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Posted by tatans on Monday, December 15, 2008 5:21 PM

Does this mean every time I see these locos I have to stop, get out of my car and salute? The only thing missing is a photo of 20 Rockettes doing a high kick.

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Posted by BaltACD on Monday, December 15, 2008 3:13 PM

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I figured teh couplers weren't allowed to be painted, nor would it last long, but would it be possible to have scraped off the rust and applied some type of finish to maintain a more metallic look than a rusty one?  Is there anything out there that keeps the rust off?  I've seen enough couplers that haven't rusted a significant amount, and I'm wondering how they resist the elements better, at least for a while.

Rust is the preservative to couplers and draft gear. 

Presuming that couplers/draft gear were painted a 'light' color, visible crack detection might even be enhanced as the dark rust line emanating from a crack would be more easily seen against the light background of the paint.  With rust being the normal color of these parts, cracks don't jump out and identify themselves as readily as they would against a light colored background.

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Posted by vsmith on Monday, December 15, 2008 3:11 PM

is this ugly?

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Posted by coborn35 on Monday, December 15, 2008 3:04 PM

 You dont understand. It would be like painting a hammer silver and then banging it against another for days on end.

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Posted by vsmith on Monday, December 15, 2008 2:44 PM

Better than the SP/SF merger Kodachrome scheme Dead

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Posted by kolechovski on Monday, December 15, 2008 2:39 PM

I figured teh couplers weren't allowed to be painted, nor would it last long, but would it be possible to have scraped off the rust and applied some type of finish to maintain a more metallic look than a rusty one?  Is there anything out there that keeps the rust off?  I've seen enough couplers that haven't rusted a significant amount, and I'm wondering how they resist the elements better, at least for a while.

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Posted by trainfan1221 on Monday, December 15, 2008 2:31 PM

This scheme was also discussed on the Locomotives forums.  I guess it's all a matter of taste.  But what is just as important is what it signifies, the Florida East Coast is indeed part of RailAmerica, which someone said it has actually been for a while now.

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Posted by nordique72 on Monday, December 15, 2008 1:49 PM

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Why is the 104 lettered "Rail America" and the others are lettered "Florida East Coast"

 Oddly enough it was a lettering mistake by Mid-America Car- all of the locomotives were supposed to be lettered "Florida East Coast"- but for some reason this one emerged with "Rail America" on the flanks. This engine was also originally painted with a silver underframe, trucks and fuel tank- which has since been fixed to basic black like the others in the order. I had read that Rail America was going to fix the lettering- apparently not though.

The lettering is not cut off on the units either- they say "Florida East Coast" and "Rail America"- the blower duct and battery boxes behind the cab obscure the rest of the lettering.

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Monday, December 15, 2008 1:23 PM

  

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Why is the 104 lettered "Rail America" and the others are lettered "Florida East Coast"?

BTW, I think they look rather spiffy.

Actually, it looks more like * ail America  and *lorida East Coast .  Does it look like there were some service doors of some type painted separately, that eliminated some lettering?

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Posted by The Butler on Monday, December 15, 2008 1:12 PM

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I also like the paint scheme.  I agree that less white could've beena  bit better.  I also don't get why the fuel tank and other lower areas are painted.  or why they have all that and rusty couplers on the locos.  They oughtta shine those suckers up.

I was told once that couplers were not allowed to be painted because the paint hides cracks and defects in the metal.

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Posted by coborn35 on Monday, December 15, 2008 1:03 PM

kolechovski

I also like the paint scheme.  I agree that less white could've beena  bit better.  I also don't get why the fuel tank and other lower areas are painted.  or why they have all that and rusty couplers on the locos.  They oughtta shine those suckers up.

 

Cant. The paint would hide defects. Not to mention the paint would be gone after one joint.

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Posted by zardoz on Monday, December 15, 2008 11:48 AM

Why is the 104 lettered "Rail America" and the others are lettered "Florida East Coast"?

BTW, I think they look rather spiffy.

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Posted by kolechovski on Monday, December 15, 2008 9:55 AM

I also like the paint scheme.  I agree that less white could've beena  bit better.  I also don't get why the fuel tank and other lower areas are painted.  or why they have all that and rusty couplers on the locos.  They oughtta shine those suckers up.

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Posted by Ulrich on Monday, December 15, 2008 9:02 AM

I like the paint scheme...very nice.

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Posted by tcwright973 on Monday, December 15, 2008 8:38 AM

Not ugly at all. I really like this paint scheme. And this company has spent an awful lot of extra money on it, what with three color, pin stripes, etc. Seems to me that's a positive thing...

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Posted by RRKen on Sunday, December 14, 2008 8:58 PM

  But what do you expect for a no-bill outfit like Rail Generica?

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Posted by CShaveRR on Sunday, December 14, 2008 8:02 PM

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I don't think the paint scheme is all that bad, really, but I'd like to see that burnt-orange-passing-for-red in person to be able to judge fairly.  -  a.s.

Basically, it's good, but it could have been so much better with just a few tweaks:

Paint colors to match the lettering colors or decal colors (lighter blue, darker red).

Less white, especially on cab.

Blue fuel tank and trucks?

 

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Posted by SchemerBob on Sunday, December 14, 2008 6:36 PM

The paint scheme itself is pretty cool, I think...BUT it's not Florida East Coast. I don't know why they couldn't have left it the way it was. Oh well, at least they decided to leave the FEC name on most of the new engines.

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Posted by CNW 6000 on Sunday, December 14, 2008 5:47 PM

Not ugly at all.  What's wrong with red, white & blue?

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Posted by al-in-chgo on Sunday, December 14, 2008 5:45 PM

I don't think the paint scheme is all that bad, really, but I'd like to see that burnt-orange-passing-for-red in person to be able to judge fairly.  -  a.s.

 

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Posted by eolafan on Sunday, December 14, 2008 4:37 PM

I totally agree with tree adn mookie...it looks good to me.

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Posted by BaltACD on Sunday, December 14, 2008 4:30 PM

Nothing can be worse than the dirty and rusted GM&O two tone maroon livery.  Don't think I have ever seen a picture of the livery clean and shiney!

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Posted by Mookie on Sunday, December 14, 2008 4:00 PM

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I dunno - they look OK to me.  In fact, I think I like the scheme better than KCS's....

I totally agree and 100% better than that pink and yellow BNSF I saw just an hour ago!

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Posted by zugmann on Sunday, December 14, 2008 3:54 PM

 Both are way too busy for me.  The KCS circus scheme look horrible when they are dirty, though.

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Posted by tree68 on Sunday, December 14, 2008 3:42 PM

I dunno - they look OK to me.  In fact, I think I like the scheme better than KCS's....

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Posted by zugmann on Sunday, December 14, 2008 3:26 PM

If you punch it in manually, it gives you the Railamerica/FEC 70m-2s. And I agree.. they look hideous.  If they would have put the red the whole way around the cab, instead of the half-finsihed look it has now, it may have been more tolerable.  And ditch the  pinstripes.  And make the white/silver band smaller.  

It's been fun.  But it isn't much fun anymore.   Signing off for now. 


  

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Posted by coborn35 on Sunday, December 14, 2008 3:23 PM

 Fixed it.

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Posted by al-in-chgo on Sunday, December 14, 2008 3:18 PM

Max, when I click the link it just throws me back into your post.  -  al s.

 

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Posted by coborn35 on Sunday, December 14, 2008 3:03 PM

 How ugly is this paint scheme?

 http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=263318

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