QUOTE: Originally posted by sooblue Who said "you can't find a cop when you need him"? What % of all accidents are unnecessary Derrick? (off the top of your head)
QUOTE: Originally posted by missouri So your saying a cop useing a police radio while driveing is breaking the law? About the first rule in the MUTCD is that the traffic control device has to DEMAND attention. Apparently it didn't do its job and maybe some advance flashing red lights should be installed. Light the area up like a Christmas tree if need be. No wonder 42,000 people were killed last year on the highways.
QUOTE: Originally posted by missouri I look at it as the railroads either do it or go to jail for negligient homicide like any other business owner. It's their trains. Like these politicans who didn't do their jobs to start with standing around getting medals for getting the kids killed to start with. Then the low life railroads comeing in and chargeing 1/4 a million when the gates can be bought for 40K all day long.
QUOTE: Originally posted by dekemd QUOTE: Originally posted by missouri I look at it as the railroads either do it or go to jail for negligient homicide like any other business owner. It's their trains. Like these politicans who didn't do their jobs to start with standing around getting medals for getting the kids killed to start with. Then the low life railroads comeing in and chargeing 1/4 a million when the gates can be bought for 40K all day long. Yes, it's the railroads train. The motor vehicle belongs the driver. Why not charge the driver of the car with negligent homicide? The driver was negligent in not yielding right of way. You like to copy and paste, here's one for you. NS Collision with Log Truck Kills Driver, Slightly Injures Crew The driver of a logging truck was killed Tuesday when he pulled into the path of a freight train at a remote crossing on a private road in southern Charlton County, Georgia, authorities said. Both crewmen aboard the Norfolk Southern train consisting of two locomotives pulling 60 cars sustained minor injuries in the collision, said Trooper 1st Class Chad Woods of the Georgia State Patrol, lead investigator in the accident. The truck driver died about 08:00 EDT at the scene of the collision, a railroad crossing on Rayonier Road No. 25 between Moniac and St. George, Woods said. The train didn't derail, although its locomotives received major damage. Its crew, Robert Brantley, 47, of Jacksonville, and Ronald Wayne, 56, of Valdosta, said they felt some pain but had no visible injuries, Woods said. Woods a 1988 Peterbuilt tractor-trailer loaded with logs was northbound when it came to the crossing, which is marked with warning crossbars. The train was traveling west about 45 mph along a section of tracks where the rail speed limit is 50 mph. "The truck failed to yield at the crossing and pulled into the path of the oncoming train. The train hit the truck in the middle of the crossing," Woods said. The truck was torn in half by the collision. The driver was trapped inside the cab, which overturned and was drug about 70 feet along the track. Two things I want to point out: ...said Trooper 1st Class Chad Woods of the Georgia State Patrol, lead investigator in the accident. No mention of the railroad leading the investigation. and: "The truck failed to yield at the crossing and pulled into the path of the oncoming train. ...," Woods said. "Trains have the right of way at crossings. It is the responsibility of the motorist to make sure no train is coming. If it cannot be easily determined that a train is not coming, the driver must come to a stop until it can be determined that it is safe to cross. " This last paragraph is a quote from a Superior court judge that I spoke with earlier today. Derrick
QUOTE: Originally posted by dekemd I'll ask him when I see him. From my knowledge of the laws, it would depend on just how private the road is. If it is open to public traffic, as in not gated or posted no trespassing, then it would probably be considered a public vehicular area and motor vehicles laws would apply. For example, a Walmart parking lot is on private property, but you can be charged with traffic offenses when driving in the lot. That's how the law is in NC. You say the railroad did not have to and shouldn't have put the crossing signs up. Seems to me that they were trying to improve crossing safety. And you fault them for it. Kind of goes against everything you've said about the railroads. Does the driver of the truck not have a common law duty to make sure there is not a train coming before going across the crossing? Where in the article about the GA accident does it say it was a blind crossing? You say GA has no applicable laws, and post a link to an FRA document on vegetation clearances. No where in the article does it say that vegetation contributed to the accident, so where did you get that it did? I'm not going to press any charges against anyone in GA. I'm in NC and I don't have jurisdiction there. In regarding the bleach truck accident, maybe the A-pillar on the truck blocked his view of the train. I guess that the government should be held responsible for not requiring truck manufacturers to make transparent A-pillars. Does that sound about right to you?
QUOTE: Originally posted by David Voss Hmm. Here is what my seven year old daughter had to say about this: Railroads aren't bad. Sometimes cars don't listen to the railroad gates and go on the tracks and people get killed. Because trains take awhile to stop and that's why cars have to stop.
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QUOTE: Originally posted by missouri2 My 14 year old said "Where's all the f*&%$# smashed up car parts if its authentic?"
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