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Railroad evolutions...distasteful or otherwise

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Railroad evolutions...distasteful or otherwise
Posted by shawnee on Tuesday, June 26, 2007 4:43 PM

I'm going to take this slice of a post, cuz what the heck, why not raise a ruckus. Well, I now actually have a loco of them.

CSX...i've not quite gotten over my distaste that this northeastern/appalachian railroad is based in Jacksonville...FLORIDA, and now does an increasing amount of their remote control from there, with their executives no doubt luxuriating on lawn chairs in between checking their options and playing golf on breezy, verdant courses.  But I have too much love of the old C&O lines and WM to go on hating CSX for being CSX forever.  And each new derailment or screw-up they have adds to the spice of life.  And you got to have someone to compare NS to with a smile. 

Laugh [(-D]

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Posted by Milwhiawatha on Tuesday, June 26, 2007 4:45 PM
all of them....Actually CNW was the one I hated but I now have a couple of rollingstock and a locomotive of theirs.
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Posted by EL PARRo on Tuesday, June 26, 2007 4:48 PM
None. While there are many railroads that I feel indifferent toward, there are not any that I would say I hate, or even dislike.
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Posted by RedGrey62 on Tuesday, June 26, 2007 4:52 PM

I think its natural to "hate" the railroads that now run over territory of a predecessor road.  Especially now that some RRs don't include the previous RRs in their new names.  Plus its always easy to hate the big guys.

My least favorite (notice I didn't say hate) is Union Pacific.  Lots of reasons. probably none of them really any good.  But if I get stopped at a crossing with UP stuff, I'm just as excited as any other RR.

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Posted by CPRail modeler on Tuesday, June 26, 2007 4:56 PM
 shawnee wrote:

And each new derailment or screw-up they have adds to the spice of life.

check out www.CSX-Sucks.com. if you really hate CSX, go there

as for my most DISLIKED that would have to be CNRail. they have so many derailments that polutte the rivers in Canada. to pay it off, they pay a small fraction of the damage. their paint schemes and locomotives are OK but they keep getting rid of so many locomotives. its just like the WC SD45s. those were all cut up along with a majority of the BCRail equipment. at least the CPR kept some TH&B heritage alive without repaints. if not, i would have an NW2 in the action red scheme. i just wish that BCRail was bought by CPRail because then i would see more CPRail stuff rolling through Squamish.

guess we all have to contend with this...

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Posted by shawnee on Tuesday, June 26, 2007 5:00 PM
Ok, how about "Railroads you enjoy disliking with great enthusiasm"?  Wink [;)] Does that sound better?
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Posted by WCfan on Tuesday, June 26, 2007 5:07 PM

I started a thread kinda like this awhile ago. But compeletly oppsite. It's intitled, Can you really hate other railroads?

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Posted by loathar on Tuesday, June 26, 2007 5:26 PM
Sorry. I'm still drawing a blank even with the new criteria. If it's a train, it's COOL!Cool [8D]
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Posted by shawnee on Tuesday, June 26, 2007 5:32 PM

It's not the trains to dislike, it's the railroad. Wink [;)]  The trains are cool.  Especially if they are dirty.  I've never seen a clean CSX engine. 

 

 

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Posted by SpaceMouse on Tuesday, June 26, 2007 5:36 PM
New York Central (or anything else remotely associated with the Yankees.)

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Posted by shawnee on Tuesday, June 26, 2007 5:41 PM

Spacemouse...The New York Central or Penn Central...which was worse?  Wasn't the Penn Central singularly the worst managed railroad in history?

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Posted by Cox 47 on Tuesday, June 26, 2007 5:49 PM
I like them all but can't warm up to the CN for taking over Illinois Central.....Cox 47
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Posted by Teditor on Tuesday, June 26, 2007 6:06 PM

Railroads is railroads

Trains is trains

I love em all

Just the same!

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Posted by selector on Tuesday, June 26, 2007 6:20 PM

 SpaceMouse wrote:
New York Central (or anything else remotely associated with the Yankees.)

HEY!!!    DON'T MAKE ME COME OVER THERE....!!!

You can get back in my good books if you say good things about the Pennsy. Mischief [:-,]

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, June 26, 2007 6:28 PM
I like it, but if I had to choose my least favorite, it would be the Pennsylvania Railroad. It's just so popular that sometimes I can't stand it.
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Posted by shawnee on Tuesday, June 26, 2007 6:30 PM

I have indeed heard on precision advice that Pennsy fans are foamers.  Dave V. beware!

Personally, I like the Pennsy. Wink [;)]

Now, I'm honestly looking for guidance here...what did the New York Central have to recommend itself?  Mischief [:-,]

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Posted by lvanhen on Tuesday, June 26, 2007 7:07 PM
I dislike - not hate - all railroads that got rid of steam!!  That leaves my UP in my good graces!!!!Big Smile [:D]
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Posted by WCfan on Tuesday, June 26, 2007 7:34 PM

 lvanhen wrote:
I dislike - not hate - all railroads that got rid of steam!!  That leaves my UP in my good graces!!!!Big Smile [:D]

What about railroads that never had steam? Like WC. Laugh [(-D]

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Posted by Dave Vollmer on Tuesday, June 26, 2007 7:34 PM
 shawnee wrote:

I have indeed heard on precision advice that Pennsy fans are foamers.  Dave V. beware!

Personally, I like the Pennsy. Wink [;)]

Now, I'm honestly looking for guidance here...what did the New York Central have to recommend itself?  Mischief [:-,]

I am a proud foamer!!!  Eight Ball [8]  In fact, we have a special acronym for ourselves:

SPF - Serious Pennsy FanGrumpy [|(]

...often mistaken by non-PRR fans to stand for:

Slobbering Pennsy FanTongue [:P]

As for my least favorite railroad, I know it should be New York Central...  but I don't mind it.  I don't know.  I will say non-US railroads hold less interest for me.

I should hate Conrail for ripping up so much former PRR...  or should I hate Penn Central for running the PRR into the ground?  After all, PC also abandoned a lot of marginal PRR track that Hurricane Agnes destroyed in 1972.  In the end, though, PRR was itself largely responsible for its own demise because of a combination of poor priorities and failure to adjust in a timely manner to a changing world.  So, should I hate the railroad I love?  Oooh, how deep is that?Mischief [:-,]

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Posted by MilwaukeeRoad on Tuesday, June 26, 2007 7:37 PM
Soo Line..sorta.
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Posted by selector on Tuesday, June 26, 2007 7:53 PM
 shawnee wrote:

...Now, I'm honestly looking for guidance here...what did the New York Central have to recommend itself?  Mischief [:-,]

Okay, for starters, it ran steam engines.  That, by itself, should be good for a grudging nod.

It partnered with the CPR to own 80% of the Toronto, Hamilton & Buffalo Ry to bridge the distance between the Yankee states and Trahnah (it's how the locals pronounce it).

It saw the need, and ordered the construction for, the wonderful J-series Hudson 4-6-4 type that was used across N. America.

Last, but not least, it designed and gestated this beauty in the foreground.  Behind her is another mighty engine, but from its arch-rival, the Pennsy.   A bevy of beaties, all in one shot.

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Posted by WCfan on Tuesday, June 26, 2007 7:55 PM
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Crash National.......poor, poor mantainance history and bad enviromental awareness.

David B

I turely to my heart, HATE, CN. There Crashing Nationaly, and wanted WC only for it's Main line. They also made the SD45 more endangered, to almost extinct.Sad [:(]
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Posted by shawnee on Tuesday, June 26, 2007 8:06 PM

CP Rail...OMG, that CSX site is rabidBig Smile [:D]

Anyway..i read that someone once loved the Penn Central...y'know, after they killed all the good stuff and decided their business was real estate and all.  Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by Paul3 on Tuesday, June 26, 2007 8:09 PM

I think this sort of says it all: 

The biggest failure in American business history until Enron, Penn Central was a merger mistake that took almost 30 years to correct.  And this is not just that the PC took over the NH (of which I am a fan of), it's also how they treated the NH's thousands of employees as good-for-nothin' bums that also rankles.  The PC was poorly managed, poorly maintained, and spent more time with infighting then in running a RR.  The PC should never have happened in the first place, and nothing good took place between 1968 and 1976 on the PC.  It was a terrible RR during a terrible era in American RR'ing.  Even their paint scheme stunk.  Ick.

Now, as far as other RR's?  CSX is pretty bad.  2nd place, if you will.  They seem determined to run their RR into the ground (literally), and they can't seem to stop "ping-ponging" freight cars back to the shipper still loaded with what it left with.  Sigh. 

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Posted by shawnee on Tuesday, June 26, 2007 8:23 PM

Ok Selector, I'm down now (in a good way) with the New York Central.  It had some cool posters, after all (one of which hangs in my living room).

Now Amtrak is a railroad that's really hard to love.

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, June 26, 2007 8:33 PM
 Teditor wrote:

Railroads is railroads

Trains is trains

I love em all

Just the same!

Teditor 

I'll have to agree with that, although I don't care for the new "Pan Am Railways" name, logo, and paint scheme. I liked the old Guilford one, but don't like a RR being named after an airline.

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Posted by espeefoamer on Tuesday, June 26, 2007 8:43 PM
The first one will be obvious from my username. UNION PACIFIC!Dead [xx(] Since I am also a Pennsy fan, I hate New York Central,too.I can't hate Penn Central,because they ran GG1s,my favorite electric loco.Big Smile [:D]
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Posted by lvanhen on Tuesday, June 26, 2007 8:56 PM
 WCfan wrote:

 lvanhen wrote:
I dislike - not hate - all railroads that got rid of steam!!  That leaves my UP in my good graces!!!!Big Smile [:D]

What about railroads that never had steam? Like WC. Laugh [(-D]

If they never had steam, are they really a railroad?Wink [;)]

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Posted by WCfan on Tuesday, June 26, 2007 9:07 PM
 lvanhen wrote:
 WCfan wrote:

 lvanhen wrote:
I dislike - not hate - all railroads that got rid of steam!!  That leaves my UP in my good graces!!!!Big Smile [:D]

What about railroads that never had steam? Like WC. Laugh [(-D]

If they never had steam, are they really a railroad?Wink [;)]

HA HA HA.(Sarcasum laugh) Here's what I came up with.  

rail·road [ráyl r?d]
n (plural rail·roads)
1.  track made of rails: a track consisting of steel rails usually fastened to wood or concrete ties, designed to carry a locomotive and its cars or anything similar. Also called road
U.K. term railway n.1
2.  rail system: a network of railroad lines, together with the trains, buildings, equipment, and staff needed to operate a rail transport system, or the organization or company that owns or runs this. U.K. term railway n.2

Encarta ® World English Dictionary © & (P) 1998-2004 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

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Posted by SD60M on Tuesday, June 26, 2007 9:09 PM
 WCfan wrote:
 davidmbedard wrote:

Crash National.......poor, poor mantainance history and bad enviromental awareness.

David B

I turely to my heart, HATE, CN. There Crashing Nationaly, and wanted WC only for it's Main line. They also made the SD45 more endangered, to almost extinct.Sad [:(]
Same with me they took Illinois Central away i HATE them for that. IC has alot of history for example CASEY JONES, the original SD40! They run through memphis now and i dont like it. I finally saw an IC unit after 2 years of seeing CN. There like UP taking all the smaller roads away!
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