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Posted by samfp1943 on Sunday, May 9, 2010 3:33 PM

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Well I gave someone this problem and was not able to get answers . This comes from the town I now live.

1. Pronounce  "Greenough St.

2. Now the hard one -- manhole.   First one to get this will get a chauffeured railfan trip around Atlanta. 48 Hrs starts now.

Let me take a shot at #1 gree no (?)       & #2  man' ole  (?)  Try  North Mississippi  > Nor  miss' sippi     Banged Head    

SoapBox And while I'm think about it  New Madrid, Missouri  >  NEW MAD rid, Miz' ery   

 Sign - Off Topic!! Driving across Mo. was always a choreAlien, cause the cops Piratewere always in a state of Miz' reyEight Ball.   That would give me a headache to enjoy in the state of IL' A NOISE!Blindfold  Mischief made you look forward to peace in In' di' yanaSigh, so you could rest in O Hi yoZzz, so you could run across Pencil vain yaBlack Eye, and race across Jersi Wow!!into Da CITY! Sign - Dots        Sign - Oops

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Posted by YoHo1975 on Sunday, May 9, 2010 12:54 PM

 Growing up in Chicago it was always Misery, but that wasn't so much an accent thing as a We're better than Missouri thing. Wink

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Posted by WSOR 3801 on Saturday, May 8, 2010 9:16 PM

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While we're on the subject or off topic, can anybody explain "Missour-ee" versus "Missour-uh" which has puzzled me since my ill-spent youth? As I recalled, it changed diagonally from North-East (Hannibal) to South-West (Springfield), though now, I can't remember which way it changed across the state.

 

My mom and stepdad moved there (Sedalia area).  They pronounce it "Misery".  Shock

The older relatives we had down in that state always said "Missour-uh".

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Saturday, May 8, 2010 7:53 PM

Well I gave someone this problem and was not able to get answers . This comes from the town I now live.

1. Pronounce  "Greenough St.

2. Now the hard one -- manhole.   First one to get this will get a chauffeured railfan trip around Atlanta. 48 Hrs starts now.

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Posted by ChuckCobleigh on Saturday, May 8, 2010 6:58 PM

While we're on the subject or off topic, can anybody explain "Missour-ee" versus "Missour-uh" which has puzzled me since my ill-spent youth? As I recalled, it changed diagonally from North-East (Hannibal) to South-West (Springfield), though now, I can't remember which way it changed across the state.

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Posted by Deggesty on Saturday, May 8, 2010 6:38 PM

There is also Louisville (Lewisville), Mississippi. You may be familiar with the question, "How do you pronounce the name of the capital of Kentucky?" The answer, of course is not either "Louieville" or "Lewisville," but "Frankfort."

 Columbia, S. C., is definitely below the Fall Line; Great Falls, on the Catawba (which becomes the Wateree), is on the Fall Line. Incidentally, Great Falls was one of the places considered for the location of the U. S. Military Academy. 

A while back, on another thread, I more or less invited contributors to attempt to pronouce "Horry" correctly. I was told when I was between the sixth and seventh grades, by a resident of the county, that it is "OH REE."

Another error--some people think that the Mississippi Delta is in Louisiana, not knowing that it is in Mississippi. The Delta of the Mississippi is in Louisiana.

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Posted by BNSFwatcher on Saturday, May 8, 2010 5:52 PM

When writing Warren Buffett's name, don't forget to cross both "t"s.  Here, in Montana, we have some problems with the DSs in Fort Worth, especially the really "southern" or Cajun ones.  It is hard to get them to pronounce some locations, like Devon (DEE-vaughn) or Kevin (KEE-vin), but they come around.  Devon being a breed of cattle and a town in England doesn't help.  In the north country of New York, Madrid (MAH-drid), and Chaumont were two of the toughies, along with Lowville (home of the world's best cheddar cheese!).  Google Lowville.  People are adaptable, though.  Don't even want to think about Québec, NewfoundLAND, Maine, or New Brunswick.

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Posted by dmoore74 on Saturday, May 8, 2010 4:33 PM

Then of course there was the Lima (lie-ma) Locomotive Works in Lima, Ohio.  Wonder if they ever shipped any locomotives to Lima (lee-ma), Peru?

Sault Ste. Marie is also one that can throw a few people.

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Posted by The Butler on Saturday, May 8, 2010 3:06 PM

So, with centralized dispatching and all the regionalized dialects, can/does this cause crews and dispatchers to fail to understand each other?

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Posted by The Butler on Saturday, May 8, 2010 2:50 PM

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The "soda" vs. "pop" is taken a step farther where I live.  Here it is so-da vs. so-dee.

I am, also, amused by "you" vs. "yous" vs. "y'all."

Reading over what I just wrote, is it far-ther or fur-ther?

 

 

I hope all y'all(The plural of Y'all which is singular)  have a great National Train Day.

 

There's a town in Colorado between Denver and Boulder called Louisville that is pronounced like Lewis ville.

Which blows my mind, because Louis is so clearly french. 

 Big Smile YoHo, I knew it was singular, but thanks for pointing that out.  I am not sure everyone knew that.  Maybe, you can explain "you'ins." Confused It sounds like yuns or yins.  I have heard it a few times. 

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Posted by lonewoof on Saturday, May 8, 2010 2:33 PM

 I have to disagree with 'Degessty'; Columbia, SC is DEFINITELY NOT Lowcountry! Lowcountry stops around Orangeburg. Columbia is kind of an accent all it's own. Probably the influence of the university.

And, yes, we DO need to 're-educate' all those TV broadcasters that are fresh out of j-school: they can't handle Gervais (GER-vay) or Huger (U-gee) (don't even get me started on Dessasaure), or the state tree (it's PAL-metto, not PALM-etto), and the state flower is Yellow JESSAMINE, not jasmine!

And it's LANCaster, and GREENvul.

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Posted by YoHo1975 on Saturday, May 8, 2010 1:59 PM

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The "soda" vs. "pop" is taken a step farther where I live.  Here it is so-da vs. so-dee.

I am, also, amused by "you" vs. "yous" vs. "y'all."

Reading over what I just wrote, is it far-ther or fur-ther?

 

 

I hope all y'all(The plural of Y'all which is singular)  have a great National Train Day.

 

There's a town in Colorado between Denver and Boulder called Louisville that is pronounced like Lewis ville.

Which blows my mind, because Louis is so clearly french. 

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Posted by Deggesty on Saturday, May 8, 2010 12:43 PM

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Another thing that has bugged this old geezer for a number of years- when I was a kid our meal times were referred to as breakfast, dinner, and SUPPER. Now all the young folk say breakfast, lunch, and dinner. I always thought lunch was something you ate, such as vienna sausage and soda crackers or a baloney sandwich, while sitting on the tailgate of a pick-up truck taking a break from some laborious task. And which is correct- balogna or baloney?  How do y'all pronounce vienna? And what do you wash it down with- pop, soda, soft drink, or something a little stronger?

I grew up (in Upcountry S. C.) with breakfast, dinner, and supper (we did have hot lunch at school). If you refer to the origin of the groundup and pressed together meat, it is Bologna, in Italy (which may be pronounced "Bolona"); I always heard  "baloney." At home, we said "Vee enna," but I also heard "Vi enna," and there is a community in Alabama that goes that way.

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Posted by tree68 on Saturday, May 8, 2010 12:01 PM

baberuth73
Another thing that has bugged this old geezer for a number of years- when I was a kid our meal times were referred to as breakfast, dinner, and SUPPER.

To me, the "everyday" mid-day meal was (and is) lunch.  As you say, sandwich, maybe some chips, and a cookie or some fruit to wrap it up.  Today it was leftover chili and cornbread.

Dinner, on the other hand, is a meal.  On Saturday we had "lunch".   On Sunday, we had dinner - meat, mashed potatoes, veggie, pie for dessert, you get my drift.  Dinner was usually a little later, too - early afternoon as opposed to noon for lunch.

I seem to recall that the evening meal was always "supper" for my family (except on Sunday, when it was more of a snack), although it often carried the same trappings as Sunday Dinner. 

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How do y'all pronounce vienna?

Generally "Vee-EN-na," although the town by that name in central NY is known as "Vie-EN-na."

Kinda like Versailles, KY.  While the French version is "Vare-sigh," in KY, it's "Ver-Sales."

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Posted by BNSFwatcher on Saturday, May 8, 2010 11:22 AM

I was raised in Westchester County ("upstate"). We would travel to "town", or "the city", meaning Manhattan only on NYC's Harlem Div., or the NYNH&H.  No one went to the other boroughs!  I went to college in Canton, NY (NYC's St. Lawrence Div.).  That was called "The North Country", for good reason!  Back in Westchester, we had problems.  Was a sandwich, on Italian bread, a "Hero", "Sub(marine)", "Hoagie", "Grinder", or whatever?  "Pop" and "Soda" were synonimous.  "Tonic"?  No way, unless it had gin in it!  Yar!  I got my North Carolina accent beat out of me in 1942, when we moved to NY.  I can still pick up my NJ (DL&W), NC (SOU), NS (CNR), NY, VT (CVR - with a bit of Français), accents in about ten minutes of being back in the environment!  Cool!  Never could do Brooklyn, but my Bronx is passable.  MA?:  now way!  ME?  A'yup!  Nort' Dakota?:  I'm working on it.  "Yooper" of MI:  same as ON.  No problem.  TX:  can do.  Fun!

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Posted by baberuth73 on Saturday, May 8, 2010 10:59 AM

Another thing that has bugged this old geezer for a number of years- when I was a kid our meal times were referred to as breakfast, dinner, and SUPPER. Now all the young folk say breakfast, lunch, and dinner. I always thought lunch was something you ate, such as vienna sausage and soda crackers or a baloney sandwich, while sitting on the tailgate of a pick-up truck taking a break from some laborious task. And which is correct- balogna or baloney?  How do y'all pronounce vienna? And what do you wash it down with- pop, soda, soft drink, or something a little stronger?

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Saturday, May 8, 2010 9:19 AM

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I recall reading years ago about a fellow who had been challenged about the fact that most of us from the US only speak one language, while many Europeans are fluent in several.  The fellow replied something to the effect that his Georga was excellent, his Brooklyn wasn't too bad, his "Valley" (California) was good enough to get by, and his Texas was actually pretty good.

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Posted by tree68 on Saturday, May 8, 2010 8:11 AM

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I would think that someone from the Beautiful State of Washington, would want to make certain, and crystal clear, they were NOT from Washington, D.C. 

We in NY state have the same problem with the "city."  Say you're from New York and people automatically think you mean New York City.  Most of us add "northern" or "upstate" to that, although to the city dwellers, upstate means Westchester County.  I'll often also point out that I'm about 10 miles from the Canadian border, which really flumoxes people, as they apparently don't realize that NY borders Canada.

There used to be an active ferry at Toad Suck - as late as the 1970's, anyhow.  Been there, although we didn't ride it.

That "tonic" thing runs right up through Maine, as I found out when visiting the ex's family some years ago.

I know "pop" is at least a midwestern thing - Faygo even sells a drink called "Red Pop."  It's a strawberry concoction, IIRC.  Not bad, but sweet!

I recall reading years ago about a fellow who had been challenged about the fact that most of us from the US only speak one language, while many Europeans are fluent in several.  The fellow replied something to the effect that his Georga was excellent, his Brooklyn wasn't too bad, his "Valley" (California) was good enough to get by, and his Texas was actually pretty good.

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Posted by dmoore74 on Saturday, May 8, 2010 6:41 AM

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A few years ago I heard a late-night radio show - maybe Jim Bohannon ? - when he had on a linguist from a major northeastern university - I forget which one. Anyway, he said that by listening to a person pronounce a few key words, or name what they were being shown in a picture - "crick" vs. "creek", "soda" vs. "pop", etc. - he could figure out where someone was from to within 25 to 50 miles or so on the East Coast and built-up areas east of the Mississippi, and within 100 miles or so in the western US. Of course, us itinerant Americans wandering and moving around every couple of years and hybridizing and mongrelizing the accents and inflections and idioms, etc. would make that more difficult, I suppose. - Paul North.

The "soda" vs. "pop" is taken a step farther where I live.  Here it is so-da vs. so-dee.

I am, also, amused by "you" vs. "yous" vs. "y'all."

Reading over what I just wrote, is it far-ther or fur-ther?

Of course you can be in the metropolitan Boston area where "soda" becomes "tonic".

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Posted by The Butler on Saturday, May 8, 2010 12:41 AM

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A few years ago I heard a late-night radio show - maybe Jim Bohannon ? - when he had on a linguist from a major northeastern university - I forget which one. Anyway, he said that by listening to a person pronounce a few key words, or name what they were being shown in a picture - "crick" vs. "creek", "soda" vs. "pop", etc. - he could figure out where someone was from to within 25 to 50 miles or so on the East Coast and built-up areas east of the Mississippi, and within 100 miles or so in the western US. Of course, us itinerant Americans wandering and moving around every couple of years and hybridizing and mongrelizing the accents and inflections and idioms, etc. would make that more difficult, I suppose. - Paul North.

The "soda" vs. "pop" is taken a step farther where I live.  Here it is so-da vs. so-dee.

I am, also, amused by "you" vs. "yous" vs. "y'all."

Reading over what I just wrote, is it far-ther or fur-ther?

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Posted by spokyone on Friday, May 7, 2010 10:47 PM

 In Conway Arkansas, on the Arkansas River, is Toad Suc Park. A local told me it was a French derivation of Sugar Shack. Another local told me that river captains would go to a bar and suck on a bottle until they swelled up like toads. They have a Toad Suck festival every year.

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Posted by Paul_D_North_Jr on Friday, May 7, 2010 7:56 PM
A few years ago I heard a late-night radio show - maybe Jim Bohannon ? - when he had on a linguist from a major northeastern university - I forget which one. Anyway, he said that by listening to a person pronounce a few key words, or name what they were being shown in a picture - "crick" vs. "creek", "soda" vs. "pop", etc. - he could figure out where someone was from to within 25 to 50 miles or so on the East Coast and built-up areas east of the Mississippi, and within 100 miles or so in the western US. Of course, us itinerant Americans wandering and moving around every couple of years and hybridizing and mongrelizing the accents and inflections and idioms, etc. would make that more difficult, I suppose. - Paul North.
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Posted by Murphy Siding on Friday, May 7, 2010 6:05 PM

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I believe in my distant past I heard someone, a middle-aged American male, say "Warshingten."  Was I hearing things, or if it is a pronunciation common to a population somewhere in the USA, from where was this person?

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Posted by samfp1943 on Friday, May 7, 2010 6:03 PM

selector

I believe in my distant past I heard someone, a middle-aged American male, say "Warshingten."  Was I hearing things, or if it is a pronunciation common to a population somewhere in the USA, from where was this person?

-Crandell

  Might have been the Midwest!Sigh  Maybe, Kansas?BlindfoldSign - Oops

 

 


 

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Posted by samfp1943 on Friday, May 7, 2010 6:00 PM

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It ain't gone no where  Big Smile  we say Or-e-gen  and also, Washington is Washington, they know it is a state so you dont have to say Washington State...

I would think that someone from the Beautiful State of WashingtonCowboy, would want to make certain,

 and crystal clear, they were NOT from Washington, D.C.  [2c]

Possibly, Eleanor Roosevelt is still foggy?

 

 


 

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Posted by selector on Friday, May 7, 2010 5:52 PM

I believe in my distant past I heard someone, a middle-aged American male, say "Warshingten."  Was I hearing things, or if it is a pronunciation common to a population somewhere in the USA, from where was this person?

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Posted by Eric97123 on Friday, May 7, 2010 5:41 PM

It ain't gone no where  Big Smile  we say Or-e-gen  and also, Washington is Washington, they know it is a state so you dont have to say Washington State...

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Friday, May 7, 2010 5:31 PM

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     Just curious, is it pronounced Ore-eh-gon, or ORE-gone?  I've met people from there who were agast that we would say Ore-eh-gon.

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Posted by YoHo1975 on Friday, May 7, 2010 5:23 PM
I grew up in River Forest Il. A near west suburb of Chicago. I moved first to Beaverton Or, Then to Carlsbad Ca, Now back in Beaverton. About a week into my job down in Carlsbad, the guy in the office next to mine stopped in and said. I bet you're from the Chicago Suburbs. (I nodded yes) West side? Maybe LaGrange?

After I picked my mouth up from the floor I said. " River Forest a bit east of LaGrange, how could you tell?" "Oh, my wife's from Downer's Grove, I recognized the accent."

Now, I know there's a midwest accent, and I know there's a Chicago Southside accent and I'll even buy into a more generic Chicago accent, but I had no friggin idea that there was such a thing as a west side Chicago suburban accent. And I have no idea what specifically my accent is. Although I do know that a mark of my Midwesterness is that I call Interstates and grade seperated Highways expressways instead of freeways.

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Posted by Eric97123 on Friday, May 7, 2010 4:26 PM

Deggesty
As to different southern accents, I have noticed a great difference as to what is spoken in Charlotte, N. C., and in Baton Rouge, and what is spoken in Reform, Ala., and Columbus, Miss. (30 miles apart).

 

I grew up in Georgia and now live in Oregon and when I hear a someone with a southern accent  I can almost always get what state they are from.  And even going back to visit family in Georgia I can hear the accent when growing up I would have said they did not have not one.

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