Posted by Paul_D_North_Jr on Friday, January 25, 2013 8:20 PM

Yep, for about 3 years (Oct. 1912 - Jan. 1916), using the New Haven's Poughkeepsie Bridge over the Hudson River.  See:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Express_(passenger_train)

http://www.railroad.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=96&t=56125 

http://lhr.railfan.net/BO92TT.htm 

Page 28 of 80 of this document - "NAMED TRAINS OF THE PRR INCLUDING THROUGH SERVICES" by Christopher T. Baer, September 8, 2009 ed., at:

 http://www.prrths.com/Hagley/PRR%20NAMED%20TRAINS.pdf  

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Posted by John WR on Thursday, January 24, 2013 8:25 PM

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former Belvidere-Delaware branch of the PRR, of which only a few miles are still in operation

There was a time when the Federal Express (trains 71 and 72) between Boston and Washington ran along the Bel Del and joined the PRR at Trenton.  As I recall it ran along the New York and New England Route and crossed the Hudson around Brewster, NY bypassing New York City.  

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Posted by Paul_D_North_Jr on Thursday, January 24, 2013 8:07 PM

Ditto for here in Pennsylvania, where we have the Lehigh Canal (short name - more correctly, the "Lehigh Navigation"), and the Delaware Canal, both of which were links/ feeders to the Raritan Canal; the Delaware Canal went on to Philadelphia as well.  See generally: http://www.delawareandlehigh.org/index.php 

One consolation is that most of the Lehigh Canal towpath / trail parallels the moderately-used present-day "Lehigh Line" of Norfolk Southern (and ConRail), and/ or other former (now abandoned) rail lines.  The Delaware Canal is on the opposite bank from the former Belvidere-Delaware branch of the PRR, of which only a few miles are still in operation (Black River & Western now).  At New Hope, PA, it passes within sight of the New Hope & Ivyland RR (former Reading RR branch), and further south at Bristol, PA it's close to the Amtrak NorthEast Corridor.

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Posted by John WR on Thursday, January 24, 2013 6:45 PM

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The pathways along this {Hennepin} canal are also a state park.

Hmmm.  With canals we preserve them for our children and grand children.  Here in New Jersey we once had the Delaware and Raritan Canal which carried coal from the Scranton area to New York.  That too is preserved as a state park.  We maintain canals at public expense and no one even whispers about it.  It is an interesting contrast to the way we treat passenger trains.  

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Posted by CShaveRR on Wednesday, January 23, 2013 9:11 PM

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The most notable canal, from a historic standpoint, is the Illinois & Michigan Canal. 

I understand the Illinois and Michigan Canal connected Chicago to the Mississippi River.  I imagine that was quite important at the time.  I also understand that Abe Lincoln voted for the canal when he was in the Illinois Legislature.  Lincoln was a Whig and he believed government should undertake internal improvements for the benefit of the people of the state. 

It connected the Illinois (River) and (Lake) Michigan (that was the theory, anyway).  The Illinois River eventually flows into the Mississippi River (via Peoria and Havana).


There also was (is) the Hennepin Canal, which formed a three-pronged route from the Illinois River (at its big bend, where it starts flowing south instead of west), and the Rock River (above Rock Falls, appropriately enough) to the Mississippi River south of Moline.  The pathways along this canal are also a state park.

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Posted by blownout cylinder on Wednesday, January 23, 2013 7:17 PM

CShaveRR

I don't know whether this will work, but over on Trainorders.com they have a nice down-on view or two of the construction I've been blathering about in the vicinity of Bellwood and Provo Junction:

http://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?1,2974051

Looks to be quite the site there.

Any argument carried far enough will end up in Semantics--Hartz's law of rhetoric Emerald. Leemer and Southern The route of the Sceptre Express Barry

I just started my blog site...more stuff to come...

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Posted by John WR on Wednesday, January 23, 2013 4:38 PM

CShaveRR
The most notable canal, from a historic standpoint, is the Illinois & Michigan Canal. 

I understand the Illinois and Michigan Canal connected Chicago to the Mississippi River.  I imagine that was quite important at the time.  I also understand that Abe Lincoln voted for the canal when he was in the Illinois Legislature.  Lincoln was a Whig and he believed government should undertake internal improvements for the benefit of the people of the state.  

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