nanaimo73 wrote:Didn't they bring back the Flexi name, taken from the NYC Flexi Van?
...no, but warmer!
-Don (Random stuff, mostly about trains - what else? http://blerfblog.blogspot.com/)
Was it a bird (no, that's CNW).
Was it a train?
Was it Supervan?
Carl
Railroader Emeritus (practiced railroading for 46 years--and in 2010 I finally got it right!)
CAACSCOCOM--I don't want to behave improperly, so I just won't behave at all. (SM)
CShaveRR wrote: Was it a bird (no, that's CNW).Was it a train?Was it Supervan?
We have a winner!
All the premium TV trains were resymbolled SV for about half a year. Ultimately, it was more confusing than helpful and it was dropped.
The NYC Supervan trains were trains carrying Flexivans (and some TOFC, too).
You're up, Carl!
CShaveRR wrote:I've got something, but it will have to wait until after work. Please bear with me (I say that a lot at work, too--not!).
Sounds good Carl. I hope you don't mind if I ask a filler question until yours is ready.
When Amtrak began in 1971, they used a number of large older stations in major cities, which they pulled out of later for various reasons. This question deals with 5 stations which were abandoned before 1980. Which station did Amtrak leave first out of these 5?
St. Louis Union StationHouston Union StationChicago Central TerminalCleveland Union TerminalBuffalo Central Terminal
Another short question,What is/was the longest (route miles) American railroad which existed or still exists, which Amtrak has not operated on on a scheduled route?
nanaimo73 wrote: Another short question,What is/was the longest (route miles) American railroad which existed or still exists, which Amtrak has not operated on on a scheduled route?
Thanks to Chris / CopCarSS for my avatar.
passengerfan wrote:Could it be Montana Rail Link and was it Cleveland Union Terminal.
Yes, it was Cleveland Union Terminal, used until December 26, 1971, by the Lake Shore.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleveland_Union_Terminal
Next was Chicago Central Terminal, which the City of New Orleans used until March 6, 1972.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Station_%28Chicago_terminal%29
Houston Union Station lasted until the Lone Star was cancelled, on July 31, 1974.http://www.kingswayrc.com/gcst/union/union.htm
St. Louis Union Station saw the Inter-American depart on October 31, 1978.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_Station_(St._Louis)
Buffalo Central Terminal was used by the Lake Shore Limited until October 28, 1979.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffalo_Central_Terminal
The other question involves a railroad which was several times the length of MRL.
nanaimo73 wrote: The other question involves a railroad which was several times the length of MRL.
TrainManTy wrote:Still exsists? FEC maybe?
I should have worded this part better- "railroad which existed or still exists"The answer I'm looking for is a fallen flag.
Brian (IA) http://blhanel.rrpicturearchives.net.
blhanel wrote:C&NW?
Good work Brian. I believe C&NW has never been used by Amtrak on a regular basis. CRI&P and SLSF are two others.
Where is Carl? Are they making him work 12 hour days?
No, not twelve--found out that there were some domestic chores that required doing, and this particular question will take a long time to formulate--it's 4:45 Central Time as I get started.
Okay. There's this train. It has three typical UP locomotives for power: numbers 3054, 3097, and 9059.
Since it's moving slowly, I take note of a few car numbers. And when I realize what's happening, I start to write all of them down. Since I'm not looking at what I'm writing on, the order gets mixed up a little, but that's not important. The numbers themselves, however, are:
TFM 21015
ATW 8230
KCS 60148
EPRY 579
ALAB 32625
HPJX 90034
CHTT 6591
FCCM 172088
IHB 6030
SIRX 96376
MMA 165
CHTT 642120
GCCX 73126
RCLX 169320
CRIX 173009
NAHX 172432
GCCX 174695
AOK 182111
RRRX 182997
KRL 48013
HPJX 59000
NRLX 225
AOK 350555
WW 4101
NOKL 818976
WSSX 1019
KO 834243
As I continued to take down these numbers, I couldn't believe what was happening. It brought a tear to my eye, and for once I wished I had a camera with me, because nobody would believe this.
Oh, all right--the train itself is a total fabrication, but the car numbers are not--I'm pretty sure all of these are still in existence. There is an assortment of cars here--box cars, gons, flats, covered hoppers, RBLs, even a depressed-center flat. What is there in this list that would turn on the waterworks for me?
nanaimo73 wrote: What is/was the longest (route miles) American railroad which existed or still exists, which Amtrak has not operated on on a scheduled route?
What is/was the longest (route miles) American railroad which existed or still exists, which Amtrak has not operated on on a scheduled route?
Definitely KCS if the KCSdeM is included which after all is an American railroad. Very possibly the KCS even if the Mexican lines are excluded.
Mark
ShopsYardMaster wrote:With the exception of the KCS and TFM, all the other cars are private owners(the X cars) or shortlines/regionals?
Not quite--keep in mind that CHTT is a UP reporting mark. As a freight car freak, I wouldn't get excited about a collection of shortline/regional/private freight cars unless there was some significance to the particular cars.
Further hint: at one time I might have been able to add some WC numbers to this list, but I don't think so any more.
-ChrisWest Chicago, ILChristopher May Fine Art Photography"In wisdom gathered over time I have found that every experience is a form of exploration." ~Ansel Adams
What is there in this list that would turn on the waterworks for me?
A long lost shortline? Something to do with Michigan?
How about that KRL car?
CopCarSS wrote:I'll take a shot in the dark: Have these cars had previous lives on another railroad that was near and dear to your heart, Carl?
Every last one of 'em, Chris! Name the railroad, and I'll give it to you.
CShaveRR wrote: CopCarSS wrote:I'll take a shot in the dark: Have these cars had previous lives on another railroad that was near and dear to your heart, Carl?Every last one of 'em, Chris! Name the railroad, and I'll give it to you.
CShaveRR wrote:Every last one of 'em, Chris! Name the railroad, and I'll give it to you.
Another shot in the dark: C&O?
Norris, PM disappeared over 50 years ago, and there's no former equipment in active service.
Chris had the right idea, Norris has the right railroad. Now what--a question apiece?
CShaveRR wrote: Norris, PM disappeared over 50 years ago, and there's no former equipment in active service. Chris had the right idea, Norris has the right railroad. Now what--a question apiece?
Oh, all right! Everything on my fictitious train--including the locomotives--had Chicago & North Western in its pedigree. As I pointed out when posing the question, all of these cars are still in existence, or were in very recent times (that is what ruled out PM, Norris). Some cars kept their same numbers and paint scheme, others were rebuilt to the point of unrecognizability. But I could identify all of them by series, and many, if not most, of them by their former CNW number.
One exception to that: EPRY 579 was formerly lettered CGW 579.
I think Chris has to get some credit for seeing what I was up to, even if he didn't get the right railroad. And Norris, even though he later changed his mind, had the railroad right.
This thread has been dark for nearly two whole days, so I thought I'd post something that I hope is a little easier:
Most of you remember or have heard of a surprise crash in the Fifties when a GG-1 locomotive crashed into Washington Union Station. The loco, with cars still attached, crashed into the waiting room and then crashed through the waiting room's floor.
QUESTION: What event of national importance took place just five days after the GG-1's crash into Union Station?
Remember: No Researching! Thanks, al s.
Yet another shot in the dark, knowing the general era of the crash. Here are my guesses:
D-Day
End of WW2
Something like that?
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