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The Official Eleanor Roosevelt (And Anything Else Non-Topical) Thread

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Posted by Victrola1 on Wednesday, January 25, 2012 8:28 AM

The television ads touted the diesel Studebaker's economy. 50 years ago, diesel sold for less than gasoline. Cab fleets were reportedly the main buyers. Alas, poor Studebaker.

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, January 24, 2012 2:24 PM

Victrola1

Would a stock Studebaker Lark with a Perkins diesel be Tier II complaint?

Now that would be cool to drive as well!!!!

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, January 24, 2012 2:22 PM

Bruce.... a nice '49 DeSoto with Fluid-Drive.

That could be cool!!!!!

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Posted by Victrola1 on Tuesday, January 24, 2012 2:07 PM

Would a stock Studebaker Lark with a Perkins diesel be Tier II complaint?

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Posted by AgentKid on Tuesday, January 24, 2012 1:52 PM

Murray, through the miracle of DVR, where you can watch a program as it is being recorded, I was able to view all forty hours of the Barrett-Jackson Auction on Speed TV last week, and weekend. I would start to watch several hours after the program began and was able to then fast forward through the commercials. The repetition of those commercials would have driven me away from the TV.

Interestingly, I liked the first three days better than the later ones. It is not that the prices were so high on the weekend, but that my tastes run to vehicles that aren't as sought after by major collectors. At some point the cars I like may become more valuable with age, but right now they are still a bit too common to be really collectable.

It sure would be cool though to win the lottery and scoop up all of the 1946-60 GM and Chrysler cars and trucks.

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, January 24, 2012 1:33 PM
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, January 24, 2012 1:32 PM
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Posted by Modelcar on Friday, January 20, 2012 8:16 PM

Murray

Here's a Goodyear tire test for you Quentin....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=vwKMBzJTpmM

 

Nylon tires.....Very strong, but boy they "flat-spotted", badly, if the vehicle was parked any amount of time until they "warmed up".

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, January 20, 2012 6:03 PM

Here's a Goodyear tire test for you Quentin....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=vwKMBzJTpmM

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, January 20, 2012 5:26 PM

And of course...who can't remember when studded tires were first introduced:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=zD_wVF1sato

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, January 20, 2012 5:22 PM

I found a Firestone snow tire commercial:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPPG3USPny0

 

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, January 20, 2012 2:10 PM
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, January 20, 2012 2:09 PM

Goodyear snow tire commercial circa 1963:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2krB1RyLFU

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Posted by zugmann on Friday, January 13, 2012 9:58 PM

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Yup.  The isolated cabs which first made an appearance on Conrail's SD60M 5044 were branded "Whisper cabs".  The were designed to keep the cab noise below 80dB.  85dB was the FRA limit for cab noise, but the OSHA std was 80dB, which is also the level below which prolonged exposure to noise won't cause permanent hearing loss.  

 

 They really were quiet.  The crews complained they could hardly hear the horn.

Conrail got them on the balance of their SD60Ms (calling them SD60Is, the "I" for "isolated") and on the subsequent SD80MACs.

 

I like those engines.  They are quiet.. and fun to go through a 40mph crossover in.

It's been fun.  But it isn't much fun anymore.   Signing off for now. 


  

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Posted by oltmannd on Friday, January 13, 2012 11:46 AM

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Mid to late 60's Fords marketed their "smooth quiet ride." That they had until a couple score thousand miles loosened things up. The front end was pure mush. You never really felt the road. You aimed with the steering wheel.

How that era's Fords ride compared with the Packards Eleanor Roosevelt rode in I can not say.

Has any locomotive manufacturer marketed their product for its smooth quiet ride?

 

Old Ford Commercial.  1965 is when they started pushing "quiet"

 http://youtu.be/r18YRP-jWAY

 

 

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Posted by oltmannd on Friday, January 13, 2012 11:41 AM

Murray

 

 zugmann:
Didn't EMD market a Whisper cab, or something?

 

Come to think of it I do remember reading something about the Whisper Cab....

 

Yup.  The isolated cabs which first made an appearance on Conrail's SD60M 5044 were branded "Whisper cabs".  The were designed to keep the cab noise below 80dB.  85dB was the FRA limit for cab noise, but the OSHA std was 80dB, which is also the level below which prolonged exposure to noise won't cause permanent hearing loss.  

 They really were quiet.  The crews complained they could hardly hear the horn.

Conrail got them on the balance of their SD60Ms (calling them SD60Is, the "I" for "isolated") and on the subsequent SD80MACs.

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Posted by Victrola1 on Friday, January 13, 2012 7:35 AM

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Anyone remember the "Saturday Night Live" spoof of that Lincoln diamond cutter ad?  If you do you're probably laughing as I am with the remembering.  If you don't, well, I won't go into the ugly details.  This is a family-oriented site after all!

A surgical procedure one would not wish to undergo in a locomotive at speed on rough track as I recall.

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Posted by Firelock76 on Thursday, January 12, 2012 8:59 PM

Anyone remember the "Saturday Night Live" spoof of that Lincoln diamond cutter ad?  If you do you're probably laughing as I am with the remembering.  If you don't, well, I won't go into the ugly details.  This is a family-oriented site after all!

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Posted by Victrola1 on Thursday, January 12, 2012 2:38 PM

Ford ran a television ad in the 1970's touting the smoothness of a Lincoln's ride. A master diamond cutter in the back seat proceeded to cleave a large stone while traveling over a rough stretch of road.

Is there a locomotive's cab that could provide the same stability at speed over a rough stretch of track?

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, January 12, 2012 12:03 PM

From the SD70 Series:

http://www.american-rails.com/sd70.html

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, January 12, 2012 12:01 PM

Here's something on the Canadian "Comfort Cab":

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_comfort_cab

 

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, January 12, 2012 11:52 AM

zugmann
Didn't EMD market a Whisper cab, or something?

Come to think of it I do remember reading something about the Whisper Cab....

 

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Posted by zugmann on Thursday, January 12, 2012 6:17 AM

Murray

 

 Victrola1:
Has any locomotive manufacturer marketed their product for its smooth quiet ride?

 

Can't speak for a locomotive manufacturer, but New York Central had its standard slogan for many years:  "The Water Level Route...You Can Sleep"

And C&O had "Chessie" the sleeping kitty.

Anybody have any others?

 

 

Didn't EMD market a Whisper cab, or something?

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, January 11, 2012 2:46 PM

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Has any locomotive manufacturer marketed their product for its smooth quiet ride?

Can't speak for a locomotive manufacturer, but New York Central had its standard slogan for many years:  "The Water Level Route...You Can Sleep"

And C&O had "Chessie" the sleeping kitty.

Anybody have any others?

 

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Posted by Victrola1 on Wednesday, January 11, 2012 9:42 AM

Mid to late 60's Fords marketed their "smooth quiet ride." That they had until a couple score thousand miles loosened things up. The front end was pure mush. You never really felt the road. You aimed with the steering wheel.

How that era's Fords ride compared with the Packards Eleanor Roosevelt rode in I can not say.

Has any locomotive manufacturer marketed their product for its smooth quiet ride?

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, January 8, 2012 2:25 PM

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Ford may have some work to do in their sales area though. One fellow they dealt with at one dealership seemed remarkably incompetent. That won't help any company in this economy.

I know what  you mean Bruce.  We have seven (or so) Jeep dealers here in the San Antonio area, and I wouldn't give a nickel for any of them.

Now the dealer that I bought my '09 Kia from was very good,  I'd certanly buy from them again.

 

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Posted by AgentKid on Sunday, January 8, 2012 12:23 PM

Murray, my sister just added the third Ford to their collection about two months ago. A 2011 Fusion AWD. Based on their experience so far it seems to be a great car. Based on only two round trips to her place it seems like a good vehicle to me. They also have an Explorer, and a Ranger for his work.

Ford may have some work to do in their sales area though. One fellow they dealt with at one dealership seemed remarkably incompetent. That won't help any company in this economy.

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, January 8, 2012 11:49 AM

Bruce, I also read on the CBC site that Ford is now the #1 car brand sold in Canada.

 

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, January 8, 2012 11:48 AM

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Interesting tidbit about those 1960 Fords. The company was in the worst financial shape of any of the Detroit Three in relative terms, until the recent financial meltdown. There was no govt money then, and if they had gone down they would have stayed down. It was down to a day to day struggle to make both wages and supplier invoices. The company was badly wounded until the 1965 model, with it's claims that it was quieter than a Rolls Royce. Remember the first Mustangs(1964½) and Econolines(1961)(a cab over Falcon, they had learned the lesson of the VW Microbus, a cab over Beetle) were built with parts from the Falcon parts bins.

Bruce

 

I had a '64 Galaxie 500 with a 390 cu in V8.  Talk about a quiet car!  You never really heard her unless you really punched her...and even then is was solidly quiet.

At idle you'd think you had stalled.  But she was still going.

I miss that car!

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Posted by AgentKid on Saturday, January 7, 2012 10:46 PM

Interesting tidbit about those 1960 Fords. The company was in the worst financial shape of any of the Detroit Three in relative terms, until the recent financial meltdown. There was no govt money then, and if they had gone down they would have stayed down. It was down to a day to day struggle to make both wages and supplier invoices. The company was badly wounded until the 1965 model, with it's claims that it was quieter than a Rolls Royce. Remember the first Mustangs(1964½) and Econolines(1961)(a cab over Falcon, they had learned the lesson of the VW Microbus, a cab over Beetle) were built with parts from the Falcon parts bins.

Bruce

 

So shovel the coal, let this rattler roll.

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