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Posted by blownout cylinder on Tuesday, March 23, 2010 10:39 PM

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nor do I see explosive oreos mentioned. Smile

Are they any relationship to the exploding Torpedo Cigar?

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Posted by RRKen on Tuesday, March 23, 2010 10:40 PM

spcascades

 But anyway...  Whilst going on 10 years for searching for these little explosive devices, I looked out the window and notced a goat in a pasture eating Oregon Cookies!

They have them in Wisconsin too, mostly from dairy. 

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Posted by RRKen on Tuesday, March 23, 2010 10:42 PM

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Murphy Siding
nor do I see explosive oreos mentioned. Smile

Are they any relationship to the exploding Torpedo Cigar?

Hand rolled by Cubans in Brooklyn, and packed in axle grease.  I have had a few.

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Posted by zugmann on Tuesday, March 23, 2010 10:42 PM

 I tried using oreos to protect a crossing.  Didn't work too well.

 

Goats ate them all. 

 

But I didn't set the bushes on fire! Whistling

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Posted by spcascades on Tuesday, March 23, 2010 10:44 PM

I ran over that there torpedo in attempts to scare the cooie eating goat, in which case I would steal the remaining cookies, but to no avail.  Those little torepdos are so common and readily available, the goat was used to them.  Kinda like railroad workers are to know-it-wall foamers.

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Posted by zugmann on Tuesday, March 23, 2010 10:45 PM

spcascades

I ran over that there torpedo in attempts to scare the cooie eating goat, in which case I would steal the remaining cookies, but to no avail.  Those little torepdos are so common and readily available, the goat was used to them.  Kinda like railroad workers are to know-it-wall foamers.

 

 

cmon... we know you wanted to steal the goat!

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Posted by spcascades on Tuesday, March 23, 2010 10:50 PM

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spcascades

I ran over that there torpedo in attempts to scare the cooie eating goat, in which case I would steal the remaining cookies, but to no avail.  Those little torepdos are so common and readily available, the goat was used to them.  Kinda like railroad workers are to know-it-wall foamers.

 

 

cmon... we know you wanted to steal the goat!

No, No.  The goat was perfectly fine right were it was, doing what normal goats do.  eating cookies in the pasture.

 

BTW, for you mega-foamers out there, the goat used in this thread is an animal, not a switch engine.  I felt I had to clear the air on that since there are probably many folks at home asking themselves, "now why would a switch engine be out in a pasture..... "

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Posted by blownout cylinder on Tuesday, March 23, 2010 10:54 PM

spcascades
BTW, for you mega-foamers out there, the goat used in this thread is an animal, not a switch engine.  I felt I had to clear the air on that since there are probably many folks at home asking themselves, "now why would a switch engine be out in a pasture..... "

Pasture? Was it not a cornfield?

When I first saw this I thought of the weird story of the locomotive that apparently went off icy rails and ended up in the middle of a field---only to back up and rerail itself and just carry on. Like I said---weird weird weird

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Tuesday, March 23, 2010 10:54 PM

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zugmann

spcascades

I ran over that there torpedo in attempts to scare the cooie eating goat, in which case I would steal the remaining cookies, but to no avail.  Those little torepdos are so common and readily available, the goat was used to them.  Kinda like railroad workers are to know-it-wall foamers.

 

 

cmon... we know you wanted to steal the goat!

No, No.  The goat was perfectly fine right were it was, doing what normal goats do.  eating cookies in the pasture.

 

BTW, for you mega-foamers out there, the goat used in this thread is an animal, not a switch engine.  I felt I had to clear the air on that since there are probably many folks at home asking themselves, "now why would a switch engine be out in a pasture..... "

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Posted by zugmann on Tuesday, March 23, 2010 10:55 PM

spcascades
 

No, No.  The goat was perfectly fine right were it was, doing what normal goats do.  eating cookies in the pasture.

 

BTW, for you mega-foamers out there, the goat used in this thread is an animal, not a switch engine.  I felt I had to clear the air on that since there are probably many folks at home asking themselves, "now why would a switch engine be out in a pasture..... "

 

 

Maybe the engineer got lost in the fog....?

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Posted by blownout cylinder on Tuesday, March 23, 2010 10:57 PM

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Maybe the engineer got lost in the fog....?

I can just hear this now---"Which way do we go George? Which way do we go?"

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Posted by zugmann on Tuesday, March 23, 2010 10:57 PM

Murphy Siding

 Confused   First generation, or second generation goat?  Was it painted Goat Heritage I, or Goat Heritage III?

 

 

Low-emissions, Genset Goat.  Unless he had too many cookies...

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Posted by BamaCSX83 on Tuesday, March 23, 2010 10:58 PM

*sung in his best Cookie Monster voice* "C is for cookie, that's good enough for me"....

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Posted by zugmann on Tuesday, March 23, 2010 10:58 PM

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zugmann
Maybe the engineer got lost in the fog....?

I can just hear this now---"Which way do we go George? Which way do we go?"

 

 

"Bring it back, reeeeeeeeal easy!"

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Posted by spcascades on Tuesday, March 23, 2010 10:59 PM

You can't find Oregon cookies in a corn field. 

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Posted by blownout cylinder on Tuesday, March 23, 2010 10:59 PM

zugmann

Murphy Siding

 Confused   First generation, or second generation goat?  Was it painted Goat Heritage I, or Goat Heritage III?

 

 

Low-emissions, Genset Goat.  Unless he had too many cookies...

They get too much gas if they have too many cookies?

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Posted by zugmann on Tuesday, March 23, 2010 11:00 PM

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They get too much gas if they have too many cookies?

 

 

Only if they are Oregon cookies. 

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Posted by RRKen on Tuesday, March 23, 2010 11:01 PM

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They get too much gas if they have too many cookies?

 

 

Only if they are Oregon cookies. 

I never get gas from Goat's Milk.  

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Posted by spcascades on Tuesday, March 23, 2010 11:02 PM

It probably wouldn't be wise to chase an Oregon Cookie eatin' goat into a corn field.

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Posted by zugmann on Tuesday, March 23, 2010 11:03 PM

RRKen

I never get gas from Goat's Milk.  

 

 

Guess we'll have to search elsewhere to solve our energy crisis...

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Posted by blownout cylinder on Tuesday, March 23, 2010 11:03 PM

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*sung in his best Cookie Monster voice* "C is for cookie, that's good enough for me"....

But was it the Oreo or the Oregon cookie?

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Posted by zugmann on Tuesday, March 23, 2010 11:04 PM

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But was it the Oreo or the Oregon cookie?

 

 

Oregon cookies are a "sometimes food". 

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Posted by spcascades on Tuesday, March 23, 2010 11:05 PM

Oregon.  See, you can eat cookies all day long and when they come out you can't tell what it was.  Now corn on the other hand, well....

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Posted by blownout cylinder on Tuesday, March 23, 2010 11:06 PM

spcascades

Oregon.  See, you can eat cookies all day long and when they come out you can't tell what it was.  Now corn on the other hand, well....

Or Tomatoes----

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Posted by spcascades on Tuesday, March 23, 2010 11:08 PM

I've noticed blueberries do the same thing....

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Posted by ericsp on Wednesday, March 24, 2010 12:32 AM

zugmann

 And what happens when a RRer finds a fusee in the fog?

 

Run away, screaming, at a speed slow enough to allow stopping within half the length of visibility or 15 feet per hour, whichever is slower. 

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Posted by Paul_D_North_Jr on Wednesday, March 24, 2010 5:45 AM

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zugmann

 I have found a total of ONE torpedo.  Long forgotten in the box on a foreign line locomotive.  [snip] 

[snip]

As a former disaster control responder, I was told to isolate any unidentified or known explosive device, clear the area of personnel and wait for a qualified EOD team to deal with it.  I also got to re-calculate the safety zone around each parking spot where a bomb-loaded F-4 might be parked (it was big, and got bigger.)  If, on the other hand, I recognized it as reasonably harmless (grenade with the pin still in, or a pipe nipple without an explosive charge) I could simply remove it and turn it over to EOD when they arrived if potentially explosive, or to recycling if it was simply scrap.

So maybe the conductor saw something he didn't recognize that was actually not an immediate hazard, recognized as such by the responders.  Sounds to me as if everyone involved did what they were supposed to do.

Chuck {MSgt(ret) USAF]

 

When I was working at the Aberdeen Proving Grounds in Maryland in the early 1980's, some of the safety rules and briefings concerned UXO = UneXploded Ordnance, especially the old stuff, which we were told could be more dangerous because of chemical decomposition leading to instability and hence a risk of detonation from any impetus - movement, vibration, impact, static electricity, etc. 

So yours truly was walking along a low embankment on the edge of a large field above the Mulberry Point track one fine spring afternoon, and sees something that looks like an old dirt-encrusted  mortar round laying at the break of the slope down to the tracks.  A hole the same size was right next to it, and the grass was freshly mowed - I surmised that a tire on the mower caught the edge of it and flipped it out of its hole.  There was nothing identifiable nearby, so I got a single stake out of the truck, drove it in the ground about 3 ft. away, and tied red survey flagging on it.  On my way out that day I reported it by leaving a message for our APG construction coordinator/ inspector, 'Doc' Shelley.

Next morning I stopped in to ask what happened with it.  He notified the base Fire Dept., who got the UXO guys out to go get and dispose of it - turned out it was a live round from back in the World War I days.  Then I was complimented for finding and reporting it - and yelled at for driving the stake in next to it, which could have set it off.  Lesson learned for the next time, which may pertain here . . . even if you know what it is, if it's old, don't touch it or go near it - get the experts.

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Posted by edblysard on Wednesday, March 24, 2010 6:39 AM

I just blew coffee out my nose and all over my desk....Cowboy

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Fog Waving Saftey fussee, all in 1 post this is not good, now exsplosive and judgment of duty , looks like this thread is headed for the crapper. Norris you cant blame me this time. good doggie..................

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Posted by blownout cylinder on Wednesday, March 24, 2010 7:02 AM

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zugmann

 And what happens when a RRer finds a fusee in the fog?

 

Run away, screaming, at a speed slow enough to allow stopping within half the length of visibility or 15 feet per hour, whichever is slower. 

Wouldn't it better if'n he used a fog horn? Some fog has been known to swallow the human voice y'know

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Posted by CNW 6000 on Wednesday, March 24, 2010 7:29 AM

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zugmann

 I have found a total of ONE torpedo.  Long forgotten in the box on a foreign line locomotive.  [snip] 

[snip]

As a former disaster control responder, I was told to isolate any unidentified or known explosive device, clear the area of personnel and wait for a qualified EOD team to deal with it.  I also got to re-calculate the safety zone around each parking spot where a bomb-loaded F-4 might be parked (it was big, and got bigger.)  If, on the other hand, I recognized it as reasonably harmless (grenade with the pin still in, or a pipe nipple without an explosive charge) I could simply remove it and turn it over to EOD when they arrived if potentially explosive, or to recycling if it was simply scrap.

So maybe the conductor saw something he didn't recognize that was actually not an immediate hazard, recognized as such by the responders.  Sounds to me as if everyone involved did what they were supposed to do.

Chuck {MSgt(ret) USAF]

 

When I was working at the Aberdeen Proving Grounds in Maryland in the early 1980's, some of the safety rules and briefings concerned UXO = UneXploded Ordnance, especially the old stuff, which we were told could be more dangerous because of chemical decomposition leading to instability and hence a risk of detonation from any impetus - movement, vibration, impact, static electricity, etc. 

So yours truly was walking along a low embankment on the edge of a large field above the Mulberry Point track one fine spring afternoon, and sees something that looks like an old dirt-encrusted  mortar round laying at the break of the slope down to the tracks.  A hole the same size was right next to it, and the grass was freshly mowed - I surmised that a tire on the mower caught the edge of it and flipped it out of its hole.  There was nothing identifiable nearby, so I got a single stake out of the truck, drove it in the ground about 3 ft. away, and tied red survey flagging on it.  On my way out that day I reported it by leaving a message for our APG construction coordinator/ inspector, 'Doc' Shelley.

Next morning I stopped in to ask what happened with it.  He notified the base Fire Dept., who got the UXO guys out to go get and dispose of it - turned out it was a live round from back in the World War I days.  Then I was complimented for finding and reporting it - and yelled at for driving the stake in next to it, which could have set it off.  Lesson learned for the next time, which may pertain here . . . even if you know what it is, if it's old, don't touch it or go near it - get the experts.

- Paul North. 

Interesting posts Tom & Paul.  About the only 2 worth reading on this thread. 

Dan

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