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Posted by pcarrell on Friday, February 9, 2007 11:16 AM
I know the parts would be tiny on a working wig-wag, but I figured a wire actuator with a motor under the table would do it.  Guess I may have to look at doing a modification on these if nobody can turn me on to a working one.
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Posted by Dave Vollmer on Friday, February 9, 2007 10:59 AM
 pcarrell wrote:

 pcarrell wrote:
I've seen wig-wags in N scale (about halfway down the page: http://www.njinternational.com/nscale_crossings.htm ), but they're all static models.  Does anyone know of any working ones?  Or maybe how to make them?

Nobody has anything on these?

No, sir!  Although I do have NJ International PRR PL signals, and they're pretty reliable.

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Posted by pcarrell on Friday, February 9, 2007 10:50 AM

 pcarrell wrote:
I've seen wig-wags in N scale (about halfway down the page: http://www.njinternational.com/nscale_crossings.htm ), but they're all static models.  Does anyone know of any working ones?  Or maybe how to make them?

Nobody has anything on these?

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, February 7, 2007 6:56 PM

What have I been doing____????

I have backed off doing scenery, it was getting to boring. I have almost completed a total re-wire of my layout.When I first put the layout together, it was get the track down and get things running. If you looked under my table you couldn't tell what was wire and what was spider webs. Now all the wires are neatlly bundeled and on numbered terminal blocks. So far I have installed about 50 terminal blocks, thats an assortment of 2, 3, and 6 lug terminal blocks. I found a low cost source for the blocks ( http://www.alliedelec.com/ ). It's cheaper that what I have found on eBay. Some of you may say "oh wow it's no big deal to re-wire a layout." When you have 20 power blocks and 20 switch machines I think it's no small job.

While I have been waiting for more terminal blocks to come in the mail I have completed a drawing for my control panel. I realized I can wire two or more switch machines to one electrical switch as these switch machine work in tandem with each other. So I have cut my number of electrical switches for switch machines from 20 to 13.

When I complete the track wireing it's back to the scenery. Then it's back to wireing up the lighting ( damn more terminal blocks.)

That's all I've been doing.

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, February 7, 2007 5:29 PM

Congratulations, Dave.

Our son-in-law completed his Doctorate last year and is doing his post-doctorate lab stuff in San Francisco. He's a research-type doc. His dissertation consisted of words at least 23 letters in length dealing with cells at the nuclear level. I have no idea what he does Confused [%-)]

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Posted by Cox 47 on Wednesday, February 7, 2007 4:20 PM
I havn't posted here since page 1....Igotta do better...I have been working on a couple of junk boxer's" I got off Ebay....One a old Model power FA.....Had to turn it into a dummy when the motor fried and a Atlas RS that the jury is still out on....Today I started a cardstock Yard Office using plans in the new RMC....and started work on a transfer caboose....How about it what are you working on..Planning...Gathering parts for...Maybe a little more N scale Modeling might keep this on page 1....Cox 47
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Posted by SpaceMouse on Wednesday, February 7, 2007 4:02 PM

Congrats Dave,

I was an All-but when my mail-order/Internet business took off in 1993. I couldn't put in 70 hrs/week in the business and 70 in the dissertation. Something had to give and I was making more than my profs. Still I have to admire those who see it through.  

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Posted by NS2591 on Wednesday, February 7, 2007 3:45 PM
Hi guys. I'm starting to look at ways to operate my layout. I can read N scale reporting mark although I'd prefer not to. What are some of the ways you guys operate your layout. A method that a friend of mine used on his HO layout, He wrote down what cars went where, What train had those cars, and you picked you train from a list of trains. One problem he always had is more cars on one end than the other.
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Posted by pcarrell on Wednesday, February 7, 2007 2:46 PM
I've seen wig-wags in N scale (about halfway down the page: http://www.njinternational.com/nscale_crossings.htm ), but they're all static models.  Does anyone know of any working ones?  Or maybe how to make them?
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Posted by R. T. POTEET on Tuesday, February 6, 2007 11:18 PM
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Aww, come on now guys!  Page 6!?!


Thanks, Philip.  I have a question which I am going to broach to the (N-Scale) readership but I believe I will wait until this coming weekend to post it; it is not necessarily uniquely N-Scale although it is pointed in an N-Scale direction and involves an article published in one of the (N-Scale) hobby mags a few years back.  I will guarantee you that this will end the weekend on page one or two. 

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Posted by pcarrell on Tuesday, February 6, 2007 10:40 PM
Aww, come on now guys!  Page 6!?!
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, February 4, 2007 12:15 AM

I made some changes to the control panel schematic. Please view the new drawing in my original post.

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Posted by nscaler711 on Saturday, February 3, 2007 9:49 PM

RT well if u dont want me to respond back then dont comment me

also i dont speak in a way that most missourians do, in fact i hate this state it sucks. hardly any hobby stores that supply n scale, and the weather is well terrible too hot too cold never in between 

also my brain goes 3x as fast as my fingers therefore i forget what im going to type before i actually type it........also jocular isnt used any more......perhaps before my time  

all i want to do is get back to my fav. thing in the world, trains, n-scale at least 

finally Nscale.net is a great forum place

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Posted by pcarrell on Saturday, February 3, 2007 7:48 PM

WOW, tough room!

While I agree that it is much easier to read a well written and carefully thought out response, I also know that there are people here on the forum who are from different backgrounds, and indeed some of them are from other countries and this may be the only place that they get to "practice" their english. 

It used to bother me more in the past when I tried to read a poorly constructed post, but I've learned to try to see it from the other persons point of view.  For example, on another forum I frequent, there is a guy on there who writes very poorly.  I'm not sure why, because he seems intelligent, maybe he doesn't proof read, maybe he doesn't care, but reading some of his posts is like trying to decipher a forgien language.  But I try to figure out what he's talking about and then respond to him because that's what I would want someone to do for me.  I don't use perfect english all the time, and I expect a little mercy for my occasional butchery of the language.  I try to extend that to others as well.

Some minor civility and some allowences for each others faults might go a long way towards all of us being able to converse in a much more productive, and friendly, manner.

R.T., in the past, as you admit, there have been some instances of,.......ummmm,......tension.  When I read your post the other day I almost asked what was up with that myself, but I wrote it off.  But I can see where the others are coming from.  You tend to be very outspoken, and I like that about you.  But you have to realize that when you is in the position of being the outspoken one, it's very possible that some my take you wrong and not understand what you're saying.  Many great leaders of the past have fallen prey to this very thing.  See, the thing is, others can't know what you're thinking when you say things, unless you're VERY clear.  The less clear you are, the more risk you run of being misunderstood.  You're post the other day could easily be taken a couple of ways.  When someone voiced a misunderstanding of your meaning, it might have been a good time to calmly and carefully have explained what you really meant so that the very thing we see here might have been avoided.

All, R.T. is a valued member of this forum and a friend of the hobby, and because of that, he is a friend of ours.  We should treat him, and everyone else, as such.

Now, what do you say we put this all behind us and move on, huh?

Dave, congarts on the "next step"!  I'm a ways behind you myself, but your diligence is an inspiration.  Keep it up!

A question for the group: What is the story on the Bachmann 2-6-6-2?  I've heard this thing is a dog, that it can't get out of it's own way.  I've heard that it can't haul five or six cars up a 1% grade.  Is this true?  I was thinking of getting one, and I'm not scared to tinker, but is it a lost cause?  Is it just so riddled with problems that it should be avoided like the plague?

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Posted by andrechapelon on Saturday, February 3, 2007 7:39 PM

HO:  27,048 (42% of the acutions)

O:  20,746 (32% of the auctions)

Sure these numbers will fluctuate, but I don't see how you can possibly say that "O scale auctions are by far the most dominant in the eBay world, far eclipsing HO."  Without going into detail, I'm certain that there are many other eBay categories that far eclipse all of MRR'ing combined!

Also, don't put too much stock in the O auctions as they include both 2 rail O SCALE and three rail O GAUGE. Much of the 3 rail stuff in under sized for fully scale O.

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Posted by MAbruce on Saturday, February 3, 2007 6:19 PM
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 MAbruce wrote:

This is purely non-scientific, but it's interesting that I just checked eBay and the N-scale auctions represented 14% of the overall model railroad auctions.  Pretty close to that 13% figure...

eBay auctions are not an accurate indicator oh scale representation of the hobby. O scale auctions are by far the most dominant in the eBay world, far eclipsing HO. 

Ah, didn't I say it was purely non-scientific??

I also suggest that you recheck your numbers.  I just checked the MRR auction totals and HO leads 0 scale:

HO:  27,048 (42% of the acutions)

O:  20,746 (32% of the auctions)

Sure these numbers will fluctuate, but I don't see how you can possibly say that "O scale auctions are by far the most dominant in the eBay world, far eclipsing HO."  Without going into detail, I'm certain that there are many other eBay categories that far eclipse all of MRR'ing combined!

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Posted by R. T. POTEET on Saturday, February 3, 2007 4:16 PM
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 R. T. POTEET wrote:
 nscaler711 wrote:
RT what is wrong with u why do u want to fight with people u dont know people who r older younger or same age as u ........... we are all here for the love of n-scale trains


Why aren't you spending quality time with your Remedial English tutor this morning?

Wow, just because people aren't bickering doesn't mean you should go out and try to pick a fight.   That being said, there are much nicer ways to tell nscaler711 that it would benefit him and all those who read is posts for him to spend a minute or two extra checking his spelling & grammar... perhaps a Private Message?



claymore1977, my "Pick a Fight" response was generated by the fact that when I went looking for The "N" Crowd last Thursday evening I found it way back on page 5.  I put something in just so that I could bring it back up to page 1.  My response was meant to be jocular.  (For you people in Columbia, Missouri that means "funny").  I don't pick fights with anybody; I will own up that I have got into some brouhahas here on the forum involving points of view regarding modelling.  No one else appears to have taken my response seriously; do you have any idea why nscaler711 did?

(Notice that I did not say in this response that I wish that nscaler711 would stop responding to my responses because I do not have the time or assets to retain an interpreter who can translate Missouri for me!  I was inclined to do that but I practiced restraint!)

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Posted by R. T. POTEET on Saturday, February 3, 2007 3:58 PM
 Dave Vollmer wrote:
 R. T. POTEET wrote:
 Dave Vollmer wrote:

Well, I passed my written PhD candidacy exams.  Now I can do a little more N scale modeling.  Up next is adding a Trainphone antenna to the new GP9 I got for Christmas.



Congratulations!!  Can we continue to call you Dave or would you prefer we begin referring to you as The Great Pooh-bah?

ATTN; NSCALER711 - I KNOW YOU ARE NOT GOING TO
 UNDERSTAND THIS RESPONSE SO LET ME PRE-RESPOND TO YOUR  RESPONSE TO MY RESPONSE; HUH???

Still just Dave...  The writtens are just part of the picture.  Still have orals, the dissertation, and the defense to go.  Baby steps...



I have a granddaughter who just entered her doctoral program (chemistry) at the University of Illinois-Champaign/Urbana.  She may be just a little bit further along than you but not much; I haven't talked to her in awhile but I know that you and she both have awesome tasks ahead of you.  I  was 2/3 of the way through my master's program in history when I dropped out in 1981; I wanted to concentrate on my fiction writing but I've kind of dropped out of that also. 

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Posted by claymore1977 on Saturday, February 3, 2007 2:46 PM

 R. T. POTEET wrote:
 nscaler711 wrote:
RT what is wrong with u why do u want to fight with people u dont know people who r older younger or same age as u ........... we are all here for the love of n-scale trains


Why aren't you spending quality time with your Remedial English tutor this morning?

Wow, just because people aren't bickering doesn't mean you should go out and try to pick a fight.   That being said, there are much nicer ways to tell nscaler711 that it would benefit him and all those who read is posts for him to spend a minute or two extra checking his spelling & grammar... perhaps a Private Message?

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Posted by Dave Vollmer on Saturday, February 3, 2007 2:13 PM
 R. T. POTEET wrote:
 Dave Vollmer wrote:

Well, I passed my written PhD candidacy exams.  Now I can do a little more N scale modeling.  Up next is adding a Trainphone antenna to the new GP9 I got for Christmas.



Congratulations!!  Can we continue to call you Dave or would you prefer we begin referring to you as The Great Pooh-bah?

ATTN; NSCALER711 - I KNOW YOU ARE NOT GOING TO UNDERSTAND THIS RESPONSE SO LET ME PRE-RESPOND TO YOUR  RESPONSE TO MY RESPONSE; HUH???

Still just Dave...  The writtens are just part of the picture.  Still have orals, the dissertation, and the defense to go.  Baby steps...

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Posted by R. T. POTEET on Saturday, February 3, 2007 1:32 PM
 nscaler711 wrote:
RT what is wrong with u why do u want to fight with people u dont know people who r older younger or same age as u ........... we are all here for the love of n-scale trains


Why aren't you spending quality time with your Remedial English tutor this morning?

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Posted by R. T. POTEET on Saturday, February 3, 2007 1:18 PM
 Dave Vollmer wrote:

Well, I passed my written PhD candidacy exams.  Now I can do a little more N scale modeling.  Up next is adding a Trainphone antenna to the new GP9 I got for Christmas.



Congratulations!!  Can we continue to call you Dave or would you prefer we begin referring to you as The Great Pooh-bah?

ATTN; NSCALER711 - I KNOW YOU ARE NOT GOING TO UNDERSTAND THIS RESPONSE SO LET ME PRE-RESPOND TO YOUR  RESPONSE TO MY RESPONSE; HUH???

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Posted by Dave Vollmer on Saturday, February 3, 2007 12:38 PM

Well, I passed my written PhD candidacy exams.  Now I can do a little more N scale modeling.  Up next is adding a Trainphone antenna to the new GP9 I got for Christmas.

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Posted by R. T. POTEET on Saturday, February 3, 2007 11:48 AM
 nscaler711 wrote:
RT what is wrong with u why do u want to fight with people u dont know people who r older younger or same age as u ........... we are all here for the love of n-scale trains


HUH????

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Posted by nscaler711 on Friday, February 2, 2007 10:30 PM
RT what is wrong with u why do u want to fight with people u dont know people who r older younger or same age as u ........... we are all here for the love of n-scale trains

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Posted by NS2591 on Friday, February 2, 2007 10:27 PM
Today I layed down one of the 3 passing tracks. So Now I have 2 of the 3 in service. So today I got to operate my layout how it will be sometime soon. If I can get the rest of the UP5s bought and in place and the Torti bought and in place. Along with the other odds and ends I need for the layout then all I'll need then are decoders for almost every loco I own with the exception of my Kato SD70M and my Kato AC4400CW which already have decoders. I also need to get some more cash together and get the pair of Dash 9s and the Pair of SD40-2s off a club member...I need a job...sorry getting off topic. Since today I got to operate my layout how it will be sometime in the future I also demostrated how easily you can run into yourself head onBlush [:I]Sign - Oops [#oops] if you forget to line the switch for the proper direction of travelSmile,Wink, & Grin [swg]
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, February 2, 2007 7:11 PM

I made some changes to the drawing. If you copied the original, delete it and use this one. 

I have created a schematic for a Atlas switch machine with LEDs. This circuit would be used on a control panel.

You can view it at:

http://img.i172.photobucket.com/albums/w1/n0ssy/TrackswitchingcircuitwithmedbrightL.jpg

 

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Posted by Metro Red Line on Friday, February 2, 2007 3:14 PM
 MAbruce wrote:

This is purely non-scientific, but it's interesting that I just checked eBay and the N-scale auctions represented 14% of the overall model railroad auctions.  Pretty close to that 13% figure...

 

eBay auctions are not an accurate indicator oh scale representation of the hobby. O scale auctions are by far the most dominant in the eBay world, far eclipsing HO. 

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Posted by Agamemnon on Friday, February 2, 2007 2:22 PM
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I admire these layouts and their makers, no doubt.  But it'd be nice to show something besides the "top of the line" type layouts.  And to do it more than once an eon, and then be told, "See ?  We do to offer other styles"  :)

  That, and the definitions of "easy" and "small" seem to be a bit skewed :)

I'm going to have to agree with you there. There sure are a lot of basement empires in the mag, and it's getting a bit tedious. I mean, I could not get a layout that big even though I won the lottery, reason being you don't build houses like that in Europe. We don't have basements! :-O

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Posted by NS2591 on Friday, February 2, 2007 2:04 PM
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The Sad part is that leaves me with one engine I can run on my layout right now. my Atlas B40-8...all of my Katos that fit my era that I have are 6 axel and don't have the long shanked couplers on them so when they go around the curves(15"Confused [%-)]) they derail the first car. The only other thing I have that is usable has the same problem my Katos do, its an Athearn SD70M and it derails the first car becuase it needs long couplers. I think I might replace all my curves with Sectional curves. Becuase I can run my coal train with my Kato SD70M and my Kato AC4400CW on the 9 3/4 no problem. but for some reason they derail on my layout. Any thoughts anyone?
I don't understand , do you have 15" radius curves or 15 " diameter?

With 15 inch radius, you shouldn't have any problems with the shorter couplers.

Well I got looking at it on Wensday (1-30-07) and Discovered that the curve was not the issue but rather that there was a kink at the joint between Switch and flextrack. so I replaced that track and now everything runs through. I still have the problem with the intermountain Tunnel motors

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