One of the collision threads made me think of this: signs for the roads approaching a RR crossing showing the height and angle of approach of the hump that the RR tracks ahead are for large trucks and semis? UP has one crossing just south of where I live. The speed limit on this rural 2 lane blacktop road is 45 mph, but there are yellow "25 mph" signs on both sides of it almost next to the track. You can't go much faster than 25 over these tracks if you don't want anything in or out of your vehicle to go airborne. I have seen teenagers go across these tracks at over the limit speeds and catch some air. I really wish the county would re grade and raise the road to both sides of this crossing to make it safer and eliminate another place crazy 16 year olds could kill someone.
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Ask the local cfity/county engineer to post the crossing. If they ignore you, contact the railroad engineer at the PUC/RR Commission that has jurisdiction in your state. (who will get the attention of the local road bubbas)
Now these guys: http://www.dot.state.mn.us/aboutrail/ ; devolved from the Minnesota Railroad & Warehouse Commission.
Well its not only signage: Look at this low bridge that is getting hit an average of 12 times a year.
http://redbank.patch.com/articles/a-bridge-too-low.
Time for an advance tell-tail and a crash rail. At city/county expense. (They are subsidizing the truckers anyhow with taxpayer $$$$) ....
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blue streak 1 Well its not only signage: Look at this low bridge that is getting hit an average of 12 times a year. http://redbank.patch.com/articles/a-bridge-too-low.
I think, instead of being used for advertising, the space on the side of the bridge would serve the situation better by plastering it with photos of trucks that have hit the bridge, along with the words:
"How much will you pay to put a photo of your truck here?"
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Semper Vaporo blue streak 1: Well its not only signage: Look at this low bridge that is getting hit an average of 12 times a year. http://redbank.patch.com/articles/a-bridge-too-low. I think, instead of being used for advertising, the space on the side of the bridge would serve the situation better by plastering it with photos of trucks that have hit the bridge, along with the words: "How much will you pay to put a photo of your truck here?"
blue streak 1: Well its not only signage: Look at this low bridge that is getting hit an average of 12 times a year. http://redbank.patch.com/articles/a-bridge-too-low.
Not a bad idea! Back when I was in college we had a rash of bad accidents involving college kids. Nothing seemed to help until one day the adminstration put two wrecked cars out in front of the main compass. They were actually two cars that had been involved in a fatal accident...bodies had been removed of course...but the sight of those cars was enough to give people pause for thought...much more so than a "drive safely" sign would have done.
Sounds like that grade crossing could use some speed bumps before it to prevent teens ( or any other thrill seekers) from getting up to 45 before the crossing. I'm not sure how much it cost to install them but I'm sure it would be one of the more cost effective solutions.
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Suggestion for similar situations:
Hang a sign at the height of the lowest part of the bridge about a hundred feet before the bridge. Text on the sign should read: IF YOU HIT THIS SIGN YOU WILL HIT THAT BRIDGE Seems to work well in Griffin GA. The sign does get banged up.
ramrod Suggestion for similar situations: Hang a sign at the height of the lowest part of the bridge about a hundred feet before the bridge. Text on the sign should read: IF YOU HIT THIS SIGN YOU WILL HIT THAT BRIDGE Seems to work well in Griffin GA. The sign does get banged up.
Like these?
http://www.cisco-eagle.com/catalog/c-4178-low-clearance-warning-bars.aspx
http://www.industrysearch.com.au/Products/Height-Clearance-Bars-56334
Dave
Lackawanna Route of the Phoebe Snow
I think they are looking at a high-tech solution for the bridge in Syracuse that claimed a double-decker bus and several lives. I suspect it involves lasers and lots of flashing lights.
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tree68 I think they are looking at a high-tech solution for the bridge in Syracuse that claimed a double-decker bus and several lives. I suspect it involves lasers and lots of flashing lights.
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BaltACD tree68: I think they are looking at a high-tech solution for the bridge in Syracuse that claimed a double-decker bus and several lives. I suspect it involves lasers and lots of flashing lights. There is no cure for human stupidity - it has the ability to fool any foolproof system that the mind can devise.
tree68: I think they are looking at a high-tech solution for the bridge in Syracuse that claimed a double-decker bus and several lives. I suspect it involves lasers and lots of flashing lights.
"The problem with developing a foolproof system is that God keeps creating bigger fools." (Anon)
There was one low bridge across I 90 just west of Rapid City, SD, that had an infrared detector (emitter on one post, receiver on another) that would set off bright yellow flashers around a, "Take next exit, vehicle too high to clear bridge," sign. There were still several high trailers that got peeled like sardine cans while I lived there.
The railroad bridge across Murfreesboro Road in Nashville, TN, is clearly marked with the clearance - barely adequate for one class of trailer. The problem is, the clearance was measured right at the bottom of a dip...
Chuck
I think some peoples brains were not created with great spacial understanding.
Speaking of signs......... We were in Northern Michigan last week. At all the railroad crossings, CN I think, there were white, printed signs on the poles underneath each crossbuck. The signs said " Stop when red lights are flashing". I had never seen that before at a railroad crossing. Why wouldn't that be done at all crossings? That way bucyrus could sleep better at night,just knowing that folks knew what the flashing red lights actually meant.
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That's not a particularly new idea. Most protected grade crossings without gates that I've seen (and this goes back to least 1960) had a square sign below the lights that read "Stop On Red Signal" with reflectors in the letters (older) or reflectorized letters (newer).
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When I was a kid I once saw a crossing with flashers, and when the lights activated a yellow stop sign below the lights would turn 90 degrees to face traffic.
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