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CNW Dash-9's running in Wisconsin on MPRSS

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CNW Dash-9's running in Wisconsin on MPRSS
Posted by kschmidt on Sunday, April 19, 2009 7:50 PM

Greetings, 

 Got a tip that the pair of remaining Chicago & Northwestern Dash-9's were going to leaving there usual Global II to Global III transfer run and make some trips up to Wisconsin on former CNW tracks and onto the Adams Sub.  Lo and behold about 12noon the pair of CNW #8646 leading and #8701 trailing in typical CNW style rolled through St Francis, WI.  

I was trackside even though the weather wasn't the greatest it was nice to see the two together.  Talk is that they will be making a couple of round trips and then heading for storage.  

Heading northbound along Mitchell Field near Layton Ave 

Westbound at Clement Ave near St Francis, WI

Crossing under 27th Street in Milwaukee alongside Maynard Steel

To see more shots of the CNW units and other shots from a busy railfan weekend in SE Wisconsin including "Baby Builders" Check out http://www.flickr.com/photos/22338037@N04/sets/72157616966050755/

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Posted by zardoz on Sunday, April 19, 2009 7:55 PM

Sure; the one time I go to Chicago to see some interesting trains, the interesting stuff comes right past my house.Sigh

BTW, nice photos.  How ever did you manage to stay ahead of it through town?

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Posted by CShaveRR on Sunday, April 19, 2009 7:58 PM
Nice shots, Keith! I remember some of those spots, even if it has been decades since I operated through there. And I caught the units myself this morning, as they were leaving Proviso.

So they're up to Dash 9s on the units headed into storage?

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Posted by kschmidt on Sunday, April 19, 2009 8:15 PM

 Thanks for the nice comments.  Well the only way I was able to keep up was the 10mph limit through the curve at St Francis.  If wasn't for that I wouldn't have gotten most of the shots.  Once they cleared St Francis the race was on. 

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Posted by Doublestack on Sunday, April 19, 2009 8:22 PM

Warms the soul to see that ball and bar logo alive and well.   The GE's weren't my favorite CNW unit, but beggers certainly can't be choosers any longer.  Oh what I'd give to see a couple of the formely ubiquitous SD40-2 in CNW paint (and no - not Zito yellow). 

 Very nice pics - thanks much for sharing!!!

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Posted by Lord Atmo on Sunday, April 19, 2009 9:22 PM

From the Wisrail yahoo group:

 

"After about a year of running in dedicated Global II/III shuttle service, the
two CNWs are due to come out on the main line for one last hurray. The 8646 has
an inspection due on 5/05 and the 5/14, and it looks like they'll be put into
storage before the inspection is done. As C44-9Ws, these things aren't exactly
UP's prime units these days.


-----Keats"

 

It would seem the end is near. However, it's not confirmed currently,

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Posted by coborn35 on Sunday, April 19, 2009 9:33 PM

 Max, I would guess they are just being LUGO'd (Laid Up, Good Order) in any case.

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Posted by CNW 6000 on Sunday, April 19, 2009 11:52 PM

Lord Atmo
It would seem the end is near. However, it's not confirmed currently,

I hope not.  I have to see 8701 yet!  I will have half a day off on Tuesday and I'll be huntin' with all the help I can get...

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Posted by Lord Atmo on Monday, April 20, 2009 12:20 AM

 If they ARE en route to storage, I would wonder if they're even coming back. You may end up going all the way to St Paul

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Posted by CNW 6000 on Monday, April 20, 2009 12:51 AM

Well...if I can make that happen I will.  Not gonna hold my breath but an hourish drive isn't out of the question.

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Posted by Lord Atmo on Monday, April 20, 2009 12:43 PM

Others are saying they might come back, but I'm guessing they're on the way to a storage line.

Remember, they spent almost all of 2008 running gradually smaller jobs. Reduced to a yard job at the end of the year and continuing into the beginning of 2009.

For them to suddenly return to manifest service makes little sense...Unless they're headed for storage.

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Posted by CNW 6000 on Monday, April 20, 2009 2:18 PM

Unless UP decided that they needed bigger power elsewhere.  I will take a page from CN: some WC GP40s are being LUGOd and some are leading mainline manifests.  Unless someone with direct knowledge of what's going on would chime in I don't think I'm going to read too much into any speculation.

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Posted by espeefoamer on Monday, April 20, 2009 2:27 PM

Last sumer,I saw CNW 8646 as the lead unit of an eastbound freight near my home in Whittier,CA.

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Posted by Lord Atmo on Monday, April 20, 2009 4:44 PM

CNW 6000

Unless UP decided that they needed bigger power elsewhere.  I will take a page from CN: some WC GP40s are being LUGOd and some are leading mainline manifests.  Unless someone with direct knowledge of what's going on would chime in I don't think I'm going to read too much into any speculation.

True. I'm actively searching for any additional information on this as well. I'll post any new findings as they come up.

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Posted by Lyon_Wonder on Monday, April 20, 2009 10:19 PM

I’m not surprised UP’s putting C44-9W into storage since they’re storing SD70Ms less than 10 years old.  I think all of UP’s C44-9Ws are former C&NW and SP.  They’re not as common on UP’s roster as some other class 1s.  On BNSF and NS C40/44-9Ws are almost everywhere.   

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Posted by jeffhergert on Monday, April 20, 2009 10:53 PM

There was talk about trying to get the last two CNWs for the CNW Historical Society's charter train in May.  They're going to go from Des Moines to Boone and over the Kate Shelley bridge and, weather permitting, detrain there and talk with Bill Wimmer.

Another engineer in Boone said he had heard they were trying to keep them near Proviso, lest they wander too far and get patched.

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Posted by cnwfan51 on Tuesday, April 21, 2009 6:17 AM

Big Smile    The CNW twins are headed to Des Moines Iowa the weeekend of 14th thru the 18th of May for the CNWHS annual meet.   They head an excirstion from Des Moines to the High Bridge on Friday the 14th    I am hoping they will be here in Des Monies for the entire meet   Larry

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Posted by WSORatSussex on Tuesday, April 21, 2009 11:49 AM

Just at lunch and heard the Adams Sub dispatch give the CN(w) 8701 a warrant East from Rock to Butler Yard. Sounds like there is some trackwork around mp300-303 right now which may slow her down. I think that is between Mapleton and Merton, but not exactly sure. mp 305 is at Sussex.

It was an after-arrival warrant for UP3566 Westbound - meeting at Rock probably around 12:15 - or so. Warrants were issued around 11:15.

 Best of luck to anyone out fanning today. Hope you get to see them!

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Posted by Lord Atmo on Tuesday, April 21, 2009 1:43 PM

jeffhergert

Another engineer in Boone said he had heard they were trying to keep them near Proviso, lest they wander too far and get patched.

At this point, that would be a waste of money and materials. UP only patches units that they intend to keep on their roster for a long period of time. With all of the storing going on now and the C44-9W lease expiring in 2015, UP just doesn't care that they dont match their roster and would sooner store them than patch them.

And I heard from a reliable source that Omaha has ordered Proviso to store them by may 1st. Whether this is true or not remains a mystery, but this person has very close contact with UP and he rarely is wrong. He said that when they arrive in Proviso on MSSPR, they will make one final run to Council Bluffs on MPRCB, come back on MCBPR, and then head for storage.

I advise all duo chasers to ready your cameras as this may be the last time you ever see them as well as a locomotive with a CNW reporting mark leading a revenue freight train.

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Posted by WSORatSussex on Tuesday, April 21, 2009 5:14 PM

The MSSPR arrived in Butler around 16:15 this afternoon with CNW8701 in the lead. They setout a few cars and dropped off some bad order power. It sounded like they would be headed on South, perhaps after a crew change as they were told to leave the units back on the main. They were sitting right by the Capital Drive bridge when I passed by at 16:45.

 

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Posted by CNW 6000 on Thursday, April 23, 2009 7:44 AM

Word I heard is they are on the MPRSS today supposedly leaving around 8 (not sure if that's out of Butler or Proviso), but I'd like to catch them at their CPA to me which is Randolph, WI.  Hopefully (with a little help) I will!

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Posted by CNW 6000 on Thursday, April 23, 2009 10:56 AM

Well without hearing where they are and the 'bingo' time passing (drive time to Randolph, take pics/delay, drive back and get to work on time) I guess I miss out this time.

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Posted by kschmidt on Thursday, April 23, 2009 5:51 PM

 I think they were through St Francis around 2:00pm. 

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Posted by CNW 6000 on Thursday, April 23, 2009 6:27 PM

I guess I'm down to hoping they're running where I can get to on Sunday.

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Posted by CShaveRR on Thursday, April 23, 2009 8:39 PM
Yeah, that 0800 departure time was for Proviso; it was close to that, anyway (8646 was leading). They made some nice GE noises while going by me, then opened up a short distance after that. Very nice (wish the work had let up so I could have appreciated it more!)!

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Posted by WSORatSussex on Friday, April 24, 2009 10:34 AM

I'll have my 'ears on' around Butler USA all weekend and will update this thread if I hear anything.

 Ed

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Posted by WSORatSussex on Wednesday, April 29, 2009 12:22 PM

CNW 8701 just got a warrant SB from Airport to MP53 on the Milwaukee Sub. (12:01)

Sounds like there must be some work around MP53 and the dispatcher couldn't get them past there right away. It sounds like this may be the last run.

Good luck to anyone out there lookin!

Be Safe -- Ed

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Posted by zardoz on Wednesday, April 29, 2009 3:03 PM

WSORatSussex

CNW 8701 just got a warrant SB from Airport to MP53 on the Milwaukee Sub. (12:01)

Sounds like there must be some work around MP53 and the dispatcher couldn't get them past there right away. It sounds like this may be the last run.

Good luck to anyone out there lookin!

Be Safe -- Ed

Drat! Drat! Drat!

As soon as I read your post, I headed out to Bain Station Road, only to see the signals at the south end of Bain go green, meaning the train had just cleared Gurnee.  I hung around a while listening to the scanner, just to be sure, and soon i heard the 8701 give back it's warrant.

Thanks much for the update, Ed.

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Posted by CNW 6000 on Wednesday, April 29, 2009 3:04 PM

I missed 'em again....grr.

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Posted by Tugboat Tony on Friday, May 1, 2009 6:33 AM

The pair are officially going to be in Des Moines for the CNWHS conv.  then to storage.  I'm personally very torn about this... I grew up and started railroading with all the CNW, so I hate to see the last of them gone... but I get a personal joy out of snuffing the fire and capping a stack on a GE locomotive.

  Once their parked the C44-9s will be late to come out of storage. very very late!

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