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SD9 as yard switcher?

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, December 18, 2003 4:24 PM
Yes, the "30" in GP30 was a sales gimmick, a GP"22" just didn't sound as powerful as a General Electric U"25"B. From the GP30 on, EMD used a simple number progression through the models. This progression usually went by fives or tens (30-35-40(-2)-45-50-60). EMD used a "38" for the 2000hp 645 engined GP38(-2)'s and SD38(-2) to make it clear that the 38-models were a non-turbo (less h.p.) version of the GP/SD40(-2) models. Where as if you said maybe a "GP45", naturally you would assume that it was a more powerful model. The "nines" models were generally used for expierimental, and custom/"special needs" models like the GP49 and GP59 (the GP39(-2) is an exception), other expierimental models had an X added to their designation (ex. GP40X, SD40X, SD45X). The GP/SD39(-2) used a "39" designation to indicate that it was more powerful than the GP/SD38(-2), but still not as powerful as the GP/SD40(-2) as the 39 series only had 2300hp. Another fact, the GP/SD28's (very, very few produced) are actually just a non-turbo version of the GP/SD35 as it used an 1800hp 16-567D1 for power. Is that enough info for ya'll?[}:)][:)][:D][8D][;)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, December 18, 2003 7:10 PM
ghighland-

The 6 axle CNW unit that you saw at the NFDL yard was the southbound run-through. At the time that FRV existed, the CNW still had trackage north of Green Bay into Upper Michigan(ore lines). The CNW route up the Lakeshore through Manitowoc was embargoed north of Sheboygan, so they used the Valley route to get up there. The run-throughs used CNW, FRV, run-through units from other roads to pay back motive power hours, and leased units from various sources. HTH[8D]
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Posted by eolafan on Friday, December 19, 2003 8:15 AM
You never can tell what you will see these days. I have seen GP-9 and SD-9 units in switching service on BNSF and just last weekend saw two SD-9's along with a Dash-9 on an intermodal out of Chicago...go figure. Guess whatever is available and will get the good to their destination without breaking down will work. Jim
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Posted by f14aplusfl on Friday, December 19, 2003 9:00 AM
Yeah sure. Whatever works. Another thing, its your model rialroad where you can do pretty much whatever you want. On mine (no era, locale, or scenery chosen.... i.e. need to graduate from college first!) Ithe only true switcher I have is a Great Northern 0-6-0! I've used GPs, f units, and a M363 I think... its a model of one of those MLW built Alco for Canadian Pacific. Whatever is handy.... including a GG1. man that one pulls one long cut of cars. Wi***ehy still had them in real life whizzing by with 14 or so cars like tis nothing. And they are a lot prettier than their modern day replacements... even witha cut of old heavyweights.
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Posted by JoeKoh on Friday, December 19, 2003 9:05 AM
The Maumee & western uses an old f 7 covered wagon with a a geep looking hood (thanks ed) and rebuilt gp11s.Csx uses gp 38-2s and sd 40s or whatever they can get their hands on.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, December 19, 2003 4:14 PM
rebelfdl -

Man, this makes me feel REAL guilty about not trying to learn more about the WC/FRV
operations while I lived there in the Fox River Valley! I just loved watching the action,
and was too busy otherwise to learn about the operations.

Now - since you are definitely up to speed on that area - while I lived in the apartments
in Oshkosh, right at the crossing of Hwy. 21 and the ex-CNW Hortonville line that
roughly paralleled Hwy. 110 northwest, I'd see a slow-moving FRV train heading north
around 11 AM on weekdays. It had passed behind the Rockwell plant and through the
UW-O campus (my alma mater). The tracks have since been paved over at the
crossing and probably ripped-up by now. The tracks bent-around back to the north and
crossed Hwy. 110 on the otherside of Riverside Cemetary - where they curved back
towards 110 I believe is where a switch existed (maybe a wye?) where the line also
continued on towards Hortonville.

I've been curious for a long time now what business those trains had on that stretch
of trackage. I believe it eventually connected-back to the ex-CNW main north of town
and I never saw the train coming the other direction (south).
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, December 19, 2003 7:17 PM
ghighland-

Boy, ya got me on that one! I remember the track to Rockwell and through the campus, but have no idea where it went beyond there. The Hortonville line hasn't been used much since WC/FRV days, and I believe most if not all of it is torn up now, except for the industrial park on the north end of town. I used to check out that area when I was working up there(construction) but haven't checked it out lately. Sorry.
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Posted by caldreamer on Thursday, November 4, 2021 9:06 PM

Did any railroad ever have SD9B units?  I have an SD9B unit shell that I kitbashed and I am wondering if they existed on any actual railroad.

                      

 

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Posted by SD70Dude on Thursday, November 4, 2021 9:37 PM

Did EMD build any new SD B-units besides the 45 SD24Bs for Union Pacific?

Several railroads rebuilt wreck damaged SD40s and SD45s (or their Dash-2 counterparts) as cabless B-units, but I'm not aware of this being done to any SD7s or SD9s.

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Saturday, November 6, 2021 10:12 AM

Burlington Northern rebuilt a batch of SD9's into slugs but their appearance changed dramatically in the conversion.

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Posted by rrnut282 on Saturday, November 6, 2021 12:09 PM

caldreamer

Did any railroad ever have SD9B units?  I have an SD9B unit shell that I kitbashed and I am wondering if they existed on any actual railroad.

                      

 

 

IINM both UP & SP both bought SD-9bs new from EMD.  Maybe PRR, too.

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Posted by 7j43k on Saturday, November 6, 2021 2:45 PM

rrnut282

 

 
caldreamer

Did any railroad ever have SD9B units?  I have an SD9B unit shell that I kitbashed and I am wondering if they existed on any actual railroad.

                      

 

 

 

 

IINM both UP & SP both bought SD-9bs new from EMD.  Maybe PRR, too.

 

 

Nope.

UP and PRR did buy GP9B's.

 

 

Ed

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