pet peeves

[Noah Hofrichter]

I hate it when my friends at school call it my "train set." As has been said before it is a MODEL RAILROAD. They used to call it a choo choo train. I would realy get mad then.[:(!][V]

A Also hate when companies say they're going to release something and they don't do it for along time. Especially when I've got it on order at the LHS

Noah

[Budliner]

my sisters cat
killed my layout 20 years ago
cat is still around tigger
well he dident mean it

[AggroJones]

http://www.broadway-limited.com/products/images/nwhopper/many.jpg

Those new BLI hoppers are very impressive. But note the cost. $150 for 6 cars! Too high indeed!

[Anonymous]

I have no objection to rivet counters. I object to their rivet counting in my basement. I don't like the use of "train set", but I understand that's what the uninitiated are going to call a layout. Female visitors to my layout are not allowed to use the word "cute". Maybe that's why there are no female visitors, except for my wife. She persues her hobbies on the other side of the basement and I build and run trains on my side and we respect each other's achievements. Her experience in faux painting, etc. let her to ask if she could paint some backdrops for me. How can I complain about that? I saw some of the faux painting work she did in a class at Home Depot and she can paint a sky backdrop for me anytime!

Ed Briley
Independence, MO

[easyaces]

QUOTE: Originally posted by preceng

I concur with "Train Set". "Oh....he's downstairs playing with his train set." They just don't get it ... ... do they guys?

[:(!] "train Set"? Now thats one that really gripes me! To me a train set is something for little kids to take out of its box to play with , then put it away when you're done. Sorry, but I have a hobby of Model RailRoading with scale model trains, and I don't play with a "train set"!

[Anonymous]

1. People shaking their heads and asking "How many trains do you have?!?", with the implication being that my hobby is a waste of money in their eyes.

2. Limited run items that are sold out even before the release announcement.

3. When your club is having a "work session", and less than 10 per cent of the membership even bothers to show up.

4. eBay sellers who don't put road numbers in their item description.

**vent mode off**

[Anonymous]

Pet peeves?

1) Visiting my favorite hobby shop, filled with male patrons usually. The occasional female drops in with another female friend and complains about all the guys there...as though we're all molesters, waiting to attack the child or her. This isn't a raunchy adult bookstore, ladies! We're there for the hobby, not you! (No offense intended towards women who do patronize hobby shops and get as much a kick out of being there as I do! [:)])

2) Repeated phone calls about something placed on back-order and being told "It's coming." I know it's coming, but will it be this millennium or the next?!?[:(]

3) Nit-picking twits at the LHS whom seem to always have a comment or two while waiting behind you in the check-out line in respect to what you're holding. I've been asked rather sarcastically several times, "What are you buying that for?" Obviously I want it, you ***! What other reason would I have it?[:(!]

If I seem a bit cranky this morning, I apologize to the forum. Haven't had my obligatory two cups of coffee yet and I'm feeling down right onery![(-D]

[Anonymous]

Too many "peeves" to designate any as "Pet "....since "Pet" denotes something unique, or at least rather outstanding.

Peeves..in no particular order...
-The cost direction the hobby has taken.[V]
-Evangelical rivet counters[:o)]...enjoy whatever you prefer...just don't PREACH to everyone else...(I don't like Jerry Falwell, either).
-Evangelical DCC'ers[xx(]...same as above, so, STOP with the preaching already.....(I don't like Jimmy Swaggert, either).
-Ebay whiners.....has any of these folks ever been to a real, live auction ? Everybody , except for one person, actually loses out on what they want, to the final bidder. Get over it, or don't patronize auctions at all.[V]
-Idiot parents at train shows...[B)]and there are more and more of these every year....and the rotten little ankle-biters they have spawned.
-Folks who post gigantic signature-pictures on these threads, like this one, ruining the readability of the thread for everyone else.[:(]
-Retailers who take us for granted, even when we have been loyal and regular customers.[:p]
-Posters who just HAVE to answer forum questions incorrectly, with either zero knowledge of the subject, or with neither patience, nor ability to read the question correctly.[:0]
-Threads and posts generated for the sole purpose of running up post-counts..the "Star Search" crowd.[:o)]

Anyway, my pet peeves don't include those unfortunates who like to ask about "whether I still play with toy trains"...especially in front of others. My response is "Yes I still do....do you still subscribe to Hustler ?"...or "Do you still take medication as part of that spousal abuse program you were in ?"...this goes for anyone...in the house or out, whether friend, relative, whoever.
regards;
Mike[;)][:D]

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Jetrock

I'm 34 years old and I play with my darned trains.

I don't shove 'em around the track going "choo-choo", but if I spend twelve hours painstakingly detailing a model or nailing down track or debugging my wiring or trying to fix that infuriating spot on the layout that always causes a derailment, I'm doing it because it's FUN, and if it's FUN then I'm PLAYING.

Becoming a skilled musician takes years of practice and patience, but when a skilled musician takes to the stage, regardless of how skilled or respected or how much he or she is being paid, they're PLAYING their instrument. So if Jimi Hendix could play guitar, I can play TRAINS!

Jetrock, my hat is off to you!! I will turn 33 on monday 3-15 , andI PLAY with my trains. I spend many hours laboring to detail my locos and rolling stock, or whatever ,but th point is ... I HAVE FUN EVERY SECOND I SPEND WITH MY TRAINS, SO THEREFORE ,I DO PLAY WITH THEM!!
My REAL pet peeve is the little bent rods under your couplers that allows for magnetic uncoupling!! Most of us spend countless hours detailing our trains, making them "accurate" (no I'm NOT a "rivet counter",either!), but then when you put them down on the rails , in a decorated scene, and those uncoupler rods STAND OUT!!!!!!... Making it OBVIOUS that SOMETHING is out of place. Unless it's impossible to reach your rolling stock to uncoulpe them, then I think magnetic uncoupling is overkill, REAL TRAINS ARE UNCOUPLED MANUALLY, AREN'T THEY??

[Anonymous]

I don't want to just complain--I want to offer solutions, and so beneath each pet peeve I will say how to exact revenge. I am more of a railfan than a modeler, so most of these have to do with my favorite scale: 1/1 [:)].

As such, my pet peeves in no particular order are:
1.) People who use the phrase "steam train." Is the train hauling steam? Didn't think so. I don't hear the phrase "diesel train" much, now do I? Please, just say steam locomotive!

Revenge: Give complete railway grammar lesson, pontificating on the correct uses of "lashup," "train," "consist," "locomotive," "car," and so forth.

2.) People who hear that I like trains, and then look at me (and talk to me) like I have a cognitive disability, because I share an interest with their six-year-old.

Revenge: Matter-of-factly say the following: "The other day I read a very engaging article on the efficincies of Wagner Bypass Valves. Now according to Pascal's principles of fluid dynamics...."

3.) People who complain about sounds made by trains. I'm sick-and-tired of hearing people complain about locomotive horns. If you don't like them, then move! I for one like the sound. There are two exceptions: a) "It sounds like (insert name of your arch-enemy here)'s locomotive has a flat bearing; and b) "These light rail cars can't compair with the GP9's which used to come through here."

Revenge: Get engineers certification, and drive trains on main line with horn blowing as loud as possible, and never turn off the bell!

4.) People who say I have a "trainset," when really a trainset is a group of cars sharing common trucks like the M-10000 or the Pioneer Zephyr.

Revenge: See no. 1.

I hope you enjoyed my complaints,
Daniel

[Anonymous]

Another peeve: Models where you have to remove the couplers before removing the bodyshell, turning a simple lube or cleaning job into a game of "find the tiny coupler screw/spring that went ping into oblivion". Bachmann managed to make their Dash 8s so the couplers are completely body-mounted, I'm sure others have too, so why on earth do some manufacturers not do this? I'm specifically talking about Athearn locos - this is the only flaw in an otherwise superb product in my opinion.

Also,locos where you have to do a lot of work to fit Kadees - given how long these couplers have been available for, it's amazing that even new locos sometimes need surgery to fit them. Also locos where you need to use offset couplers to achieve the correct height, and you need to use a tiny drill/tap set that is unavailable anywhere near you...(My SD40T has the coupler boxes held on with a smear of Cyanoacrylate until I can find the right drill and tap to fit them with the bolts provided - this is also hampering my planned detailing work as I can't fit a pilot plough without making the body unremovable)

Spleen vented. Feel better now!

[Anonymous]

Online surveys. [:D]
People who don't know how to use "they're", "there", and "their" correctly, and "doesn't" and "don't". This is 5 or 6th grade level english.

I don't complain about that, but it's definately a huge peeve.

[Anonymous]

I agree with the previous poster on errors in grammer, but you spelled definitely wrong.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by robmik

Too many "peeves" to designate any as "Pet "....since "Pet" denotes something unique, or at least rather outstanding.

Peeves..in no particular order...
-The cost direction the hobby has taken.[V]
-Evangelical rivet counters[:o)]...enjoy whatever you prefer...just don't PREACH to everyone else...(I don't like Jerry Falwell, either).
-Evangelical DCC'ers[xx(]...same as above, so, STOP with the preaching already.....(I don't like Jimmy Swaggert, either).
-Ebay whiners.....has any of these folks ever been to a real, live auction ? Everybody , except for one person, actually loses out on what they want, to the final bidder. Get over it, or don't patronize auctions at all.[V]
-Idiot parents at train shows...[B)]and there are more and more of these every year....and the rotten little ankle-biters they have spawned.
-Folks who post gigantic signature-pictures on these threads, like this one, ruining the readability of the thread for everyone else.[:(]
-Retailers who take us for granted, even when we have been loyal and regular customers.[:p]
-Posters who just HAVE to answer forum questions incorrectly, with either zero knowledge of the subject, or with neither patience, nor ability to read the question correctly.[:0]
-Threads and posts generated for the sole purpose of running up post-counts..the "Star Search" crowd.[:o)]

Anyway, my pet peeves don't include those unfortunates who like to ask about "whether I still play with toy trains"...especially in front of others. My response is "Yes I still do....do you still subscribe to Hustler ?"...or "Do you still take medication as part of that spousal abuse program you were in ?"...this goes for anyone...in the house or out, whether friend, relative, whoever.
regards;
Mike[;)][:D]

ROBMIK, Chill out man, you're going to have a heart attack and deprive everyone here of your vast insight on the world. You really don't want to do that, do you?

My pet peeves, rivit counters and my D@%& hemroids, they're both in about the same league.



ROBNI

[trainfan1221]

Pet peeves? Well, our trains are not TOY trains, they are realistic models. And we do not play with them, we operate them. You want to play with toy trains? I`m sure there are battery powered and wind up ones out there.
Oh, and also, I am sick of THOMAS.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by trainfan1221

Pet peeves? Well, our trains are not TOY trains, they are realistic models. And we do not play with them, we operate them. You want to play with toy trains? I`m sure there are battery powered and wind up ones out there.
Oh, and also, I am sick of THOMAS.

[#ditto][#ditto][#ditto][#ditto]

[dragenrider]

[:(!][:(!][:(!] My pet peeve is starting a project and realizing I didn't buy everything I needed on my last hobby shop visit. And the nearest hobby shop is over an hour away! [:(][:(]

By the way, in response to the comments made by wives and girlfriends I have to tell this little story:

A girl I had dated for two years was told by her sister that if she and I ever married then the trains would have to go. My girlfriend smiled at her sister and explained that if I had to decide between her and my trains, she knew she would be first out the door! Now that's understanding! [tup]

My wife (not the same girl) is very aware of my attachment. After all, she parks her sports car under a tree so I can have the entire one-car garage. She's even offered to let me put them in the living room. What a woman! [:X]

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by emeraldisle
ROBMIK, Chill out man, you're going to have a heart attack and deprive everyone here of your vast insight on the world. You really don't want to do that, do you?
My pet peeves, rivit counters and my D@%& hemroids, they're both in about the same league.
ROBNI

Thanks Emeraldisle...I didn't know you cared.[:D][:D][:X][:X]

Oh, I forgot..."rivit" and hemroids" are DEFINITELY in the same league....the league of "not words". [;)]
BUT....Sorry you have 'em...and hope March 17 is a good day for you, and for everyone else from the actual Emerald Isle.[^][^][^]
Mike

[Anonymous]

Other parents at train shows who give me dirty looks for repramanding my children on not touching or slapping a hand that needed it!

These forums not having spell check

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: I agree with the previous poster on errors in grammer, but you spelled definitely wrong.

Touche. (picture the line over the 'e')

[Anonymous]

I hate it when I finish something that I put a lot of effort in, and then people downplay my acheivements!

I just finished the Benchwork for my layout with my money that I earned cleaning storerooms for local hardware stores.
Then my parents say "just clean up the mess"

(I'm 14)

[AggroJones]

My Arthritus! It makes typing suck!

[dano99a]

***BEGIN VENT PROCESS***

1: ebay, sellers and buyers, they are all a pain in the ***
SOLUTION: go to a real auction THEN come back

2: ebay sellers who charge too much for something that can be bought cheaper on other sites on the net with shipping.
SOLUTION: RESEARCH before selling

3: Hobby shops that charge twice the amount for something compared to the other store down the street and have the nerve to wonder why they can't sell anything.
SOLUTION: Open you eyes or go out of business

4: People who complain about how a web site is ran or built.
SOLUTION: Build your own and you'll find out why, until then, go away unless your opinion is asked for.

5: DCC Preachers
SOLUTION: I use DCC but please, shut up. Most folks use computers now days and no one was beating us over the head about it when they came out.

6: DC Hardliners
SOLUTION: You and the DCC crew sound like some people I hear daily arguing over what is better windows or macintosh, THEY BOTH WORK. leave it at that.

7: Opinionated people on forums
SOLUTION: Forums were made to help one another in the form of discussion, not to make people feel small, remember??? Help People??

8: The phrase "What are you doing? Playing with your trains???"
SOLUTION: um.... did you say something?

9: Train enthusiests who don't know the difference between Scale model trains and Collectable toy trains.
SOLUTION: sell everything you own train wise, and just watch.

10: People who complain about people posting on forums just to post.
SOLUTION: Well, it may seem that way but maybe they have never been on one and are become atuned to the idea of sharing their thoughts (right or wrong). Welcome them, don't insult them. Because the more you insult and talk down to or about these people will render this forum useless because no one wants to be angered when all they want is an answer.

11: People who write novels on forums, like this one. [:)]

*** END VENT PROCESS***

[Anonymous]

And what about those that play around?

[Anonymous]

People who deny that they play with their model trains:

If you do it for fun, you're not payed for it, and you're practically adicted to it, then you're playing!!!! It's okay to admit that you're playing with toy trains--after all, the hobby is about fun, isn't it?

[Anonymous]

Having a booth at a swap meet right next to guy selling wooden train whistles, especially if he's wearing a conductor's uniform and a hat. Or worse being right next to vendor in an engineer's hat and overalls with authentic dirt all over it selling (loud) recordings of diesel horns. Either way, buyers avoid your booth or you can't hear them. It's even worse if the conductor or engineer eats stinky food all day and want to talk to you all the time right up close in your face with their stinky breath and only say stupid things. And if you're lucky enough to still get a buyer, there is always some dorky guy - usually two people wide - blocking half of your booth reading every old Model Railroader you're offering for $1.ea. Then a soccer mom comes along with three kids (total of eight hands) and they proceed to open every box, fondle your superdetailed diesel and then run the 'steam train w/ the coal car" all over the table; then she says "we're just looking' after you diplomatically request that she control her unruly offspring, and she further adds "this is a toy show isn't it!?"

[Anonymous]

1: Every time my grandma hears a train she says: "There goes the choo choo!". Good God it is annoying! [:(!]

2: My mother: "stop playing with your toys. Grown men don't play with toys. GRRR!

[Anonymous]

The term turnout. I HATE THAT! Its a switch!

[Anonymous]

dougal: Switch= real life switch on a real life RR.
Turnout= model RR term for switch.
Modelers and Rail-fans have different terms. Yes, it's annoying! (even though I say turnout and switch)

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: 2: My mother: "stop playing with your toys. Grown men don't play with toys. GRRR

Grown men don't live with their mothers. [:P] Just teasing.