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3 METRA ENGINEERS SUSPENDED - LET TEEN OPERATE TRAIN

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Posted by Limitedclear on Tuesday, October 28, 2008 7:14 AM

ValleyX

That BNSF guy is having a well detailed job briefing. 

 

Good point. And here I thought he was just checking the close clearance...

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Posted by eolafan on Tuesday, October 28, 2008 7:42 AM

Awesome!

 Do you think this guy is focusing?Pirate

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Do you think that "railfan" might just get a cab "ride" if she asked for one? Hmmmmmm

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Posted by chad thomas on Tuesday, October 28, 2008 8:13 AM

 He's definately focusing WinkCool

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Posted by Ulrich on Tuesday, October 28, 2008 8:17 AM

Letting anyone other than the engineer operate the train is obviously wrong..and whoever allowed that should be reprimanded. However, there used to be some descretion for kids who wanted to have a look around or a cab ride. However back when I was a kid in the 70s it was understood that you keep your mouth shut about it so that no one gets into trouble. Even back then the rules did not permit kids on locomotives, rolling stock or railroad property. But kids were smarter I guess. I took lots of pictures of my trips...with lots of photos of personnel and equipment. But even then I was smart enough to understand that I should not circulate them as they may get someone into trouble.

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Posted by ValleyX on Tuesday, October 28, 2008 2:23 PM

Ulrich

Letting anyone other than the engineer operate the train is obviously wrong..and whoever allowed that should be reprimanded. However, there used to be some descretion for kids who wanted to have a look around or a cab ride. However back when I was a kid in the 70s it was understood that you keep your mouth shut about it so that no one gets into trouble. Even back then the rules did not permit kids on locomotives, rolling stock or railroad property. But kids were smarter I guess. I took lots of pictures of my trips...with lots of photos of personnel and equipment. But even then I was smart enough to understand that I should not circulate them as they may get someone into trouble.

But, this is the point and we know this.  You couldn't brag on MySpace.  You couldn't post a movie on YouTube.  You couldn't blog about it.  You couldn't get on a forum like this and tell everyone about your lucky day.  Different world.

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Posted by The Butler on Tuesday, October 28, 2008 4:43 PM

Unfortunately, today many people feel "if I can, I should."  Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should, right?  This kid titled one of the pictures "Stupid Metra" and then complains he won't be able to get his dream job, at Metra!  Sadly he learned that in the real world there are consequences to your actions. 

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Posted by trainfan1221 on Tuesday, October 28, 2008 4:55 PM

I agree that this is something that has probably happened before, doesn't mean its a good idea, but nowadays it is a lot easier to get things out there via the internet.  If this guy was enjoying getting to run the trains, he shoulda thought twice about putting it out there.  But its just as well it was found out because it is a dangerous thing, especially when you are dealing with people riding the trains.

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Posted by edblysard on Tuesday, October 28, 2008 6:57 PM

 

And I am sure he would love to check that clearance even closer!

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Posted by rrboomer on Tuesday, October 28, 2008 11:16 PM

edblysard

 

And I am sure he would love to check that clearance even closer!

A:     That's just the engineer watching the conductor for a sign

B:     Camouflaged efficiency test.

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Posted by Randy Stahl on Wednesday, October 29, 2008 7:22 AM

What the heck is my wife doing playing around the railroad tracks?? I thought I taught her better than that !!!

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Posted by gardendance on Wednesday, October 29, 2008 9:03 AM

In my never ending quest to keep on topic, did the teen in the original post look anything like the lady in the photo? A properly stacked jury might bring judgment for the 3 Metra engineers, depending on if the teen was properly stacked as well.

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Posted by henry6 on Wednesday, October 29, 2008 9:07 AM

gardendance

In my never ending quest to keep on topic, did the teen in the original post look anything like the lady in the photo? A properly stacked jury might bring judgment for the 3 Metra engineers, depending on if the teen was properly stacked as well.

The teen was a guy...lets not make this situtation more perverse.

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Posted by zardoz on Wednesday, October 29, 2008 10:14 AM
Take it easy you guys, or you'll start drooling on your keyboards.
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Posted by Limitedclear on Wednesday, October 29, 2008 10:40 AM

gardendance

In my never ending quest to keep on topic, did the teen in the original post look anything like the lady in the photo? A properly stacked jury might bring judgment for the 3 Metra engineers, depending on if the teen was properly stacked as well.

Define "properly stacked". Is that a legal term...??

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Posted by Limitedclear on Wednesday, October 29, 2008 10:47 AM

Randy Stahl

What the heck is my wife doing playing around the railroad tracks?? I thought I taught her better than that !!!

Randy -

Your wife the porn starlet? Wow, who knew??!

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Posted by zardoz on Wednesday, October 29, 2008 2:03 PM

Limitedclear

Randy Stahl

What the heck is my wife doing playing around the railroad tracks?? I thought I taught her better than that !!!

Randy -

Your wife the porn starlet? Wow, who knew??!

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I thought Randy was the frustrated porn star....

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Posted by henry6 on Wednesday, October 29, 2008 4:49 PM

Awesome!

 Do you think this guy is focusing?Pirate

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 "David P. Who says she should get a cab ride?"  Or,  "I'm kicking David P. out of my cab and..."..

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Posted by CopCarSS on Wednesday, October 29, 2008 6:00 PM

Photochop anyone?

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Posted by ValleyX on Wednesday, October 29, 2008 9:39 PM

CopCarSS

Photochop anyone?

 Actually, I've wondered that every since it got posted, the picture doesn't quite look natural to me.

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Posted by ValleyX on Wednesday, October 29, 2008 9:42 PM

CopCarSS

Photochop anyone?

Actually, I've wondered that every since the picture was posted, it doesn't quite look natural to me.  Proportions are off, somehow.

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Posted by Deggesty on Wednesday, October 29, 2008 10:21 PM

David P. Morgan--how many of you remember the pictures that had been recaptioned "David P. WHO wants to ride this engine?"? The two that stick in my mind are the one in which the engineer is talking on his radiophone and the one in which men with six-guns are ready to fend the Trains editor off.

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Posted by gardendance on Thursday, October 30, 2008 11:58 AM

since a couple of folks have mentioned photoshop here, I'd like to remind everybody that one possible defense is "that's not me in those hundreds of cab ride pictures, they must have been computer altered."

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Posted by CopCarSS on Thursday, October 30, 2008 1:12 PM

ValleyX

 Actually, I've wondered that every since it got posted, the picture doesn't quite look natural to me.

It's a cut above a lot of the awful photochop jobs I've seen, but this one is still definately instantly recognizable as a chop job. Even in the small thumbnail version, it's easy to see that the white balance of the lighting on the young lady doesn't match the rest of the shot. Bringing up the bigger version shows a lot of other flaws, too.

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Posted by ChuckCobleigh on Thursday, October 30, 2008 8:57 PM
CopCarSS

ValleyX

 Actually, I've wondered that every since it got posted, the picture doesn't quite look natural to me.

It's a cut above a lot of the awful photochop jobs I've seen, but this one is still definately instantly recognizable as a chop job. Even in the small thumbnail version, it's easy to see that the white balance of the lighting on the young lady doesn't match the rest of the shot. Bringing up the bigger version shows a lot of other flaws, too.

I concur that the lighting doesn't match; the contrast in the model is higher than the rest of the scene, and her key light is coming from about 40 degrees above the lens axis, while there is no corresponding shadow behind her.

On the other hand, it looks like there was some skillful application of the Liquify Tool to morph her feet and legs to uncomfortably match the rocks she is standing on. This one is definitely a cut above the average chopper, though.

BTW, the Liquify Tool is a great way to control those pesky little fat bulges and double chins that show up from time to time.

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, October 31, 2008 7:34 AM

I don't see anything about that photo that suggests that it has been doctored.  She seems intrusive to the rest of the scene, because she is.  Even that guy on the engine thinks so.

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Posted by eolafan on Friday, October 31, 2008 7:37 AM

Bucyrus

I don't see anything about that photo that suggests that it has been doctored.  She seems intrusive to the rest of the scene, because she is.  Even that guy on the engine thinks so.

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Posted by henry6 on Friday, October 31, 2008 8:07 AM

As an old editor of mine once said: put pictures of babe's, babies,and animals on the front page and you can distract anyone from the news.  So here we are debating the Photoshopping of a bikini clad lass rather than addressing a juvenile and his attending juvenile actions and engineers and their ignoring of rules in favor of sharing thier trade. 

So, my take: She looks too young...especially for David P. Whatshisname.  But my question is why did the train stop?  Did she wave?

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Posted by ValleyX on Saturday, November 1, 2008 8:59 AM
Picture doesn't look natural to me, she's up there on those rocks barefoot, it doesn't appear like it would be easy to get up there barefoot, dressed in a bikini, no less. Man standing on the engine is dressed warmly, individual visible in the background has long sleeves on, we've no idea where this is, do we? As for distraction, what can you say. The subject can be talked to death by all of us but none of us were there, it's all hearsay, innuendo, and speculation on our parts. The engineers shouldn't have let the juvenile into the cab and the juvenile should have learned from the mistakes of others who have also posted on Facebook and the like, much to their chagrin later.
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Posted by Limitedclear on Saturday, November 1, 2008 10:46 PM

Cool

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Posted by al-in-chgo on Saturday, November 1, 2008 10:57 PM

I don't get these Forums sometimes.  You can't say "***" but it's okay to show butt floss?  -  a.s.

 

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