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Posted by CShaveRR on Wednesday, April 1, 2009 7:18 PM
RJ, you're right about the significance of the date--lower numbers than 2003 don't make sense as dates, and 2004, when squared, gives a date more than four millennia hence.

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Posted by Junctionfan on Thursday, April 2, 2009 3:46 PM

 Good day all.  It has been quite some time since I was on here enjoying debating and information sharing back and forth.  I have been busy working and learning more of politics.  I changed my political view recently after learning more about things especially after Obama was elected and the NDP and Liberal Party of Canada tried to pull a coalition government like Mussolini did........well I won't go into a political debate so I will say no more.

 I look forward to talking to you more often now and hope everyone has been well physically and so on.

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Posted by bubbajustin on Friday, April 3, 2009 4:16 PM

Hi everybody!

Been a while scince I have seen you all. Cold today. 47*. Well hope you have a good weekend! The Pan American is awesome!

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Posted by CShaveRR on Friday, April 3, 2009 4:40 PM
We're expecting snow here around Monday. The bad news is, we'll have to deal with it on the road. The good news is, driving will be done by people experienced with western Michigan winters. I'll be navigating--maybe I can work Galesburg in!

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Posted by bubbajustin on Friday, April 3, 2009 5:32 PM

Yah Carl were supposed to have a wintery mix here in Lafayette too. Man it alternates between shorts and jeans almost every day. Well if you don't like Indiana weather, just wait an hour!

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Posted by bubbajustin on Saturday, April 4, 2009 7:30 PM

Evening all!

Chris nice shots! Went with grandpa today to an action. We didn't buy anything. I had fun. Sadly i had my camra dand only got to hear 2 trains not see them. Theay were at Attica. Have some really crappy weather cummin' our way tommorow. Cold and snowy. Phhhht.Angry

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Posted by CShaveRR on Saturday, April 4, 2009 7:49 PM

I used to attend auctions with my dad--he got started collecting antique tools and such that way. It wasn't all boring, though--I remember getting an antique (pre-knuckle-coupler) American Flyer train and an early Erector set at this auction (it was in Zeeland, Michigan; we drive past the site often, but I don't think it's used for auctions any more).

Another dull day at work, spiced up only by the sight of UP 2001 and 2002 (the Olympic units) getting ready to take something to Rochelle. I humped a carload of frogs (that's what the sheet said--probably a switch frog or two). I commented that the car should have been a hopper ('twas a gondola); I think that was over the heads of a couple of co-workers who usually can't resist snickering at my stuff.

After working in the lovely (yeah, right!) weather tomorrow, we get to drive in it--headed toward the Quad Cities/Muscatine, Iowa, to visit my sister in their new place (they have a view of the ICE tracks through Muscatine from their house). My other sister will also be there. We also have to go to Bishop Hill, Illinois, to submit a quilt to their annual competition (Pat finished it a few weeks ago). My sisters are up for exploring the area (one of them has a van that will hold all of us), and although Galesburg isn't directly on the way, I'll try and talk them into looking it over (shouldn't be too hard--no places to eat in Bishop Hill that I can remember!). The weather isn't going to be very cooperative on Monday; I'm hoping that we'll be following the tail end of the storm home on Tuesday.

Speaking of weather, Willy and Mookie were supposed to be getting together in Lincoln today, after the weather symposium that Willy was attending. I hope it cooperated (weather, that is!).

Sorry to be remiss...welcome back, Junc!

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Posted by Modelcar on Saturday, April 4, 2009 10:05 PM

CShaveRR
I remember getting an antique (pre-knuckle-coupler) American Flyer train and an early Erector set at this auction (it was in Zeeland, Michigan; we drive past the site often, but I don't think it's used for auctions any more).

 

Boy, Carl.....I really loved to "work" with Erector sets as a youngster...Can remember building a Thru truss bridge that spanned our kitchen table. It was stable too.

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Posted by tree68 on Sunday, April 5, 2009 8:23 AM

Modelcar

CShaveRR
I remember getting an antique (pre-knuckle-coupler) American Flyer train and an early Erector set at this auction (it was in Zeeland, Michigan; we drive past the site often, but I don't think it's used for auctions any more).

 

Boy, Carl.....I really loved to "work" with Erector sets as a youngster...Can remember building a Thru truss bridge that spanned our kitchen table. It was stable too.

Alas, our Erector "set" (actually a conglomeration of several sets) was one of the things that disappeared from the house while I was in the Air Force.  Some of the items would become collectables, too.  I guess Dad wanted to get rid of my "kid" stuff.  The Marx train set disappeared, too.

I'd actually enjoy the challenge of "playing" with an old fashioned Erector set even now.

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Posted by bubbajustin on Sunday, April 5, 2009 1:28 PM

Carl,

 Glad to hear you had a relly fantastic day at work!!! (Big Smile) So you humped a set of frogs in godolas hugh? Interesting. I had a really bad 20 minuets of morning. I went to Attica today (30 mi south of Lafayette) and dad and I sat at the Attica marker sighn on the NS ROW. We sat for probably 15 minuets and my patients depribed freekin' dad got tired. So we went on (I was really upset at this point beacause I had seen that a WB train had a clear aspect.) So anyway. We went on when I saw her cummin'. Dad whipped over I turned on the camra, bailled off the moving truck in pouring rain, snapped the picture and fell face frist into a pool of watered down creasote...Dead. Well I had a really pecahey morning hugh?Tongue To make matters evan wose mom had the good camra and I had the old crappy one. It is the most grainy thing I've ever seen! Ugh...

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Posted by bubbajustin on Sunday, April 5, 2009 1:56 PM

Oh Oh Oh Oh Oh ! everyone Everyone Everyone Everyone Everone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I got a shutterfly account here is one of my pictures! My best one yet!Big Smileictures!

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Posted by CopCarSS on Sunday, April 5, 2009 3:06 PM

Nice shot, Justin. It really does a nice job of putting the train in a rural atmosphere.

I was out and about yesterday, too. The blizzard that was supposed to hit Denver Friday/Saturday kind of petered out and didn't do much but give a nice little dusting of snow. That dusting proved to be rather pretty, though, so I headed out to the Moffat Sub for some shots.

Traffic was pretty light, but I was able to get some shots.

My first shot was taken near Tunnel No. 1 of a westbound coal empty with lots of power. UP 5821 is on the point:


Next up is the westbound California Zephyr as it approaches Blue Mountain Road:

After that, I listened to the radio and found out that I had an eastbound, but he was up at Cliff. Having nothing better to do, I hung out by Blue Mountain Road and waited for hom to head down the mountain. You can see the mid-train DPUs just above and to the left of the lead unit in this shot:

By this time, I needed to start heading towards home, and so I decided to follow 6044 back into town. Here he is as he approaches the Indiana St. overpass. As with all the shots, I kept the white balance on the blue side to give a "cold" feel to the shots:

I caught him again at Simms St. and decided that a "tele-wedgie" would be the shot of choice here. I really need to use the M 135mm more often. It's an amazing lens!

And finally, here he is crossing my street. The weather isn't quite as dramatic down in the city, but I thought it would be worth the effort to shoot him one more time:

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Posted by bubbajustin on Sunday, April 5, 2009 3:16 PM

Thanks for the knd worda Chris! Youre's are way better. I like the AC4400AC's in their new scheem! I will display one more photo.

A good ol' SD70.

Maby 2 or 3 more.
Here a -8 leads a manafest outbound SB fut of the CSX yard at Lafayette.
 
 
 An NA-8 leads an inbound, NB, auto rack. Trailing is a new ES40DC
Today I had my old camra so the quality isn't real good. A -9 leads Conrail -8 north of Attica.
 
Hope you guys like em'!

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Posted by blhanel on Sunday, April 5, 2009 4:52 PM

Chris:  Re that third shot, either you didn't have the camera level, or that's a pretty steep grade in the background! Smile,Wink, & Grin  Re the last shot, I wish my street had a busy rail line crossing it.

Justin:  You've got some pretty nice shots there, keep working on it!

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Posted by bubbajustin on Sunday, April 5, 2009 4:56 PM

Thank you! Chris lives on the UP Moffat line. That is the famous curves I belive right Chris? I will keep working on my photo's.

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Posted by switch7frg on Sunday, April 5, 2009 5:46 PM

Quentin , did your E set have a motor  ? Mine had enough pieces to build a Draw Bridge and a ferris wheel , amoung other things. I wonder how many  Mech. Engineers got their carriers from those E sets ??   ~~~~~ My worm gear kept bending the bar arm to raise the bridge , don't recall if I ever figured why or how to make it work.  Thanks for the memory . Respectfully, Cannonball

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Posted by switch7frg on Sunday, April 5, 2009 6:10 PM

Chris,  absolutely!! got the feeling of cold railroading . The only thing missing in the shots is the ( burble) and the whine of the blowers . However, it don't take much to imagine that. ( Zipping up my Carhart jacket ) LOL . ~~~~ Young Justin;  you are getting a good hand at shooting trains . Good shots of CSX  in Attica .  

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Posted by bubbajustin on Sunday, April 5, 2009 6:20 PM

LOL LOL LOL!!! Laugh Thank you very mutch for te kind words, but that CSX is in Lafayette. Ns goes through Attica! Laugh So you know where Attica is hugh?

Check out my new location and signature!

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Posted by bubbajustin on Sunday, April 5, 2009 6:31 PM

Night everybody, mom is almost home and I must help her unpack.

See you tommorow!

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Posted by tree68 on Sunday, April 5, 2009 6:41 PM

bubbajustin
So you know where Attica is?

Western New York - home of the Attica & Arcade..... Still running steam...   Smile

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Posted by Modelcar on Sunday, April 5, 2009 7:50 PM

switch7frg

Quentin , did your E set have a motor  ? Mine had enough pieces to build a Draw Bridge and a ferris wheel , amoung other things. I wonder how many  Mech. Engineers got their carriers from those E sets ??   ~~~~~ My worm gear kept bending the bar arm to raise the bridge , don't recall if I ever figured why or how to make it work.  Thanks for the memory . Respectfully, Cannonball

Cannonball.........

You know, for the life of me...I can't remember right now if the set did have the electric motor....I remember it was in a pretty good size metal box.  E-Sets were a  wonderful toy....in my mind, more than a toy.  A valuable learning "toy"....Lets....see, I believe the maker was Gilbert.

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Posted by Modelcar on Sunday, April 5, 2009 7:53 PM

Chris....Really enjoyed your photos.....and yours too Justin.

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Posted by bubbajustin on Sunday, April 5, 2009 8:36 PM

He he he he!!!!! No that's not the town I live by Larry, I wish but, no. I live near Atttica Indiana. A small settltement just south of Lafayette. It is mostly single track so meets are comon at the sidings. Quintion, thanks for the kind words! Now for the last time good night! I wish I could stay up but mom refuses and I have to go to school in the morning,Sleepy and i'm a bit sleepy...Zzz See you tommorow afternoon at about 4:10 like normal!!!!!Big Smile

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Posted by CShaveRR on Monday, April 6, 2009 6:21 PM

Erector sets were made by the A. C. Gilbert Company, as were American Flyer trains.  My Erector set had an electric motor, and enough curved pieces to build a ferris wheel. 

Larry, interesting that you should mention a Marx train set:  I saw one yesterday, in pristine condition!  Actually, it was a coal train on the former IC&E, powered by UP units, consisting of exclusively gons bearing reporting marks MARX.  That's a new one on me.

I'm checking in from Muscatine, Iowa, this evening--my sister's house has a fantastic view of the ICE tracks and the Mississippi River. I also saw those KCS covered hoppers for the first time, the ones with the fancy paint scheme.  If nobody's decided to nickname these things "Belle-hopps", they should!

Gotta go--we're dining out.

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Posted by Noah Hofrichter on Monday, April 6, 2009 6:31 PM

 I haven't posted too much in the latest version of the lounge mostly because I haven't had much to say, nor the time to post it (Senior year of high school and preparing for College next fall have kept me busy). I have been reading regularly though. Today I've finally got something worth posting.

A friend called yesterday afternoon to alert me to a Wisconsin and Southern northbound train on the Reedsburg sub. Daylight trains have been rare as of late, let alone on a Sunday afternoon, so despite the fact that it was mostly cloudy I decided to see about a chase. To cut a long story short, I ended up finding the train in Rock Springs (between Baraboo and Reedsburg), where I found another surprise: an engine sitting a track by the "depot" in town and a second crew appearing to go on duty at the little office.
 
I had heard rumblings that the WSOR was going to change the operating scheme on the line around here. Instead of running one local that runs the whole length of the railroad (Madison to Reedsburg and back, which lately has resulted in the crew dying before they made it back to the yard on a regular basis), they are now switching to one train that brings the cars from Madison to Baraboo or Rock Springs, and another train that originates in Rock Springs and simply switches the industries in Reedsburg and Baraboo before tying up again. I think this is the first of these new moves, or at least one of the first.
 
First shot is of the two trains' power by the "depot." The crew of the two trains were talking things over in the office, and so they were sitting for quite a while:
 
 
Finally the 4008 and it's crew left light power and the new job's crew came out from the office and went to work. One shot of the 3801 passing the Rock Springs office was then required:
 
 
They switched out the train for about an hour to seperate out the cars they needed, and after they finally had things in order they left for Reedsburg. I shot one cloudy wedge, and then since it was cloudy I decided to try a shot on the opposite side of the bridge over highway 136 than one can normally do when it's sunny:
 
 
I did one runby at another crossing (another ho-hum cloudy wedge), and then headed to South Dewey Ave in Reedsburg for one last shot. The clouds were getting kind of ominous, and since I've shot here so many times I decided to go a little artsy:
 
 
Gotta love the track conditions around here! And the railroad just did a tie replacement project through here a little over a year ago. It appears tie replacement doesn't do much when you don't properly ballast and tamp as well though...
 
It's an interesting new job in my eyes, and it'll definitely require another chase on a sunny day. Only problem is after I do the chase once, not much will really change because the power won't rotate very often.
 
I also made a two day (well, day and a half) swing through Minneapolis and St. Paul this last weekend, and I had a chance to do a good bit of railfanning one day. I haven't gotten around to processing those photos yet, but hopefully that will come in the next few days. I'll be sure to post them when I finish.
 
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Posted by zardoz on Monday, April 6, 2009 7:54 PM

Noah,

Nice photos; I especially liked the last one.  And very interesting information.  Thanks.

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Posted by blhanel on Monday, April 6, 2009 8:45 PM

Noah Hofrichter
I also made a two day (well, day and a half) swing through Minneapolis and St. Paul this last weekend, and I had a chance to do a good bit of railfanning one day.

What areas did you visit, Noah?

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Posted by Modelcar on Monday, April 6, 2009 9:42 PM

Noah Hofrichter
Today I've finally got something worth posting.

 

Very nice clear and colorful photographs.  Agree....the track in that last photo makes one wonder how a locomotive and cars stay on the rail, no matter how slow it's traveled.

Spending Winters down in Florida {back a few years}, we used to see local action on the Florida Central near Eustis....Tavares and north a ways toward Altoona....The track was every bit as wobbly and horrible shape {as in your photo}, and they used it every day.....I never did see anything on the ground.....They would sway back and forth as it passed.

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Posted by Noah Hofrichter on Monday, April 6, 2009 9:45 PM

Thanks Zardoz and Quentin! The track up this way is pretty bad really, though they still can run over it I guess, and derailments aren't that frequent. At one crossing (a photo I didn't post) as I looked through the viewfinder I realized on the track through that area the train didn't do the usual rocking motion; it just stayed leaning in the same direction, and it wasn't a super-elevated curve either!

Brian, I mostly checked out the usual hot spots in the cities themselves; Northtown Yard, the MNNR's yard and roundhouse, and the Dayton's bluff area in St. Paul. It was a nice trip, even if it was a cloudy day, and it was good "research" for the next time I'm up in the area. Like I said, details with pictures to come later.

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Posted by CShaveRR on Tuesday, April 7, 2009 9:01 AM

Nice pictures, Noah!  That track actually looks pretty good, compared to some I've seen and/or been over.  It looks like CP is upgrading the line from Nahant southwestward, with welded rail and a few new ties.  We saw a welded-rail train go northeastward last night (and one of the buffer cars was a Santa Fe mechanical reefer--honest, I swear!).

Headed home from Muscatine today.  Haven't decided our route, though we'll hug the ICE up to Nahant before turning east.  Pat feels bad about the ratio of quilt-store purchases to trains seen yesterday, so we might be able to do some interesting stuff today. 

We did pace a train from Altona to Galesburg yesterday--saw some flagrant examples of truck hunting as the train moved at about 45 m.p.h. 

So long from (and to) Iowa!

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