Brian,
I love guessing more than making up questions, go ahead.
Al,
CRS is airline speak for Computer Reservation System. The fastest trips are displayed first.
blhanel wrote:If rrnut doesn't have one, I've got an interesting question related to the previous one that will have members shaking their heads when they hear the answer...
Heck, I shake my head just reading most of the questions!
Thanks to Chris / CopCarSS for my avatar.
al-in-chgo wrote: rrnut282 wrote: I'll say 3hrs 55 minutes to just beat the four hours so it appears on the first CRS screen. OOPS wrong transportation mode, wrong era. I'm not quite sure what your abbreviation "CRS" as in "CRS screen" means. In my day, pre-Internet, "CRS" stood for a syndrome I had and still have: "Can't Remember S[tuff]." Do you mean instead, that you knew you'd get to be at the head of this page, no. 31, of the Quiz? At any rate, YES! You are the winner. Scheduled departure of NB PRR (NYNH&H) no. 170, "The Colonial," sked. arr. at NY/Penn 10:55 a.m.** Just under four hours to travel 226.6 miles; if my math is correct the run averaged 57.85 mph -- not blindingly fast for varnish hauled by a GG-1. (And the only faster scheduled runs for that line come in at only five or ten minutes earlier.) Consider that in that era, the IC Chgo - Champaign "corridor" haul as well as (then) CN Montreal - Toronto trains averaged above 60 mph, and they were both hauled by diesel-electrics. __________________________________ ** Source Authority: Official Guide of the Railways, March 1967, p. 119. So take it away, "rrnut"! - a.s.
rrnut282 wrote: I'll say 3hrs 55 minutes to just beat the four hours so it appears on the first CRS screen. OOPS wrong transportation mode, wrong era.
I'll say 3hrs 55 minutes to just beat the four hours so it appears on the first CRS screen.
OOPS wrong transportation mode, wrong era.
I'm not quite sure what your abbreviation "CRS" as in "CRS screen" means. In my day, pre-Internet, "CRS" stood for a syndrome I had and still have: "Can't Remember S[tuff]." Do you mean instead, that you knew you'd get to be at the head of this page, no. 31, of the Quiz?
At any rate, YES! You are the winner. Scheduled departure of NB PRR (NYNH&H) no. 170, "The Colonial," sked. arr. at NY/Penn 10:55 a.m.** Just under four hours to travel 226.6 miles; if my math is correct the run averaged 57.85 mph -- not blindingly fast for varnish hauled by a GG-1. (And the only faster scheduled runs for that line come in at only five or ten minutes earlier.) Consider that in that era, the IC Chgo - Champaign "corridor" haul as well as (then) CN Montreal - Toronto trains averaged above 60 mph, and they were both hauled by diesel-electrics.
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** Source Authority: Official Guide of the Railways, March 1967, p. 119.
So take it away, "rrnut"! - a.s.
Little know fact: The PRR corridor was only good for 80 mph! (never mind I clocked GG1s at 90+ time and time again) Metroliners were allowed faster and the NECIP (phase 1) plus AEM7s raised the speeds for all trains.
-Don (Random stuff, mostly about trains - what else? http://blerfblog.blogspot.com/)
Brian (IA) http://blhanel.rrpicturearchives.net.
At any rate, YES! You are the winner. Scheduled departure of NB PRR (NYNH&H) no. 170, "The Colonial, 7:00 a.m.," sked. arr. at NY/Penn 10:55 a.m.** Just under four hours to travel 226.6 miles; if my math is correct the run averaged 57.85 mph -- not blindingly fast for varnish hauled by a GG-1. (And the only faster scheduled runs for that line come in at only five or ten minutes earlier.) Consider that in that era, the IC Chgo - Champaign "corridor" haul as well as (then) CN Montreal - Toronto trains averaged above 60 mph, and they were both hauled by diesel-electrics.
3 hours and 50 minutes arriving Penn Station at 10:50 am.
Mark
blhanel wrote:Alright, I'll adjust my estimate to 3 hours 45 minutes.
OOPS! I have to thank you all for phrasing your answers as elapsed time, not clock time. I discovered late yesterday (and have amended the original question accordingly) that NB PRR train no. 170, the Colonial, was scheduled to depart D.C./Union Station at 7:00 a.m. each day, not 10:00 a.m. as previously stated.
It hasn't made any material difference, but of course I want to set the record straight .
^^^Brian, you're a little too low but yours is the most accurate answer to date. - a.s. ^^^
ShopsYardMaster wrote:I'll go with 4 hrs even.
Sorry, Dude, you're over the limit. Your best stragegy now is to sit tight and not make any more bids -- I can let slip that you could win anyway depending on circumstances.
Your virtual "consolation prize" is that you can research the answer if you promise not to share it with anyone else -- and as said, don't post any more; it's not in your best interests anyway. - a.s.
If you get really frustrated, feel free to PM me. But I doubt I'll see any posts before late tomorrow (Friday) morning.
Even though both of you are on the conservative side, you're heading in the right direction. IOW your two first "guesstimates" are a good pushing-off area.
Keep playin'! Anyone else want to join the fun? (Please read the rules in my first post of this question above, esp. below where the question is put down.) a. s.
snagletooth wrote:Neat, 2 for something or other. And by a nose hair. I don't have a question right now, so if anyone wants to pop one up to keep things rollin', go ahead. I'll keep thinking of one in the meantime.
Just happened to stumble on this thread just now, but I guess 12 hrs. is enuf. Here's another of my queries for good guessers and, I hope even more so, for knowledgeable good guessers:
According to the March, 1967, Official Guide of the Railways," in PRR passenger timetables, NB passenger train no. 170, "The Colonial," ran daily from Wash. D.C. (Union) to Boston (South) via New York (Penna), sched. dep. from D.C. 10:00 a.m. 7:00 a.m.* It was operated by PRR to NY and then New Haven timetable shows the run up to Beantown under the same number, 170. Consist listed in addition to coaches specifically states that it includes [at least under Pennsy's operation] "Parlor Car, Parlor Car Lounge, Snack Bar Coach (Hot-Cold Food and Beverages)." It's probably safe to assume it was normally hauled by a GG-1, at least part of the way (pls advise if I'm wrong). *[Oops! My mistake. But it hasn't made a material difference thus far, as the times given have been elapsed times, not time of day. - a.s.]
QUESTION: According to the O.G.R., what was the scheduled arrival time of this train, NB daily Train no. 170, at Pennsylvania Station in New York?
TWO SMALL HINTS: (a) the Metroliners were not running yet, and the running time of this train is very similar to other PRR runs daily departing DC for NY/Penn or beyond -- in many cases the same elapsed time or a five- or ten-minute scheduled difference.
(b) [more of a reminder than a hint]: Mileage given between D.C. Union and NYC/Penna is 226.6 miles.
Answer, please, should be phrased as hours and minutes. E.g.: "Two hours and five minutes" but of course that's way too low.
Also, if you go over -- give too many hrs. and mins. -- that's grounds for disqualification. (Occasionally an overestimator can win, though, esp. if s/he is REALLY close to the right answer and those estimates beneath correct answer are REALLY off.) But if you overguess, even by a minute, you are not supposed to post again.
Otherwise, please feel free to guess more than once. However, I will not be monitoring this thread for hours at a time or for 18-hour days (unlike some of my prior excesses!).
Lastly, as always, don't research, neither HC nor online.
All aboard the nostalgia train! If I have enuf 1967 dollars, I'll take a Parlor Car (just missed it in real life, ). - al smalling
Good job, Snaggle. Now you are two for nine?
Got a question for us?
snagletooth wrote: "Iowa, The Gateway to Nebraska!" - I'm sorry, that's not a guess, just an old family joke......... gateway to NEBRASKA! ...ooh boy, I'll get it under control..hang on a second....... OK, I think I got it under control now..hahaha.Wow, Okay. Was it a buffalo?
"Iowa, The Gateway to Nebraska!" -
I'm sorry, that's not a guess, just an old family joke...
...... gateway to NEBRASKA! ...ooh boy, I'll get it under control..hang on a second....... OK, I think I got it under control now..hahaha.
Wow, Okay. Was it a buffalo?
I'll accept that and give it to Snaggletooth. It was a Buffalo head, like Nanaimo said was on a Trains cover. I don't have that issue, but I would guess that buffalo head is the one in question.
Jeff
-ChrisWest Chicago, ILChristopher May Fine Art Photography"In wisdom gathered over time I have found that every experience is a form of exploration." ~Ansel Adams
snagletooth wrote: Wow, Okay. Was it a buffalo?
Was that a guess? There is a picture of the large buffalo head in the May 1969 Golden Spike issue of Trains.
Sorry Brian, but a good guess.
Well, if you all insist. I have another question involving a bridge. This time we are on the west side of Iowa, at Council Bluffs/Omaha, NE. At one time on the Union Pacific bridge there was a statue/figure, made out of bronze IIRC, on the Iowa side over the tracks. This figure simbolized the gateway to the West. It was removed during WWII and melted down for the war effort. What was this figure?
Hint: It wasn't an Arch.
CShaveRR wrote: Murphy Siding wrote: Well, I'm not Jeff, but I *did* sleep at a Holiday Inn last night! Keeping things rolling: What were the top five ALCO/MLW diesels, based on numbers produced? I think it should be Jeff's turn again, if he's available.
Murphy Siding wrote: Well, I'm not Jeff, but I *did* sleep at a Holiday Inn last night! Keeping things rolling: What were the top five ALCO/MLW diesels, based on numbers produced?
Keeping things rolling:
What were the top five ALCO/MLW diesels, based on numbers produced?
I think it should be Jeff's turn again, if he's available.
I agree.
Carl
Railroader Emeritus (practiced railroading for 46 years--and in 2010 I finally got it right!)
CAACSCOCOM--I don't want to behave improperly, so I just won't behave at all. (SM)
Thanks.
I don't have another question. Anyone else have one?
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