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Why "Pan Am"

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Posted by M636C on Sunday, January 14, 2018 10:54 PM

I actually looked up Pan Am on Wikipedia.

The words "Pan American" are usually used for something that involves both North and South America. Pan American's routes pre WWII were largely from North to South America. Post WWII the South American service was split off to "Panagra" a joint operation between Pan Am and the Grace shipping line that serviced South America, which had the same badge as Pan Am but in green rather than blue.

An interesting point that I hadn't realised but noted after reading the the M10000 thread in the Classic Trains forum and watching the amazing videos linked there, that one of the backers of Pan Am was no other than Averell Harriman, head of Union Pacific (interviewed in the M10000 videos) the other money coming from the Vanderbilts, associated with the New York Central.

With the original airline having such close links to the railroads both east and west, maybe it isn't as big a jump to use the name for a railroad (although one that ran into Mexico at least would be more appropriate).

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Posted by XOTOWER on Tuesday, January 16, 2018 11:35 AM

The story is pretty complicated but that guy Mellon bought a rinky-dink New England airline too and picked up the Pan-Am name to make his puddle jumper airline look like the real deal. Once he got hold of that trademark he ran with it and painted his ugly flat black Guilford railroad equipment his own shade of Pan-Am blue.  As far as the railrod itself goes who can say if he saved it or destroyed it.   

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Posted by STEPHEN J KESSLER on Tuesday, January 16, 2018 12:22 PM
Correction, Pease AFB was in NH, not Maine.
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Posted by tree68 on Tuesday, January 16, 2018 8:48 PM

STEPHEN J KESSLER
Correction, Pease AFB was in NH, not Maine.

But it's not far from Maine... Smile, Wink & Grin

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Posted by jeffhergert on Tuesday, January 16, 2018 9:41 PM

tree68

 

 
STEPHEN J KESSLER
Correction, Pease AFB was in NH, not Maine.

 

But it's not far from Maine... Smile, Wink & Grin

 

Maybe he was thinking about Loring AFB.

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Posted by BLS53 on Wednesday, January 17, 2018 3:33 AM

jeffhergert

 

 
tree68

 

 
STEPHEN J KESSLER
Correction, Pease AFB was in NH, not Maine.

 

But it's not far from Maine... Smile, Wink & Grin

 

 

 

Maybe he was thinking about Loring AFB.

Jeff

 

My friend lived in Portland Maine. I guess he commuted to Pease. But it was Pease, not Loring.

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Posted by Sunnyland on Wednesday, January 17, 2018 4:28 PM

I figured you'd know Randy, since thats the railroad you've worked for.  Mary Stahl 

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Posted by Sunnyland on Wednesday, January 17, 2018 4:29 PM

Just like St. Louis-San Francisco Railway, never made it to San Francisco, I think they planned to do it, but money ran out and the name stayed.  

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Posted by Deggesty on Wednesday, January 17, 2018 4:44 PM

Sunnyland

Just like St. Louis-San Francisco Railway, never made it to San Francisco, I think they planned to do it, but money ran out and the name stayed.  

 

In 1892, the SLSF was hooked up with the Santa Fe--which used the Atlantic and Pacific to go west from Albuquerque.

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Posted by wanswheel on Thursday, January 18, 2018 1:27 PM

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