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Posted by schlimm on Sunday, June 25, 2017 3:03 PM

Major General Joseph Hooker

Joseph Hooker

Hooker's headquarters  was described by cavalry officer Captain Charles Francis Adams, Jr. (later President of the Union Pacific) as being a combination of a "bar-room and a brothel".

There is a popular legend that "hooker" as a slang term for a prostitute is derived from his last name because of parties and a lack of military discipline at his headquarters near the Murder Bay district of Washington, DC. Some versions of the legend claim that the band of prostitutes that followed his division were derisively referred to as "General Hooker's Army" or "Hooker's Brigade." However, the term "hooker" was used in print as early as 1845, years before Hooker was a public figure, and is likely derived from the concentration of prostitutes around the shipyards and ferry terminal of the Corlear's Hook area of Manhattan in the early to middle 19th century, who came to be referred to as "hookers". 

The prevalence of the Hooker legend may have been at least partly responsible for the popularity of the term. There is some evidence that an area in Washington, DC, known for prostitution during the Civil War, was referred to as "Hooker's Division". The name was shortened to "The Division" when he spent time there after First Bull Run guarding D.C. from incursion. [from Wiki article]

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Posted by NDG on Sunday, June 25, 2017 4:17 PM

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Posted by Miningman on Sunday, June 25, 2017 5:13 PM

Great stuff NDG. 

In the early days of Uranium we did not know about Alpha, Beta, and Gamma Radiation. We had to find out the hard way, sickness and death. 

When I'm back to work Monday I will forward pictures of that new Jet Drill I talked about, the entire train its carried on underground, and the space station look of Cigar Lake Mine. Then I can post them to this forum. 

We have come a long way in Uranium Mining. 

Cameco, todays company that mines the Uranium, has it's roots in Eldorado. Areva, the French company, has a, by law, minority ownership in some of the Mines although they own and operate the McLean Lake Mill all to themselves. It is the only U Mill in the world that can process raw ore, that is, not in a slurry, as the crushing and grinding circuits have very heavy and special shielding. 

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Posted by AgentKid on Sunday, June 25, 2017 5:18 PM

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Cigar Lake Mine

Now I know where you are. That mine has its' own Wikipedia entry.

MAN, you are really out of town there! Holy Moly!

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So shovel the coal, let this rattler roll.

"A Train is a Place Going Somewhere"  CP Rail Public Timetable

"O. S. Irricana"

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Posted by Miningman on Sunday, June 25, 2017 5:33 PM

AgentKid- I appreciate your interest. Thanks. How are things in Calgary? Would be nice to get to the Stampede this year.

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Posted by AgentKid on Sunday, June 25, 2017 5:50 PM

Like the man said, the times they are a changing.

There are signs that there really isn't the money around here anymore after the oil price drop, like there once was. I live in an area populated with what once were popular clubs for young people, and last night was so quiet it was like I was in a residental area. As the saying goes, No Money - No Fun-ie!

My health is such that I won't be getting down to the Stampede. In fact I haven't been out purposely to train-watch since the summer of 2012, the year before the flood. The only trains I see now are those I see from car windows on my way to somewhere else.

Thank goodness for the TRAINS and Classic Trains websites.

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So shovel the coal, let this rattler roll.

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Posted by wanswheel on Monday, June 26, 2017 12:34 AM

http://www.iaea.org/inis/collection/NCLCollectionStore/_Public/27/057/27057231.pdf?r=1

https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/assets-us-west-2/technical-report/cameco-2016-cigar-lake-technical-report.pdf

“Although the significance of this 430 m deep mineralization, in what was considered a regionally very favourable environment, was easy to recognise, this can be singled out as one of the rare cases in the history of geology where the wildest dreams of the geologists involved – a species well endowed with imaginative optimism – were in fact to be surpassed by reality in terms of magnitude, size and grade of the orebody.”  J.P. Fouques, 1989

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Posted by wanswheel on Monday, June 26, 2017 2:12 AM
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Posted by Miningman on Monday, June 26, 2017 11:06 PM

Nice documentation on Cigar Lake Wanswheel. It is a great read for anyone with some time. Many of my grads work there. 

It is quite a source of pride for us Geologists. One of the geologists listed on the original reports and also on one of the documents you posted has been assisting me for the last weeks on contract. 

2 more days to go to the end and then the summer break. Been scrambling with meetings and marking. 

Thanks again Wanswheel. 

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Posted by NDG on Monday, June 26, 2017 11:49 PM

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Posted by schlimm on Tuesday, June 27, 2017 9:31 AM

wanswheel

 

 
schlimm

Major General Joseph Hooker

 

 

https://archive.org/stream/abrahamlincolnsl00linc#page/n1/mode/2up

 

Executive Mansion
Washington, January 26, 1863

Major General Hooker:
General.

I have placed you at the head of the Army of the Potomac. Of course I have done this upon what appear to me to be sufficient reasons. And yet I think it best for you to know that there are some things in regard to which, I am not quite satisfied with you. I believe you to be a brave and a skilful soldier, which, of course, I like. I also believe you do not mix politics with your profession, in which you are right. You have confidence in yourself, which is a valuable, if not an indispensable quality. You are ambitious, which, within reasonable bounds, does good rather than harm. But I think that during Gen. Burnside's command of the Army, you have taken counsel of your ambition, and thwarted him as much as you could, in which you did a great wrong to the country, and to a most meritorious and honorable brother officer. I have heard, in such way as to believe it, of your recently saying that both the Army and the Government needed a Dictator. Of course it was not for this, but in spite of it, that I have given you the command. Only those generals who gain successes, can set up dictators. What I now ask of you is military success, and I will risk the dictatorship. The government will support you to the utmost of it's ability, which is neither more nor less than it has done and will do for all commanders. I much fear that the spirit which you have aided to infuse into the Army, of criticising their Commander, and withholding confidence from him, will now turn upon you. I shall assist you as far as I can, to put it down. Neither you, nor Napoleon, if he were alive again, could get any good out of an army, while such a spirit prevails in it.

And now, beware of rashness. Beware of rashness, but with energy, and sleepless vigilance, go forward, and give us victories.

Yours very truly
A. Lincoln

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Posted by Deggesty on Tuesday, June 27, 2017 10:58 AM

Poor General Hooker! He lost his nerve during the Battle Of Chancellorsville when a cannonball whizzed pst his head.

Before the battle began, he failed to make certain that the left wing of his army was anchored, and it was described to General Lee as "floating"--thus making it possible for the II Corps of the Army of Northern Virgina to make its way around that end of the Army of the Potomac.

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Posted by wanswheel on Tuesday, June 27, 2017 1:29 PM

Deggesty

Poor General Hooker! He lost his nerve during the Battle Of Chancellorsville when a cannonball whizzed pst his head.

https://archive.org/stream/menthingsisawinc00rusl#page/52/mode/2up

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Posted by wanswheel on Tuesday, June 27, 2017 2:12 PM

Miningman

It is a great read for anyone with some time.

Or a need for of a jolt of humility.  I’m in awe of the authors and their intended readership.

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Posted by BaltACD on Tuesday, June 27, 2017 3:44 PM

schlimm
 

Executive Mansion
Washington, January 26, 1863

Major General Hooker:
General.

I have placed you at the head of the Army of the Potomac. Of course I have done this upon what appear to me to be sufficient reasons. And yet I think it best for you to know that there are some things in regard to which, I am not quite satisfied with you. I believe you to be a brave and a skilful soldier, which, of course, I like. I also believe you do not mix politics with your profession, in which you are right. You have confidence in yourself, which is a valuable, if not an indispensable quality. You are ambitious, which, within reasonable bounds, does good rather than harm. But I think that during Gen. Burnside's command of the Army, you have taken counsel of your ambition, and thwarted him as much as you could, in which you did a great wrong to the country, and to a most meritorious and honorable brother officer. I have heard, in such way as to believe it, of your recently saying that both the Army and the Government needed a Dictator. Of course it was not for this, but in spite of it, that I have given you the command. Only those generals who gain successes, can set up dictators. What I now ask of you is military success, and I will risk the dictatorship. The government will support you to the utmost of it's ability, which is neither more nor less than it has done and will do for all commanders. I much fear that the spirit which you have aided to infuse into the Army, of criticising their Commander, and withholding confidence from him, will now turn upon you. I shall assist you as far as I can, to put it down. Neither you, nor Napoleon, if he were alive again, could get any good out of an army, while such a spirit prevails in it.

And now, beware of rashness. Beware of rashness, but with energy, and sleepless vigilance, go forward, and give us victories.

Yours very truly
A. Lincoln

Amazing letter!  To paraphrase -
I know you are a back staber and undermined your previous commanding officer.  I know you don't believe in civilian control of the military and don't really respect me as your commanding officer, BUT I am putting you in charge of the Army.  Win for the US of A!

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Posted by schlimm on Tuesday, June 27, 2017 6:37 PM

BaltACD

 

 
schlimm
 

Executive Mansion
Washington, January 26, 1863

Major General Hooker:
General.

I have placed you at the head of the Army of the Potomac. Of course I have done this upon what appear to me to be sufficient reasons. And yet I think it best for you to know that there are some things in regard to which, I am not quite satisfied with you. I believe you to be a brave and a skilful soldier, which, of course, I like. I also believe you do not mix politics with your profession, in which you are right. You have confidence in yourself, which is a valuable, if not an indispensable quality. You are ambitious, which, within reasonable bounds, does good rather than harm. But I think that during Gen. Burnside's command of the Army, you have taken counsel of your ambition, and thwarted him as much as you could, in which you did a great wrong to the country, and to a most meritorious and honorable brother officer. I have heard, in such way as to believe it, of your recently saying that both the Army and the Government needed a Dictator. Of course it was not for this, but in spite of it, that I have given you the command. Only those generals who gain successes, can set up dictators. What I now ask of you is military success, and I will risk the dictatorship. The government will support you to the utmost of it's ability, which is neither more nor less than it has done and will do for all commanders. I much fear that the spirit which you have aided to infuse into the Army, of criticising their Commander, and withholding confidence from him, will now turn upon you. I shall assist you as far as I can, to put it down. Neither you, nor Napoleon, if he were alive again, could get any good out of an army, while such a spirit prevails in it.

And now, beware of rashness. Beware of rashness, but with energy, and sleepless vigilance, go forward, and give us victories.

Yours very truly
A. Lincoln

 

 

Amazing letter!  To paraphrase -
I know you are a back staber and undermined your previous commanding officer.  I know you don't believe in civilian control of the military and don't really respect me as your commanding officer, BUT I am putting you in charge of the Army.  Win for the US of A!

 

Lots of backstabbers on both sides, lots.  Just like corporations, government and academia.

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Posted by BaltACD on Tuesday, June 27, 2017 7:44 PM

schlimm
BaltACD
schlimm

Executive Mansion
Washington, January 26, 1863

Major General Hooker:
General.

I have placed you at the head of the Army of the Potomac. Of course I have done this upon what appear to me to be sufficient reasons. And yet I think it best for you to know that there are some things in regard to which, I am not quite satisfied with you. I believe you to be a brave and a skilful soldier, which, of course, I like. I also believe you do not mix politics with your profession, in which you are right. You have confidence in yourself, which is a valuable, if not an indispensable quality. You are ambitious, which, within reasonable bounds, does good rather than harm. But I think that during Gen. Burnside's command of the Army, you have taken counsel of your ambition, and thwarted him as much as you could, in which you did a great wrong to the country, and to a most meritorious and honorable brother officer. I have heard, in such way as to believe it, of your recently saying that both the Army and the Government needed a Dictator. Of course it was not for this, but in spite of it, that I have given you the command. Only those generals who gain successes, can set up dictators. What I now ask of you is military success, and I will risk the dictatorship. The government will support you to the utmost of it's ability, which is neither more nor less than it has done and will do for all commanders. I much fear that the spirit which you have aided to infuse into the Army, of criticising their Commander, and withholding confidence from him, will now turn upon you. I shall assist you as far as I can, to put it down. Neither you, nor Napoleon, if he were alive again, could get any good out of an army, while such a spirit prevails in it.

And now, beware of rashness. Beware of rashness, but with energy, and sleepless vigilance, go forward, and give us victories.

Yours very truly
A. Lincoln

Amazing letter!  To paraphrase -
I know you are a back staber and undermined your previous commanding officer.  I know you don't believe in civilian control of the military and don't really respect me as your commanding officer, BUT I am putting you in charge of the Army.  Win for the US of A!

Lots of backstabbers on both sides, lots.  Just like corporations, government and academia.

That I understand - but to have the 'Boss' identify it all in a letter of 'Promotion'. 

Stones!  Big ones!

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Posted by Miningman on Wednesday, June 28, 2017 1:03 AM

RME, Wanswheel, NDG and all- If you go to the "Northlands College". Facebook Page you can watch a small video of the Grand Opening of our new Mine School and the first year of our "Core Days" event. It's humble but not boring. 

Tomorrrow is my last day of work until Aug 28th. Hopefully I can participate more in Classic Quiz Question's, rag on about how we lost everything railroading that was so cherished and vital and maybe some pics from chasing trains across the prairies and other possible travels.

Hope to get to Rochelle and Maryland. Health permitting of course. 

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Posted by BOB WITHORN on Wednesday, June 28, 2017 8:34 AM
Speaking of railroads, did you know that sometime trains 'stringline'?? Boy has this gotten away for the original post, (just a jab, sorry). Ok with me , VERY interesting stuff. Miningman, you're kind out in the real 'no mans land'.
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Posted by schlimm on Wednesday, June 28, 2017 1:59 PM

Miningman
RME, Wanswheel, NDG and all- If you go to the "Northlands College". Facebook Page you can watch a small video of the Grand Opening of our new Mine School and the first year of our "Core Days" event. It's humble but not boring

Good pun!!

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Posted by NDG on Wednesday, June 28, 2017 3:10 PM

Thank You.

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Posted by Miningman on Wednesday, June 28, 2017 6:36 PM

Thank you Schlimm...too much fun!

Pachucha Tanks are a big part of any Mineral Processing Mill. 

Tanks under regulated and carefully monitored pressure and temperature and pH level... added flocculants, chemicals, depending on the minerology of the ore and what it is you are trying to "win". 

Had one blow its lid at Seabee, our local gold mine, 2 summers ago, My student was right there at the time. Top flew through the air end over like a flipped coin. This one was outdoors, most are not. Made for a great story. 

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Posted by NDG on Thursday, June 29, 2017 12:41 AM

 

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Posted by Miningman on Thursday, June 29, 2017 9:42 AM

NDG- Now that I did not know! Very interesting and informative. Were FM locomotives the only one's to use this feature? 

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Posted by cx500 on Thursday, June 29, 2017 11:00 AM

As a piece of trivia, I notice  that Doug Wingfield's picture from inside the cab was taken while crossing the Lethbridge Viaduct. 

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Posted by NDG on Friday, June 30, 2017 3:05 PM

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Posted by schlimm on Friday, June 30, 2017 10:37 PM

NDG
Anyway, things really deteriorated when ' The Limiteds '  stopped in their Barney and Smith Splendor and THEIR Exalted Patrons descended to the platform to take the Airs and stroll as the train was serviced.

Barney & Smith Car Company

 

Located in Dayton, Ohio, Barney & Smith Car Company built railroad cars. In the second half of the nineteenth century, railroads were constructed at a rapid rate. Barney & Smith capitalized on this growth and became one of the largest car manufacturers in the United States. Unfortunately, this dominance would not last long. The Pullman Company began constructing cars near Chicago in 1881 and soon surpassed Barney & Smith.

Throughout the 1870s and 1880s, Barney & Smith was very successful. In 1880, the company employed more than 1,500 workers, and that number grew to two thousand by 1890. In the 1890s, Barney & Smith expanded its operations to produce cars for electric railroad systems as well.

Although on the surface Barney & Smith seemed to prosper during this era, the company was not involved in innovations in the field. Unlike companies such as Pullman, which worked to obtain new patents, Barney & Smith was content with the status quo. As a result, the company began to stagnate by the early twentieth century. In addition, by 1892 the company was no longer privately owned.

The Panic of 1893 had a major impact on the future of Barney & Smith. Unfortunately, many railroads suffered financial setbacks or went bankrupt as a result of the nation's economic problems. These companies could not afford to buy new railroad cars, which meant that manufacturers like Barney & Smith faced serious financial difficulties. Unlike some of its competitors, Barney & Smith was able to survive the Panic of 1893.

After the Panic of 1893, the company's management decided to change its focus for the future. Barney & Smith began to manufacturer cars for electric street railways and interurban railroads. The company also began to think about manufacturing its cars out of steel, although it would take almost ten years for its implementation. Once again, Barney & Smith was behind when it came to innovations in the industry.

As automobiles became more common, the electric railways became less popular. Orders began to decline, and Barney & Smith struggled to survive. The company faced yet another blow when the Flood of 1913 damaged its factory. At this point, Barney & Smith was forced into receivership. Although the company came out of receivership, it never regained its former level of success. Ultimately, Smith & Barney closed its doors permanently in 1921.

Barney & Smith 1879 Advertisement

Drawing Car "America" Interior

Drawing Room Car "America"

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Posted by Miningman on Friday, June 30, 2017 11:38 PM

Thanks for that Schlimm. Barney and Smith built the consist for the Soo  Deluxe, which ran in NDG's backyard, but before his time...legend and lore, what a train!

Wanswheel- Forwarded that on to many many people, too much fun for the big day tomorrow. Best laugh I've had in a month. It's perfect. 

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