Possible explosive device found near railroad tracks

[Anonymous]

CNW 6000

Interesting posts Tom & Paul.  About the only 2 worth reading on this thread. 

Oh come on Dan, your opining is a little harsh...The thread is not that bad.  Besides, it was misinformation and incorrect assumptions by some of the original posters that got this thing rolling.  RRKen LIVES in Mason City.  He is in the best position to know (FACTUALLY) what happened.

[RRKen]

New regulations were to go into effect December 26, 2008, but the railroads successfully petitioned for a delay until April 1, 2009. The regs can be found at 49 CFR 1580.

Suffice to say, every passenger and freight railroad now must have a Rail Security Coordinator who is available 24/7 to coordinate intelligence and security with the Transportation Security Administration and law enforcement agencies.

And every railroad now is required to "immediately report potential threats and significant security concerns to the Department of Homeland Security at 703-563-3240 or 1-877-456-8722."

Potential threats or significant security concerns are defined to include:

--interference with train crews;

--bomb threats;

--suspicious items that could disrupt railroad operations;

--suspicious activity around rail cars or rail facilities;

--discovery of a firearm or other deadly weapon on a train, station, terminal, facility, storage yard, or other location used in the operation of the railroad;

--indications of tampering with rail cars;

--surveillance of a train, facility, storage yard, or other location used in the operation of the railroad;

--threatening correspondence received by the railroad.

In addition, the FRA has posted rules concerning TIH/PIH materials which includes:

"To guard against the possibility that an unauthorized individual could tamper with rail cars containing hazardous materials to precipitate an incident during transportation, such as detonation or release using an improvised explosive device (IED), the rule requires the rail carriers’ pre-trip inspections of placarded rail cars to include an inspection for signs of tampering with the rail car, including its seals and closures, and an inspection for any item that does not belong, is suspicious, or may be an IED."

The training we get is not on a whim from the carrier.  Your interpretations do not matter since,  you are not in a position to regulated railroads, nor impose economic penalties upon them.  This information is out there for you to research at you leisure.  And it seems to go along with what the former Military people here have said.

[zugmann]

CNW 6000

mInteresting posts Tom & Paul.  About the only 2 worth reading on this thread. 

 

 

That hurt, Dan.  I'm taking my fusees and going home. 

[Anonymous]

RRKen

New regulations were to go into effect December 26, 2008, but the railroads successfully petitioned for a delay until April 1, 2009. The regs can be found at 49 CFR 1580.

Suffice to say, every passenger and freight railroad now must have a Rail Security Coordinator who is available 24/7 to coordinate intelligence and security with the Transportation Security Administration and law enforcement agencies.

And every railroad now is required to "immediately report potential threats and significant security concerns to the Department of Homeland Security at 703-563-3240 or 1-877-456-8722."

Potential threats or significant security concerns are defined to include:

--interference with train crews;

--bomb threats;

--suspicious items that could disrupt railroad operations;

--suspicious activity around rail cars or rail facilities;

--discovery of a firearm or other deadly weapon on a train, station, terminal, facility, storage yard, or other location used in the operation of the railroad;

--indications of tampering with rail cars;

--surveillance of a train, facility, storage yard, or other location used in the operation of the railroad;

--threatening correspondence received by the railroad.

That is interesting because it seems to directly intersect with the railroad photography hobby.  The prohibition item of surveillance would certainly cover all railroad photography.  It would also pertain to observation alone without a camera.  And it would apply to people conducting surveillance who are not actually on railroad property. 

 

Now granted, it does not say that surveillance is illegal.  However, the occurrence of surveillance does require the railroad company to report the incident to the Department of Homeland Security.  So what happens after that phone call?

 

Surely the police must be called in order to investigate the surveillance incident and make a report to DHS.  Maybe DHS sends their own officer to directly investigate.  So, if this is the procedure, it means that any person who looks at a train with apparent interest, from any location, will be questioned and investigated for conducting surveillance if that person is seen by an employee of the railroad.

[Victrola1]

 Would using a fusee for auxiliary light photography be of concern? 

 

[Deggesty]

edblysard

I just blew coffee out my nose and all over my desk....

Ed, when will you learn: DO NOT fill your mouth just before reading a post, especially one on a thread like this?

[Paul_D_North_Jr]

. . . and most especially a post by/ from wabash1 ! 

- Paul. 

[schlimm]

 What's the deal with the Eleanor Roosevelt "wit?"

[Victrola1]

Eleanor Roosevelt was a well known advocate of government regulation.

http://boe.aar.com/boe/download/bureau_of_explosives_specification_for_standard_track_torpedoes.pdf

 

[schlimm]

Victrola1

Eleanor Roosevelt was a well known advocate of government regulation.

http://boe.aar.com/boe/download/bureau_of_explosives_specification_for_standard_track_torpedoes.pdf

 

 

Among other things, but I doubt if she had anything to do with regulating railroad employees or the link above.

[Anonymous]

 YAY!!!!!

The 100th post!!!

Eleanor Roosevelt would be proud......

[edblysard]

You would think after this many years I would be prepared....

Paul_D_North_Jr

. . . and most especially a post by/ from wabash1 ! 

- Paul. 

[CopCarSS]

You guys disappoint me a little bit. I mean...yes...I realize you're all waving to Eleanor Roosevelt in the fog while eating oreos. None of you have mentioned the fact that she was really there to see how well camouflaged those white boxcars with the shackles are in the fog.

[Victrola1]

I have heard cows must be kept from green corn or their stomachs may expand and explode. What about Oreos? What of goats?

If a cow in green corn along the tracks explodes as the engine goes past, will this cause the train to be put in emergency stop? Will the Secret Service return fire from Eleanor's private car?   

[BNSFwatcher]

RRKen

There was so little information.  Even if I was given more, I doubt it would be shared here.   Indeed it would not.   I let the powers that be do that job.

Another GOVERNMENT COVERUP!

Hays

[BNSFwatcher]

A serious question.  Was it a "Green Goat"?  They are much easier to see in the fog, even if they are in a pasture or cornfield.

Hays

[BNSFwatcher]

Shouldn't we ask "Tugboat Tony" about the fog horn, if he isn't too busy running into railroad bridges?

This thread is even funnier than Darwin's thread.  I'm proud of y'all!

The Invisible Goatman

[blownout cylinder]

CopCarSS

You guys disappoint me a little bit. I mean...yes...I realize you're all waving to Eleanor Roosevelt in the fog while eating oreos. None of you have mentioned the fact that she was really there to see how well camouflaged those white boxcars with the shackles are in the fog.

Thanks for the laugh! It was a good thing I just swallowed me coffee when I saw this!!

[Anonymous]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HY8vxYX78s

[spcascades]

In regards to the "green goat,"  if it has a cat engine, would that same goat meow out in the corn field? 

 

Which brings up another thought, could you train that same cat powered green goat to use the littler box?

 

 

[wabash1]

If i post i think I will be reported again its probley gonna be PG-13 or worse and Norris will go Bad Doggie.

[Murphy Siding]

Anybody want to talk about railroad stuff?

[dmoore74]

Have there been any further reports on what the "device" actually was?

[CNW 6000]

Murphy Siding

Anybody want to talk about railroad stuff?

Personally I thought Ken had some great perspective...as he lives in that town.  Waiting for more info...

[Anonymous]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNgZcRn9peM

 

[zugmann]

Murphy Siding

Anybody want to talk about railroad stuff?

 

 

Nah. Goats are more fun. 

 

 

So are Oregon cookies. 

[Anonymous]

zugmann

Murphy Siding

Anybody want to talk about railroad stuff?

 

Nah. Goats are more fun. 

So are Oregon cookies. 

And Eleanor Roosevelt selling margarine on TV.......

[CNW 6000]

zugmann

Murphy Siding

Anybody want to talk about railroad stuff?

 

 

Nah. Goats are more fun. 

 

 

So are Oregon cookies. 

So if you have two of those goats (with cookies) in a cornfield...does that count as a cornfield meet?

[blownout cylinder]

CNW 6000

zugmann

Murphy Siding

Anybody want to talk about railroad stuff?

 

 

Nah. Goats are more fun. 

 

 

So are Oregon cookies. 

So if you have two of those goats (with cookies) in a cornfield...does that count as a cornfield meet?

Wouldn't they have to face each other?

[blownout cylinder]

spcascades

In regards to the "green goat,"  if it has a cat engine, would that same goat meow out in the corn field? 

 

Which brings up another thought, could you train that same cat powered green goat to use the littler box?

 

 

It has a unique voice to it---I suppose it could be a meow

All cats come with their own litterbox ----