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Posted by zugmann on Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:50 AM

 CNW 6000 wrote:
It's been said before:
This is their pond and their rules.  Swim by them or find another one is my thought.

 

But such an attitude has also closed many a forum before. Just like life - there are going to be posts people don't agree with.  I wish people just had the maturity to turn away and not go whining to the moderators if they feel "offended".   

It's been fun.  But it isn't much fun anymore.   Signing off for now. 


  

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Posted by CNW 6000 on Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:40 AM
It's been said before:
This is their pond and their rules.  Swim by them or find another one is my thought.

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Posted by Convicted One on Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:30 AM
 Bergie wrote:
 Convicted One wrote:

Which touches upon somthing I've been chewing on for sometime...most folks likely feel similarly, moderation is by and large a thankless chore,,,for EVERYONE ...except those hoping to advance some sort of agenda. Makes you wonder

Make you wonder what? Why you spend time theorizing such ludicrous notions?

Honestly, do you really think I'd let one of my moderators push their personal agenda? My only agenda is to make sure this forum remains a positive place for people of all walks of life to discuss railroading. Think about this thread and what it'll do to someone who is just visiting for the first time. Do you think they're going to jump into the conversation?

Banged Head [banghead] Bergie

 

Actually,  in my original post, the paragraph you quoted was preceeded by "off topic, but I'd decline if asked. I've been a forum host before, as well as moderating the forums of others...and the enjoyment of participation was immediately lost for me. " And the concept of motivated moderators who put up with the hassles in exchange for the privilege of pushing their POV  (on various hot button issues) onto others,  pertains primarily to other forums I've participated in.

The  periodic yet ongoing waiver of your prohibitions against  posts of a religious nature, where you bend and allow various members to post about prayer and faith  (please pray for my pa-pa, etc etc) might be an example, however, of an agenda being pushed, via differential tolerance.

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Posted by eolafan on Thursday, July 10, 2008 8:06 AM
Throwing Up This entire thread is making me sick!
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Posted by tree68 on Thursday, July 10, 2008 7:51 AM
It occurs to me that this is a classic example of depending on whose ox is gored....

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Posted by zardoz on Thursday, July 10, 2008 7:07 AM
 sfcouple wrote:

However, with sophisticated software, someone could probably find my exact street address and what I had for breakfast this morning. 

Yes, indeed; Big Brother is watching (and recording).

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Posted by edblysard on Thursday, July 10, 2008 6:56 AM

Dale,

Check your PMs.

 nanaimo73 wrote:

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Posted by csxengineer98 on Thursday, July 10, 2008 2:29 AM

i only wave to kids and hot women...

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Posted by edblysard on Wednesday, July 9, 2008 11:25 PM

Can you "Plug "em" the same way?

 

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Posted by erikem on Wednesday, July 9, 2008 11:02 PM

 zugmann wrote:
If the dynamic IPs dont hold up.. do you resort to the air IPs?

What about the regenerative IP's???

Good play on dynamic. 

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Posted by sfcouple on Wednesday, July 9, 2008 8:55 PM

 chad thomas wrote:
In the DOS shell the command IPCONFIG/RENEW will change your ip too (that is if it's dynamic, most providers require extra money for a static ip.

Thanks for the info, I'm currently using Vista and shutter at the thought of going to the DOS prompt. I'm afraid my pc would never recover....Smile [:)]

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Posted by chad thomas on Wednesday, July 9, 2008 8:32 PM
In the DOS shell the command IPCONFIG/RENEW will change your ip too (that is if it's dynamic, most providers require extra money for a static ip.
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Posted by sfcouple on Wednesday, July 9, 2008 8:27 PM

Dynamic IPs "hold up" so to speak until the user logs off and/or shuts down the PC.  After logging back on a new dynamic IP is assisgned to that user.  Right now I'm physically located in San Francisco but my dymanic IP has me in San Jose, 50 miles south of here.  My dynamic IP address changes daily and is automatically assigned by my internet provider.  However, with sophisticated software, someone could probably find my exact street address and what I had for breakfast this morning. 

 

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Posted by zugmann on Wednesday, July 9, 2008 8:05 PM
If the dynamic IPs dont hold up.. do you resort to the air IPs?

It's been fun.  But it isn't much fun anymore.   Signing off for now. 


  

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Posted by sfcouple on Wednesday, July 9, 2008 8:03 PM

 CNW 6000 wrote:
Or if they have a dynamic IP as some folks do.

Dan,

Even with dynamic IP addresses a specific geographical area can still be determined.  Here is an interesting link that demonstrates this capability:

http://www.lawrencegoetz.com/programs/ipinfo/   

Wayne

 

 

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Posted by tstage on Wednesday, July 9, 2008 7:43 PM

And, on that note, I think Tharmeni has a wonderful suggestionCan we move on?

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Posted by wsherrick on Wednesday, July 9, 2008 7:35 PM

 Norman Saxon wrote:
Okay, permission to lock!  Although I would like to know why Dale thought I was Michael.......Confused [%-)]

I don't believe there was any identity confusion.  I was a poor attempt to make a joke at you and Michael Sol's expense.

Don't be overly upset.  You are one of the handful of posters here that have anything productive to add when the rare topic of any real interest shows itself. You have the dubious honor of being attacked because of it. 

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Posted by selector on Wednesday, July 9, 2008 7:27 PM

I am doing my best to keep this thread alive, dubious though it is in my view.  I have deleted a number of posts, the intent of which were to impugn one of the members, and which I feel were a directed and offensive attack.  Regrettably, as Bergie pointed out, by doing the deleting I have necessarily deleted posts of innocents who were dealing with the subject honourably...the daughter posts that automatically get deleted if the responder used the "reply to post" function in the message that I deleted.  I can't help it.  But perhaps it will serve to illustrate what he meant in his reply earlier for those who have been following.  It really muddles things that come afterward.

I think I can speak for Bergie when I say that users who provoke others with inappropriate comments can expect to have their priviliges suspended temporarily or revoked permanently if they repeat the behaviour after private warnings to desist.

Bergie has given you an answer. 

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Posted by Norman Saxon on Wednesday, July 9, 2008 7:20 PM
Okay, permission to lock!  Although I would like to know why Dale thought I was Michael.......Confused [%-)]
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Posted by Norman Saxon on Wednesday, July 9, 2008 7:17 PM
 nanaimo73 wrote:

Bergie,

Can you compare MichaelSol's and Norman Saxon's IP address?
They appear to be the same person.

Just out of curiosity, why would you think something like that?

PS - I think you offended Michael with that one!  You really should apologize.Bow [bow]

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Posted by Tharmeni on Wednesday, July 9, 2008 7:10 PM
Ok, this thread now has nothing to do with railroading and folks are only going to get more angry and insulted which is not the intent of this forum.  Fellas, can we just knock it off and get on with railfanning?
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Posted by Norman Saxon on Wednesday, July 9, 2008 7:05 PM
 Willy2 wrote:

Norman -

I believe that Ed's first post in that thread was merely making a suggestion, not trying to be mean or insulting.

Excuse me, but what kind of gall does someone have to have to suggest renaming a topic when in fact the chosen topic title aptly followed the title and content of the article in question?  Frankly I found his initial post rather condescending.  Then he goes off slandering a former member (yes, I checked past posts by both edblysard and futuremodal), basically the pot calling the kettle black.

Is this the same edblysard who has in the past penned for TRAINS magazine?  If you ask me they are two completely different people, just based on what I've seen here so far.  My two cents.

 

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Posted by MichaelSol on Wednesday, July 9, 2008 6:50 PM
 tstage wrote:

Dale,

I checked.  They are not the same person.

Tom

Why did you check? And what did you find?

 

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Posted by RRKen on Wednesday, July 9, 2008 6:27 PM
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Posted by edblysard on Wednesday, July 9, 2008 5:49 PM

Was wonder about that...we keep getting NS Dash9s with the right side mirror missing...

But I bet their switchmen dont have a single hair out of place...Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by Mookie on Wednesday, July 9, 2008 5:40 PM
 edblysard wrote:

Wow,

You speak Wabash?

So, ask him what he did with the mirror....Wink [;)]

I should post a disclaimer that I only have the utmost respect for Wabash. 

And I think he gave the mirror to his switch foreman....

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Posted by MichaelSol on Wednesday, July 9, 2008 5:30 PM
 nanaimo73 wrote:

Bergie,

Can you compare MichaelSol's and Norman Saxon's IP address?
They appear to be the same person.

This is offensive.

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Posted by edblysard on Wednesday, July 9, 2008 5:25 PM

Wow,

You speak Wabash?

So, ask him what he did with the mirror....Wink [;)]

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Posted by Mookie on Wednesday, July 9, 2008 5:21 PM

What I got out of his posting:

He said a moderator ruled against him and for a friend.  That wasn't fair.  He doesn't think people that don't work for a railroad and learned things out of a book should express things as facts, when they aren't.  He will give you facts and while he is a little rough around the edges, he still knows his railroading.  He tries not to be vulgar, but people should have a little thicker hide about some things

I don't think he suffers fools lightly! 

I hope I got that right, Wabash.  

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Posted by selector on Wednesday, July 9, 2008 5:10 PM

I have to agree, wabash1.  I can't make a lot of sense of what you posted.   Would you please take another crack at it?  Maybe some specifics if it will build a case for what I think you are saying.

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