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Posted by schlimm on Monday, February 21, 2011 10:46 AM

In the recently locked thread on a grade crossing accident, Murray, one of the regulars around here, used it to advertise another rail forum, that seemed to be anti-railfan, as a recurring part of his signature.  I was under the impression we were to refrain from that sort of activity.  Is that true, or are we likely to start having promotions and advertising  as a regular feature?  And was his command to the moderators the reason the thread was locked?

 

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Kindly euthanize this thread now before this gaggle of  backroom lawyers posting here go in to a complete fit of apoplexy.

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Posted by coborn35 on Monday, February 21, 2011 11:21 AM

Why dont you stop playing Forum Police? Its getting really annoying really quick.

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, February 21, 2011 11:30 AM

schlimm

In the recently locked thread on a grade crossing accident, Murray, one of the regulars around here, used it to advertise another rail forum, that seemed to be anti-railfan, as a recurring part of his signature.  I was under the impression we were to refrain from that sort of activity.  Is that true, or are we likely to start having promotions and advertising  as a regular feature?  And was his command to the moderators the reason the thread was locked?

 

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Kindly euthanize this thread now before this gaggle of  backroom lawyers posting here go in to a complete fit of apoplexy.

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It is an old forum technique.  If you disagree with what is being said, but are unable to intellectually refute it, you make an insulting comment in order to spook the moderator into locking the thread. 

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Posted by zugmann on Monday, February 21, 2011 11:33 AM

If you are so worried, Schlimm, then why not PM a mod instead of trying to start something?  The mods won't bite.  I hear rumors that they are even real people...

  

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Posted by Convicted One on Monday, February 21, 2011 11:42 AM

Bucyrus

 

 

 

It is an old forum technique.  If you disagree with what is being said, but are unable to intellectually refute it, you make an insulting comment in order to spook the moderator into locking the thread. 

 

See, now HERE is one of those areas where you and I totally agree.Yes

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Posted by zugmann on Monday, February 21, 2011 11:44 AM

I am just chuckiling at Schlimm and Convicted One (of all people) complaining about getting a thread shut down. 

 

 

Pot?  Kettle.  Kettle?  Pot.

  

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Posted by Convicted One on Monday, February 21, 2011 11:45 AM

schlimm

In the recently locked thread on a grade crossing accident, Murray, one of the regulars around here, used it to advertise another rail forum, that seemed to be anti-railfan, as a recurring part of his signature.  I was under the impression we were to refrain from that sort of activity.  Is that true, or are we likely to start having promotions and advertising  as a regular feature?  And was his command to the moderators the reason the thread was locked?

 

Re: RE:This is Very Bad

Kindly euthanize this thread now before this gaggle of  backroom lawyers posting here go in to a complete fit of apoplexy.

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Not only do i agree with you 100%, but I support your effort to raise your concerns on this matter.YesThumbs Up

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Posted by zugmann on Monday, February 21, 2011 11:47 AM

You guys remind me of my 4 yr old niece tattling on her 7yr old sister....

 Sigh

 

Note: I do not support you 100%.  I may support you 3%, but that's because I'm feeling extra generous.    Actually, Convict, your picture in your signature is annoying to scroll past in every thread.

 

See?  I get to tattle too!!!  YAAAAAY!

  

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Posted by coborn35 on Monday, February 21, 2011 11:51 AM

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Posted by Convicted One on Monday, February 21, 2011 11:52 AM

zugmann

 

 

 

Pot?  Kettle.  Kettle?  Pot.

 

talk about irony.

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Posted by zugmann on Monday, February 21, 2011 11:54 AM

Convicted One

 

 

 

 

talk about irony.

 

Knew you couldn't resist.... I still think you're A #1, Convict!!!!  I don't care what anyone else says!

  

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Posted by Convicted One on Monday, February 21, 2011 11:54 AM

zugmann

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See?  I get to tattle too!!!  YAAAAAY!

 

knock me over with a feather. Laugh

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Posted by zugmann on Monday, February 21, 2011 11:55 AM

Convicted One

 

 

 

 

knock me over with a feather. Laugh

 

Sounds kinky.

 

I think I can hear the moderators rolling their eyes from here...

  

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Posted by Convicted One on Monday, February 21, 2011 12:08 PM

zugmann

I am just chuckiling at Schlimm and Convicted One (of all people) complaining about getting a thread shut down. 

 

 

I think that you'd be very hard pressed to find any attempt on my part to have a thread shut down. But, if someone else wants to complain when they could  just  as easily go on to read some other topic, then they themselves better have clean hands.

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Posted by zugmann on Monday, February 21, 2011 12:13 PM

Convicted One

 

 

 

 

I think that you'd be very hard pressed to find any attempt on my part to have a thread shut down. But, if someone else wants to complain when they could  just  as easily go on to read some other topic, then they themselves better have clean hands.

You guys are good at the little jabs and subtle insults.  Don't pretend you aren't, you should be proud of the fact.

 

I do agree on your last part, though.  I never am a fan of having threads shut down.

  

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, February 21, 2011 12:45 PM

Well, since Schlimm chose to start this drama, My signature has been removed.

I will forward this matter regarding Schlimm et al to the moderators for thier further action.

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Posted by schlimm on Monday, February 21, 2011 12:50 PM

zug, et al.:  I only asked two questions.  One, I don't know why that thread was locked, it certainly was not offensive, and obviously very popular, one of the most viewed and posted to in a long time: 237 posts and almost 3000 views in only six days.  So why should I confine the question to a PM to a moderator?   It seems to me that anyone in the group should be able to contribute,  pro and con, as long as the personal insults are kept to a minimum, which they were.   How is that tattling?

The other point was a question about advertising links here, and particularly a link to a site that is very ant-railfan.  If Murray wants to have or belong to a site whose theme is hatred of railfans, fine, but why should that or any other outside site be included in his "signature?"  You nay not like the sigs of Convicted One or others, but he isn't advertising another website in his.

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, February 21, 2011 12:51 PM

Murray,

I think you are the one who started the drama with your snarky comments last night on the locked thread.  Ironic that you should complain about off-topic threads. 

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, February 21, 2011 12:54 PM

Bucyrus

Murray,

I think you are the one who started the drama with your snarky comments last night on the locked thread.  Ironic that you should complain about off-topic threads. 

Excuse me....had no idea that Bucyrus, Schlimm, Convicted one et al ran this forum.

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, February 21, 2011 12:55 PM

This matter has been duly handled over to the moderators for their action.

Anyone else wanna step up and take a swipe at me????

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Posted by zugmann on Monday, February 21, 2011 12:56 PM

If you really wanted to know why the thread was locked - then ask a moderator.  Best way for that would be to PM them.  But then you would get an answer without the spotlight.  Trains.com is pretty good, but they do seem to lock threads after they start deleting posts and the horse gets beaten for the 6th time with the same argument. 

 

The tattling was in reference to your complaint about Murray's signature.  Again, an issue to take up with a moderator.  What good is it to involve the whole board?  Both of your issues had NOTHING to do with the subject of the forum.  They were purely administrative issues.

  

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Posted by zugmann on Monday, February 21, 2011 1:00 PM

Bucyrus

Murray,

I think you are the one who started the drama with your snarky comments last night on the locked thread.  Ironic that you should complain about off-topic threads. 

 

The main players on this thread are the ones that master the snarky comments.  Again... pot, kettle, kettle, pot.

 

And who among us has NEVER made an off-topic post?  Anyone with their hand up is a darned liar.

  

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, February 21, 2011 1:05 PM

zugmann

If you really wanted to know why the thread was locked - then ask a moderator.  Best way for that would be to PM them.  But then you would get an answer without the spotlight.  Trains.com is pretty good, but they do seem to lock threads after they start deleting posts and the horse gets beaten for the 6th time with the same argument. 

 

The tattling was in reference to your complaint about Murray's signature.  Again, an issue to take up with a moderator.  What good is it to involve the whole board?  Both of your issues had NOTHING to do with the subject of the forum.  They were purely administration issues.

You know I can post...and I can joke around...but when someone attacks me in such a vile and malicious manner as Schlimm and now Bucyrus has done...this is untolerable.

I  rendered an opinion.  I AM ENTITlED TO MY OPINION.  Just like Schlimm, Bucyrus, Convicted One or ANYONE ELSE.

But you have absolutely no right whatsoever to attack me and accuse me for something that I was not responsible for.

I do not control the moderation here,  no more than anyone else.  How dare you Schlimm, Bucyrus et al to accuse me of that.

This has been duly passed to the moderators for their action.

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Posted by schlimm on Monday, February 21, 2011 1:09 PM

Contrary to Murray's comment about Bucyrus, CV and I running the forum, I brought up his including a link to an outside forum in his signature as a question that might concern all of us and not just using a PM to the moderator.  That would be "tattling."  What I attempted to do is raise two questions for all (including Murray) who have interest provide input on.  That is not running the forum.  It is hoping all participants can do just that - participate in a discussion of how these forums are run - not just leave it all to our moderators.  And i fail to see how anyone made a vile accusation of Murray.  i asked a question if his command was why the thread was locked.  Maybe it was, maybe not.  Are questions and seeking answers no longer to be tolerated?

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Posted by coborn35 on Monday, February 21, 2011 1:15 PM

Why would a link to a chatroom concern us? I have every reason in the world to hate and despise foamers (different from railfans), so dont say that my doing so is a concern for everyone here. That link does not go somewhere where there is a strong hatred of railfans.But you wouldn't know that, obviously.

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, February 21, 2011 1:15 PM

schlimm

Contrary to Murray's comment about Bucyrus, CV and I running the forum, I brought up his including a link to an outside forum in his signature as a question that might concern all of us and not just using a PM to the moderator.  That would be "tattling."  What I attempted to do is raise two questions for all (including Murray) to have interest provide input on.  That is not running the forum.  It is hoping all participants can do just that - participate in a discussion of how these forums are run - not just leave it all to our moderators.

 

You are just incapable of reading anything.  no where did I write that you ran the forum. 

I stated that I have the right to my opinion...and I did just that.  But I exercise no control over what a moderator does or does not do.

Schlimm, you are hardly in a position to state how discussion should take place...especially when you have committed one of the worst ad hominem attack I have seen on a forum to date.

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, February 21, 2011 1:18 PM

Murray

 schlimm:

Contrary to Murray's comment about Bucyrus, CV and I running the forum, I brought up his including a link to an outside forum in his signature as a question that might concern all of us and not just using a PM to the moderator.  That would be "tattling."  What I attempted to do is raise two questions for all (including Murray) to have interest provide input on.  That is not running the forum.  It is hoping all participants can do just that - participate in a discussion of how these forums are run - not just leave it all to our moderators.

 

 

You are just incapable of reading anything.  no where did I write that you ran the forum. 

I stated that I have the right to my opinion...and I did just that.  But I exercise no control over what a moderator does or does not do.

Schlimm, you are hardly in a position to state how discussion should take place...especially when you have committed one of the worst ad hominem attack I have seen on a forum to date.

Murray

 schlimm:

Contrary to Murray's comment about Bucyrus, CV and I running the forum, I brought up his including a link to an outside forum in his signature as a question that might concern all of us and not just using a PM to the moderator.  That would be "tattling."  What I attempted to do is raise two questions for all (including Murray) to have interest provide input on.  That is not running the forum.  It is hoping all participants can do just that - participate in a discussion of how these forums are run - not just leave it all to our moderators.

 

 

You are just incapable of reading anything.  no where did I write that you ran the forum. 

I stated that I have the right to my opinion...and I did just that.  But I exercise no control over what a moderator does or does not do.

Schlimm, you are hardly in a position to state how discussion should take place...especially when you have committed one of the worst ad hominem attack I have seen on a forum to date.

 

I beg your pardon Schlimm...I did in fact say that you Bucurus and Conviocted on ran the forum.

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Posted by RRKen on Monday, February 21, 2011 1:18 PM

schlimm

In the recently locked thread on a grade crossing accident, Murray, one of the regulars around here, used it to advertise another rail forum, that seemed to be anti-railfan, as a recurring part of his signature.  I was under the impression we were to refrain from that sort of activity.  Is that true, or are we likely to start having promotions and advertising  as a regular feature?  And was his command to the moderators the reason the thread was locked?

 

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Kindly euthanize this thread now before this gaggle of  backroom lawyers posting here go in to a complete fit of apoplexy.

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As far as I recall, he has used that sig line in a lot of different places.  Going out in public to complain about a sig line  Perfesser, is a bit gauche.  Try a PM to the Moderators if you really need to comment at all.

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Posted by zugmann on Monday, February 21, 2011 1:18 PM

I still fail to see how a link in a signature concerns us all...?

I sometimes use random quotes in my signature.  I guess we should start a post to see if that is OK.  Maybe we need a forum town hall meeting.  Or a forum sweat lodge... boy, that's a bad mental image...

PS. What I find funny is that the same people complaining about the anti-foamer site are the first ones that pile onto any thread that discusses where a railroad might be at fault for something.  Things that make you go hmmmm...

  

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, February 21, 2011 1:19 PM

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How in the hell would his link concern us? That place is not anti-railfan, but you went and told mommy before you could figure that out, didn't you.

Thank you for your support Max.

I went ahead and removed my signature since it upset Schlimm so terribly much.

Max, stop in at the chat anytime.

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