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CNW Dash-9's running in Wisconsin on MPRSS

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Posted by jereising on Wednesday, October 28, 2015 6:20 PM

Word today has it they are at IRM for long term storage...check the webcam...

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Posted by poop on Saturday, May 16, 2009 8:12 AM

Would anyone have updates on where these CNW engines would be today? Are they to be heading somewhere, or have they already been sent to storage? It would be nice to see them one LAST time!

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Posted by bigiron on Saturday, May 16, 2009 12:53 AM

Have pics of them switching the Chrysler plant last fall in Belvedere, IL. Just can't figure out how to get the pics up on this site. Any help please?

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Posted by MILW205 on Tuesday, May 12, 2009 4:55 PM

kschmidt

 According to postings on the CNW Newsgroup the trips will be leaving between 8am-9am on both days.  It doesn't sound like there is much public access to the Kate Shelley bridge area for those that are not riding the train.  Also I don't believe that the CNW units will be pulling the train on the Iowa Interstate, but I could be wrong.  Didn't see any mention of power for the that train. 

Keith Schmidt

If you are interested in getting right smack up to the leads of the KS bridge, then you're correct that there's no public access.  However, there is a small bridge across the river just north with unobstructed views of the KS itself, accessable from the Boone side (access from the west side has been cut off due to construction of the new bridge)

 

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Posted by jeffhergert on Tuesday, May 12, 2009 2:46 PM

The impression I get from various railfan lists is that the UP is supplying cars (and the two CNW engines) for the trip on their line.  The IAIS is supplying the cars and engines for the trip on their line.  

When the UP trip is done, supposedly the cars will depart Boone for Council Bluffs.  I don't know if the CNW engines will take the cars west, but I'd guess they would.

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Posted by poop on Tuesday, May 12, 2009 10:50 AM

Here is the reply I got from the C&NWHS:

 

"Both trips are scheduled to depart at 0900, but may change.Times are not set in stone. For the Saturday trip we should depart Atlantic around 1300 and arrive back in DM around 1630.  The Atlantic trip will NOT have the C&NW locos.There are many locations along the route to photograph the train.  It depends on your style and what you want for background."

 

 Dana

 

So I guess that the CNW locos will only be on the Friday trip to Boone. That is a one way trip, so I wonder where the equipment will go from there? Does anyone know if both trips will use the same passenger cars? I'm also wondering if the CNW locos will go back to Des Moines or head elsewhere.

 

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Posted by kschmidt on Monday, May 11, 2009 6:29 PM

 According to postings on the CNW Newsgroup the trips will be leaving between 8am-9am on both days.  It doesn't sound like there is much public access to the Kate Shelley bridge area for those that are not riding the train.  Also I don't believe that the CNW units will be pulling the train on the Iowa Interstate, but I could be wrong.  Didn't see any mention of power for the that train. 

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Posted by poop on Monday, May 11, 2009 11:36 AM
 I found this info (below message) posted in the upcoming events section on this site! I would like to know the schedule times for both of these excursion trains (May 15/16th), since I will be traveling from Michigan to photograph them. I am wondering if both of these excursions will use the CNW units as power. I'm going to e-mail the C&NWHS to hopefully get more details! I want to make sure to catch these CNW units before they are gone. It is good that Union Pacific is bringing them out for this event! If anyone has more info on this event, please post.
 
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Thu, 5/14/2009 - Sun, 5/17/2009
Categories
Conventions, Model Railroad, Open House
Location
Holiday Inn - Des Moines Northwest
4800 Merle Hay Rd.
Des Moines, IA 50322
United States
Times
Varies depending upon event during convention
Admission Fees
Before April 15th:
Member $211
Non-Member $236

Until May 7th:
Member $221
Non-Member $246
Description
Thursday May 14th:
-Registration Begins (at 1500)
-Silent Auction Opens (though Friday evening)
-Model Clinics by: Ron Christensen and Lloyd Keyser
-Open Showing of Members' Sliders & Photos

Friday May 15th:
-Excursion No. 1 via the Union Pacific Railroad- "We'll board at Hull Ave. Yard in Des Moines, traversing the former Rock Island 'Short Line' and North Western 'Main Line' en route to the Kate Shelley High Bridge. We will de-train at the west end for an opportunity to photograph the old and new high bridges. Bill Wimmer, retired VP of Engineering for the UP, will field questions. We will make a reverse move to Boone Yard where we will board tour busses back to the hotel. Time-permitting, we will make stops along the way at Kate Shelley Park in Moingona and the fully-restored M&St.L depot in Dallas Center. Lunch will be provided."
-Annual Business Meeting
-Clinics by: Rob Leachman, and Mark Amfahr
-Open Showing of Members' Slides & Photographs

Saturday May 16th:
-Excursion No. 2 via the Iowa Interstate R.R.- "Boarding at the former ROck Island passenger station in Downtown Des Moines, this round-trip will take us along the former 'Route of the Rockets' to Atlantic. Lunch will be catered at the restored depot. Photo run-bys will be executed exclusively for passengers in remote, undisclosed locations."
-Evening Banquet Buffet (featuring Don Hoffsommer)
-Open Showing of Members' Slides & Photos

Sunday May 17th:
-Breakfast Buffet & Contest Awards Presentation
-Free Admission Swap Meet
Contact Info
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2009 Meet Registrar
119 32nd Street NW
Cedar Rapids, IA 52405-4616
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Posted by MILW205 on Wednesday, May 6, 2009 10:29 AM

Tugboat Tony

The pair are officially going to be in Des Moines for the CNWHS conv.  then to storage.  I'm personally very torn about this... I grew up and started railroading with all the CNW, so I hate to see the last of them gone... but I get a personal joy out of snuffing the fire and capping a stack on a GE locomotive.

  Once their parked the C44-9s will be late to come out of storage. very very late!

Do you or does anyone know exactly where in Des Moines they will be on display during the convention (5/14-5/17)?  I tried checking the CNWHS website but did not find any details.

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Posted by Tugboat Tony on Friday, May 1, 2009 6:33 AM

The pair are officially going to be in Des Moines for the CNWHS conv.  then to storage.  I'm personally very torn about this... I grew up and started railroading with all the CNW, so I hate to see the last of them gone... but I get a personal joy out of snuffing the fire and capping a stack on a GE locomotive.

  Once their parked the C44-9s will be late to come out of storage. very very late!

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Posted by CNW 6000 on Wednesday, April 29, 2009 3:04 PM

I missed 'em again....grr.

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Posted by zardoz on Wednesday, April 29, 2009 3:03 PM

WSORatSussex

CNW 8701 just got a warrant SB from Airport to MP53 on the Milwaukee Sub. (12:01)

Sounds like there must be some work around MP53 and the dispatcher couldn't get them past there right away. It sounds like this may be the last run.

Good luck to anyone out there lookin!

Be Safe -- Ed

Drat! Drat! Drat!

As soon as I read your post, I headed out to Bain Station Road, only to see the signals at the south end of Bain go green, meaning the train had just cleared Gurnee.  I hung around a while listening to the scanner, just to be sure, and soon i heard the 8701 give back it's warrant.

Thanks much for the update, Ed.

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Posted by WSORatSussex on Wednesday, April 29, 2009 12:22 PM

CNW 8701 just got a warrant SB from Airport to MP53 on the Milwaukee Sub. (12:01)

Sounds like there must be some work around MP53 and the dispatcher couldn't get them past there right away. It sounds like this may be the last run.

Good luck to anyone out there lookin!

Be Safe -- Ed

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Posted by WSORatSussex on Friday, April 24, 2009 10:34 AM

I'll have my 'ears on' around Butler USA all weekend and will update this thread if I hear anything.

 Ed

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Posted by CShaveRR on Thursday, April 23, 2009 8:39 PM
Yeah, that 0800 departure time was for Proviso; it was close to that, anyway (8646 was leading). They made some nice GE noises while going by me, then opened up a short distance after that. Very nice (wish the work had let up so I could have appreciated it more!)!

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Posted by CNW 6000 on Thursday, April 23, 2009 6:27 PM

I guess I'm down to hoping they're running where I can get to on Sunday.

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Posted by kschmidt on Thursday, April 23, 2009 5:51 PM

 I think they were through St Francis around 2:00pm. 

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Posted by CNW 6000 on Thursday, April 23, 2009 10:56 AM

Well without hearing where they are and the 'bingo' time passing (drive time to Randolph, take pics/delay, drive back and get to work on time) I guess I miss out this time.

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Posted by CNW 6000 on Thursday, April 23, 2009 7:44 AM

Word I heard is they are on the MPRSS today supposedly leaving around 8 (not sure if that's out of Butler or Proviso), but I'd like to catch them at their CPA to me which is Randolph, WI.  Hopefully (with a little help) I will!

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Posted by WSORatSussex on Tuesday, April 21, 2009 5:14 PM

The MSSPR arrived in Butler around 16:15 this afternoon with CNW8701 in the lead. They setout a few cars and dropped off some bad order power. It sounded like they would be headed on South, perhaps after a crew change as they were told to leave the units back on the main. They were sitting right by the Capital Drive bridge when I passed by at 16:45.

 

Ed

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Posted by Lord Atmo on Tuesday, April 21, 2009 1:43 PM

jeffhergert

Another engineer in Boone said he had heard they were trying to keep them near Proviso, lest they wander too far and get patched.

At this point, that would be a waste of money and materials. UP only patches units that they intend to keep on their roster for a long period of time. With all of the storing going on now and the C44-9W lease expiring in 2015, UP just doesn't care that they dont match their roster and would sooner store them than patch them.

And I heard from a reliable source that Omaha has ordered Proviso to store them by may 1st. Whether this is true or not remains a mystery, but this person has very close contact with UP and he rarely is wrong. He said that when they arrive in Proviso on MSSPR, they will make one final run to Council Bluffs on MPRCB, come back on MCBPR, and then head for storage.

I advise all duo chasers to ready your cameras as this may be the last time you ever see them as well as a locomotive with a CNW reporting mark leading a revenue freight train.

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Posted by WSORatSussex on Tuesday, April 21, 2009 11:49 AM

Just at lunch and heard the Adams Sub dispatch give the CN(w) 8701 a warrant East from Rock to Butler Yard. Sounds like there is some trackwork around mp300-303 right now which may slow her down. I think that is between Mapleton and Merton, but not exactly sure. mp 305 is at Sussex.

It was an after-arrival warrant for UP3566 Westbound - meeting at Rock probably around 12:15 - or so. Warrants were issued around 11:15.

 Best of luck to anyone out fanning today. Hope you get to see them!

Ed

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Posted by cnwfan51 on Tuesday, April 21, 2009 6:17 AM

Big Smile    The CNW twins are headed to Des Moines Iowa the weeekend of 14th thru the 18th of May for the CNWHS annual meet.   They head an excirstion from Des Moines to the High Bridge on Friday the 14th    I am hoping they will be here in Des Monies for the entire meet   Larry

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Posted by jeffhergert on Monday, April 20, 2009 10:53 PM

There was talk about trying to get the last two CNWs for the CNW Historical Society's charter train in May.  They're going to go from Des Moines to Boone and over the Kate Shelley bridge and, weather permitting, detrain there and talk with Bill Wimmer.

Another engineer in Boone said he had heard they were trying to keep them near Proviso, lest they wander too far and get patched.

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Posted by Lyon_Wonder on Monday, April 20, 2009 10:19 PM

I’m not surprised UP’s putting C44-9W into storage since they’re storing SD70Ms less than 10 years old.  I think all of UP’s C44-9Ws are former C&NW and SP.  They’re not as common on UP’s roster as some other class 1s.  On BNSF and NS C40/44-9Ws are almost everywhere.   

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Posted by Lord Atmo on Monday, April 20, 2009 4:44 PM

CNW 6000

Unless UP decided that they needed bigger power elsewhere.  I will take a page from CN: some WC GP40s are being LUGOd and some are leading mainline manifests.  Unless someone with direct knowledge of what's going on would chime in I don't think I'm going to read too much into any speculation.

True. I'm actively searching for any additional information on this as well. I'll post any new findings as they come up.

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Posted by espeefoamer on Monday, April 20, 2009 2:27 PM

Last sumer,I saw CNW 8646 as the lead unit of an eastbound freight near my home in Whittier,CA.

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Posted by CNW 6000 on Monday, April 20, 2009 2:18 PM

Unless UP decided that they needed bigger power elsewhere.  I will take a page from CN: some WC GP40s are being LUGOd and some are leading mainline manifests.  Unless someone with direct knowledge of what's going on would chime in I don't think I'm going to read too much into any speculation.

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Posted by Lord Atmo on Monday, April 20, 2009 12:43 PM

Others are saying they might come back, but I'm guessing they're on the way to a storage line.

Remember, they spent almost all of 2008 running gradually smaller jobs. Reduced to a yard job at the end of the year and continuing into the beginning of 2009.

For them to suddenly return to manifest service makes little sense...Unless they're headed for storage.

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