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why didn't the cn stick to customer service like the wc did?

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Posted by ShopsYardMaster on Wednesday, August 8, 2007 5:52 PM
 DRGW fan wrote:
 B.Erdmann wrote:

also i do believe
the old cnw route from fondy to milwaukee portions were takin out by wc
between eden & west bend  west bend to milwaukee still exist
& the line to eden does.

Why would the
railroad go through all the bother (and expense) of tearing out such a
short section of rail?  The old CNW line could have been used as
an alternative in the event of disaster on their regular line.

 

Very
simple. Little on-line business. Other than the quarry at Marblehead,
and the feed mill and canning factory at Eden, not much else between
Eden and West Bend.(about 30+ miles) CN still serves Eden and
Marblehead from Fond du Lac, about 3 times a week.

 The
Airline(as the subdivision was known in CNW days) was mainly a high
speed passenger line from Milwaukee to the Fox Valley. Most of the
freight went down the Clyman Junction line until about '86 when it was
abandoned between FDL and Clyman Junction. Then the Airline picked up
what little freight there was between the Fox Valley and Milwaukee.
Then CNW sold it to the Fox River Valley RR., which was sold to
Wisconsin Central in about 1990. The WC only kept the Airline until
double-tracking of Byron Hill was completed, then it was abandoned.

The section between Eden and West Bend has been turned into a hiking/biking trail called the Eisenbahn trail. HTH 

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Posted by solzrules on Wednesday, August 8, 2007 6:09 PM
 ShopsYardMaster wrote:
 DRGW fan wrote:
 B.Erdmann wrote:

also i do believe
the old cnw route from fondy to milwaukee portions were takin out by wc
between eden & west bend  west bend to milwaukee still exist
& the line to eden does.

Why would the
railroad go through all the bother (and expense) of tearing out such a
short section of rail?  The old CNW line could have been used as
an alternative in the event of disaster on their regular line.

 

Very
simple. Little on-line business. Other than the quarry at Marblehead,
and the feed mill and canning factory at Eden, not much else between
Eden and West Bend.(about 30+ miles) CN still serves Eden and
Marblehead from Fond du Lac, about 3 times a week.

 The
Airline(as the subdivision was known in CNW days) was mainly a high
speed passenger line from Milwaukee to the Fox Valley. Most of the
freight went down the Clyman Junction line until about '86 when it was
abandoned between FDL and Clyman Junction. Then the Airline picked up
what little freight there was between the Fox Valley and Milwaukee.
Then CNW sold it to the Fox River Valley RR., which was sold to
Wisconsin Central in about 1990. The WC only kept the Airline until
double-tracking of Byron Hill was completed, then it was abandoned.

The section between Eden and West Bend has been turned into a hiking/biking trail called the Eisenbahn trail. HTH 

You seem to know quite a bit about that line...just by knowing about that quarry.  Do you have any idea how the railroad is doing with their transloading terminal just south of West Bend?  It seems that traffic is pretty regular in and out of there.  Given the railroad sunk a little money into developing that AFTER that line was pretty much abandoned north of West Bend they must see some future for it.  Any comments would be greatly appreciated!

You think this is bad? Just wait until inflation kicks in.....
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Posted by ShopsYardMaster on Wednesday, August 8, 2007 6:29 PM
Sorry, solzrules, I don't get down that way too much anymore. Maybe some of the Milwaukee railfans can help you out.

Jim North Fond du Lac WI Home of the late, great Wisconsin Central
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Posted by Imisswc on Thursday, August 9, 2007 3:52 PM
I remember matt sumner i believe he was in my class.  I cant remember all the names anymore but i talked to 1 that was in my class but i havent run into anyone else. Would be nice to though just to see how there doing!
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, August 11, 2007 6:47 PM
I just returned from a trip to Cedar Rapids and the CN has done some pretty good work on the Cedar Valley Railroad around Plainfield, IA.  I haven't kept regular tabs on that route, but from the times I have seen it in the past, the Cedar Valley RR ROW has never looked as well maintained as it did today.  Lots of fresh ballast, recent tie replacements, looks like they're keeping the brush cut back real well.  The IC kept that line in fair condition as did the CC but it sure looks like the CN has invested in MOW.
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Posted by Use to live by Airline on Thursday, July 9, 2015 11:53 AM

solzrures I'm sure was made awhere of this, so pardon me if I'm late on this comment: The Airline ran from the Wiscona interlocking tower to North Fond du Lac. The only way to Manitowoc from Fond du Lac would either go north to Green Bay and take a train on the Lake Shore route south or go south to Milwaukee and take a train and take north, via Lake Shore Route. If you live in Fond du Lac before I believe it was 1926, the Marshfield to Fond du lac train service extended to include Sheboygan. From Sheboygan north to Manitowoc on Lake Shore Route

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Posted by MarknLisa on Thursday, July 9, 2015 5:02 PM

jclass

The former Soo ROW through Oshkosh was abandoned by WC for good reasons.  For instance, the roadbed was physically part of the front yards of many homes.  As a railfan and modeler, it was fascinating; for everyone else, a nightmare.

I think it's unfortunate that CN ended TOFC/COFC from Green Bay when it took over.  Many more trucks on 41 and 43.

There's some talk about the need to locate an intermodal transfer point in Wisconsin as CN develops its Prince Rupert - Chicago service.  I hope it happens.

 

There is an intermodal ramp in Chippy Falls, though it is quite small.

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Posted by CatFoodFlambe on Thursday, July 9, 2015 6:32 PM

Would it be accurate to say that WC lived and died by the traffic they originated, hence the attention to customer service;   while it is more or less a means for CN to cross the area, picking off only the traffic that's profitable under their business model?

 

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Posted by Use to live by Airline on Friday, July 10, 2015 6:20 AM

I just joined this site. Funny there's a 8 year gap between my post and the last. Hope these new posts will revive it. I use to envy how fast the Soo use to run through Slinger, I watched them when I went to the Washington County Fair at Slinger before the move it to it's present location south of West Bend.

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Posted by Andrew Falconer on Sunday, July 12, 2015 11:53 PM

The CN management has to have daily or weekly deliveries to an industrial customer to keep serving them.

Andrew

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