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SALfan
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Posted by SALfan on Monday, February 28, 2005 11:27 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by fievel

Looks like a community of 5000 people would have organized a fire department.
Small towns all across America have done so. I feel for them about a possible
blocked EMS vehicle, but they knew / should have known about the problem.
They certainly know what the fix is. Build the overpass,and quit blaming BNSF.!!!
And let the railroads continue to serve America.[:)]


Good idea, but it will never happen - it would require these effete snobs to dirty their hands and ***gasp*** do something useful. Don't you know, a volunteer fire dept. would involve actual work, the kind that should be done by the poor rabble that can't afford to live there.

Mudchicken & BaltACD - You guys are eloquent! Nearly spewed Coke (note, capital "C") all over the computer reading your comments.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, February 28, 2005 3:48 PM



QUOTE: Originally posted by spbed

You know they say all the fruits & nuts in world are in California so they should have check things I guess more thoughly then they did[:D]





I would say that this is terribly offensive and inappropriate, but I think it's actually more just an inaccuracy on spbed's part. I'm sure there are plenty of fruits and nuts all over the country (not just in CA) who actually enjoy trains and are reading this forum. [8D]
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Posted by mudchicken on Monday, February 28, 2005 4:31 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by kwyoung




QUOTE: Originally posted by spbed

You know they say all the fruits & nuts in world are in California so they should have check things I guess more thoughly then they did[:D]







I would say that this is terribly offensive and inappropriate, but I think it's actually more just an inaccuracy on spbed's part. I'm sure there are plenty of fruits and nuts all over the country (not just in CA) who actually enjoy trains and are reading this forum. [8D]


KWY:

Yes - BUT these folks are living up to all the advance billing and pre-conceived notions that the rest of the country thinks of the bay area general populace. It was their own bumbling, lack of foresight and ineptitude that got them to this point. Can't seem to take responsibility for their own stupidity. This did not happen overnight.

Let them stew in their own mess for a while. C.W. Nevius wouldn't think to do his homework prior to pumping out this drivel in the best Hearst tradition, would he?
Mudchicken Nothing is worth taking the risk of losing a life over. Come home tonight in the same condition that you left home this morning in. Safety begins with ME.... cinscocom-west
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, February 28, 2005 4:55 PM
You know, this is happening all across the country, not just in california. Industrial areas are dried up, some investors buy the land and petition the city governement to convert it to residetial. they build it up and sell the homes to people moving to the city. All together, most of these people, never know what's actually occuring until they've finally moved in, some don't even know it was formerly an industrial area.

All I can say is that it was bad planning on the city governement and the developers to not put some sort of overpass or underpass so that emergency vehicles could get through. so don't blame the innocent victims, that would be the residents, in this.
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Posted by espeefoamer on Monday, February 28, 2005 5:04 PM
Innocent victims?[:0]Didn't they see the tracks when they moved in[?]What did they think they were looking at, rabbit tracks[:(!]? Those people got what they deserved[B)].I thought this whole thing was hilarious[:p]!!!
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Posted by chad thomas on Monday, February 28, 2005 5:22 PM
First, I take offence at the statement about nuts and California. There are nuts everywhere.

Second, I think lack of planning on the part of the city/developers is the real problem. It doesn't take a genious to figure out the solution. But it will take money. These residents need to ask themselves what they want more, their money or a solution.

Third- These residents probably didn't spend enough time at these homes to see the problem untill after they purchased these houses. And I'm shure the realty people were not anxious to point out this negative aspect of the propertys

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, February 28, 2005 6:53 PM
don't raise taxes there, Then It would hit me... I live in Concord, CA. in Contra Costa, and it would hit me. Just do a city tax if they wan't, but not a county tax because these cry babies don't like to wait.
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Posted by CSXrules4eva on Monday, February 28, 2005 7:16 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by bbrant

Sounds like the trains were there before the condos and the people living in them made the choice to live there. I'm going out on a limb here but if the trains are such a problem, I bet there's other places to move to. In the meantime, just let 'em sit there and look for the caboose.


I agree w/ ya 100 %!!!!!! First off I didn't like this article one bit, it was really biased and it didn't reconize or give respect to the opposite (railroads) point of view. It just touched upon a view by stating that threre are many model railroad clubs in the town of Marina Bay. He didn't interview or quote a statement by someone who likes seeing the trains or who doesn't care about the quote un quote "train problem".

Ok second off the railroads were ther first, way before all these condos and malls, and highways or roads were put in place. The people also choose to live there too. The should of known there is lots of rail action their concerning grade Xings. Plus, the highway comission shouldn't of built roads that interest rails around the whole town. The people who built or moved their bussness near the grade Xinings should of know of the "inconvenices". In no way should the railroad have to "speed up their trains in order to please the motorists or residents. Safety is more important. I don't think the residents would want a huge train derailment.

Third off I can't beleive they are complaining I wouldn't mind living in a town like that. I can look out for "blue and orenge" locomotives, as well as the cabosses.
LORD HELP US ALL TO BE ORIGINAL AND NOT CRISPY!!! please? Sarah J.M. Warner conductor CSX
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Posted by spbed on Tuesday, March 1, 2005 9:18 AM
While I have not been their I will PRESUME the tracks & trains were their way before the houses, condo's, malls were built. Is that correct? If so then at least in my opinion it becomes a "buyers beware" situation. Anybody who bought those houses or condos or opened a business that would be affected by the RR traffic either decided to tolerate it or should have bought elsewhere where the RR does not tie up the local streets. Sorry if my view does not coincide with you.

The fruits/nuts comment was a joke. No offense meant. [:D]



QUOTE: Originally posted by chad thomas

First, I take offence at the statement about nuts and California. There are nuts everywhere.

Second, I think lack of planning on the part of the city/developers is the real problem. It doesn't take a genious to figure out the solution. But it will take money. These residents need to ask themselves what they want more, their money or a solution.

Third- These residents probably didn't spend enough time at these homes to see the problem untill after they purchased these houses. And I'm shure the realty people were not anxious to point out this negative aspect of the propertys


Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR  Austin TX Sub

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Posted by spbed on Tuesday, March 1, 2005 9:28 AM
You know here is another spin on it. Richmond is across the bay from SF so land I would say is on the very pricey side. The builders/developers under price the homes they are selling knowing the RR situation. The buyer says wow I am getting a bargain so maybe every ONCE in a while I may get stop for a short time by the RR but decides the under price is worth it. Now they are in residence & they find out a few short moments may turn into many minutes so they start hopping on their soap box to change what may have been in place for 100 years. [:D]



QUOTE: Originally posted by SteamerFan

You know, this is happening all across the country, not just in california. Industrial areas are dried up, some investors buy the land and petition the city governement to convert it to residetial. they build it up and sell the homes to people moving to the city. All together, most of these people, never know what's actually occuring until they've finally moved in, some don't even know it was formerly an industrial area.

All I can say is that it was bad planning on the city governement and the developers to not put some sort of overpass or underpass so that emergency vehicles could get through. so don't blame the innocent victims, that would be the residents, in this.

Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR  Austin TX Sub

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spbed
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Posted by spbed on Tuesday, March 1, 2005 9:36 AM
Well you are right I am sure their are fruits & nuts everywhere. OTH I got that joke from a former boss who was in SF & I was in NJ & I ask him why do you take things so lightly. Hid reply was that all the "fruits & nuts" live here in California. Naturally for a E/coast guy I found that remark quite amusing.



QUOTE: Originally posted by mudchicken

QUOTE: Originally posted by kwyoung




QUOTE: Originally posted by spbed

You know they say all the fruits & nuts in world are in California so they should have check things I guess more thoughly then they did[:D]







I would say that this is terribly offensive and inappropriate, but I think it's actually more just an inaccuracy on spbed's part. I'm sure there are plenty of fruits and nuts all over the country (not just in CA) who actually enjoy trains and are reading this forum. [8D]


KWY:

Yes - BUT these folks are living up to all the advance billing and pre-conceived notions that the rest of the country thinks of the bay area general populace. It was their own bumbling, lack of foresight and ineptitude that got them to this point. Can't seem to take responsibility for their own stupidity. This did not happen overnight.

Let them stew in their own mess for a while. C.W. Nevius wouldn't think to do his homework prior to pumping out this drivel in the best Hearst tradition, would he?

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chad thomas
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Posted by chad thomas on Tuesday, March 1, 2005 10:24 AM
spbed,
Don't worry about it, I wasn't that offended. I got over it in a milisecond or so. [8D]
The joke was funny. [:D]
There probably are more nuts (and definatly fruits) in California,[B)]
but there not ALL here.[:D]
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Posted by spbed on Tuesday, March 1, 2005 11:23 AM
Thanks for your understanding & FYI I tell it to my bro all the time who lives a bit south of SF. [:D]



QUOTE: Originally posted by chad thomas

spbed,
Don't worry about it, I wasn't that offended. I got over it in a milisecond or so. [8D]
The joke was funny. [:D]
There probably are more nuts (and definatly fruits) in California,[B)]
but there not ALL here.[:D]

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 1, 2005 12:44 PM
[8D]typical people in California waiting on a caboose[:p][:p]
im in east texas waing on the helper locos [:p][:p]
to pu***he train over the speed bump
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Posted by CANADIANPACIFIC2816 on Sunday, March 27, 2005 12:36 PM
I wonder how many people in Marina Bay are employed by BNSF or UP? Without the rairoads a lot of jobs simply would not exist. I think we have a class of people out there who are never happy unless they have something to whine about. Hey, you people out there in Marina Bay, if you don't like being held up at grade crossings by trains, then pack up and MOVE!!!!!
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Posted by spbed on Sunday, March 27, 2005 1:10 PM
The consensus was it was the buyers fault for buying before checking [:)]

QUOTE: Originally posted by CANADIANPACIFIC2816

I wonder how many people in Marina Bay are employed by BNSF or UP? Without the rairoads a lot of jobs simply would not exist. I think we have a class of people out there who are never happy unless they have something to whine about. Hey, you people out there in Marina Bay, if you don't like being held up at grade crossings by trains, then pack up and MOVE!!!!!

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, March 27, 2005 3:42 PM
Whatever happened to Caviat Emptor?????????

BTW, as an ex-Californian, I'm offended-----you left flakes off the list!![(-D][(-D][(-D][:-,][banghead][banghead]
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Posted by spbed on Monday, March 28, 2005 8:19 AM
Oops I will add it from this moment forward for sure! New adage is all flakes, nuts & fruits live in California[:p][:)]

Originally posted by drephpe

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