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Road Railers vs. Containers/trailers on flat car

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Posted by dwil89 on Thursday, August 25, 2005 3:56 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Modelcar

....But then I assume from your conversation Dave, never pushing....up around the Curve.
That is correct....The Helpers on Roadrailers would be added to the head end, not the rear....most of the time, they'll run without need of a helper.....Dave Williams @ nsaltoonajohnstown@yahoogroups.com
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Posted by dwil89 on Thursday, August 25, 2005 4:04 PM
Here is a link to the Triple Crown Company, which may provide some insight into its operations. www.triplecrownsvc.com Dave Williams @ nsaltoonajohnstown@yahoogroups.com
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 25, 2005 7:08 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Modelcar

Futuremodel: That I really don't know.....I simply have counted up to 140 trailers at times when I've watched the train headed south. 2 6-axle engines up front running the show....I don't know what their limit may be in length of consist.....


We can guestimate the length of 140 trailers, assume they're all 53's, that's about 7500'. How long are the NS sidings in your area?

Regarding possible push operations, I spoke with the VP of Sales at RailRunner, and he infered that RailRunner chassis can handle push-pull with DPU's (that was one of the things we proposed for the aborted BNSF Stampede Pass service). Of course, RailRunners use the dual tongue bogies which allow longitudinal forces to flow freely through the consist, that's why RailRunners can be set up facing forward or backwards. RoadRailers use the "elephant-style" tongue on trailer connection, with the lead trailer resting its tailgate on the bogie. There may be a problem with pushing behind such a setup, maybe a rearward force could concievably push a trailer forward off the bogie.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 30, 2005 12:29 AM
Anyone got a picture of a Road Railer?
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Posted by Modelcar on Tuesday, August 30, 2005 8:36 AM
...Check dwil89 post above for info on triple crown...
Futuremodal: Sorry, just saw the question on your post....But I really can't help on how long are the sidings in this area..{Muncie, In.}....I'd say some are not the 7500' length just by estimating by looking at them....

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Posted by oltmannd on Tuesday, August 30, 2005 10:33 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by smalling_60626

Anyone got a picture of a Road Railer?


Try this: http://www.triplecrownsvc.com/Bimodal.html

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Posted by MP173 on Tuesday, August 30, 2005 1:36 PM
Thru NW Indiana there are three TC's:

261 WB to Chicago (6-8AM)
262 EB from Chicago (8pm)
264 WB to Chicago (6-8Am)

I am not sure why they dont combine 261/264 unless there is tight deliveries to be made at Ford in Chicago.

Most of these TC trains are not that big. The 261 - 264 's usually are 20 to 50 trailers.

ed

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