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Walthers 130' turntable

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Posted by claycts on Sunday, October 15, 2006 8:47 PM

This is a better shot of my water formula:

These are the latest additions; 0-6-0 is a P2K and the BLI Cab Forward.

I tore out 6 turnouts to handle my crazy idea to run Big Steam on all routes. Only Have one loco to complete the collection an Allegheny. Want the brass BUT after the Brass Big Boy that would be pushing my luck. Can not wait for that to come in!!!

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Posted by TheK4Kid on Sunday, October 15, 2006 9:36 PM
Looks nice claycts !
 I agree, screws are better to use.
Found a drywall "dimpler" adapter at Menards today, will do the job using one of my two power drills.
Only cost me 8 dollars.
Thanks for saving me 91 bucks!
I also looked for the "posi-lok" type electrical connectors but they didn't have them. Guess maybe these were the subject of another thread about electrical connectors.
Will save the other 91 dollars plus tax for something else.
My  4th "Dream-Plan-Build" DVD video came last week, got around to watching it finally.
Nice video, quite interesting  O Gauge layout shown in it.

 Oh yeah!!
 I also found a nifty new Weller battery powered portable soldering iron for 15 dollars. Uses 3 AA batteries.
Also got it at Menards.

Okay, time to go back downstairs and get back to working on the Pennsy!

 Ed

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Posted by gear-jammer on Sunday, October 15, 2006 10:58 PM

George,

Great water.  I will not be doing water for awhile.  Nice detail on your loco photo.

We are trying to hold off on spending.  That TT was the price of another loco.

I put two layers of stain on the rocks tonight.  Not even close to the color that I want.  Oh, well.

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, October 15, 2006 11:14 PM

Those pictures are nice.

The Falls Valley Railroad might be acquiring a turn table in 2007 despite my hard fisted stubborn reluctance to blow 4 square feet to a nice 130'er The more I look at my operating plan the more it sinks in that I will need to have one of those big tables. But they are NOT cheap.

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Posted by claycts on Sunday, October 15, 2006 11:23 PM
 Safety Valve wrote:

Those pictures are nice.

The Falls Valley Railroad might be acquiring a turn table in 2007 despite my hard fisted stubborn reluctance to blow 4 square feet to a nice 130'er The more I look at my operating plan the more it sinks in that I will need to have one of those big tables. But they are NOT cheap.

Got that right! I got one for $285.00 and the other for $260.00. The CFO of the rail road helps me find deals!!!

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Posted by claycts on Sunday, October 15, 2006 11:29 PM

Fianly got a picture of our Ashley yard

This is the larger of the the two yards. At least the roundhouses fit this time!!

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Posted by TheK4Kid on Monday, October 16, 2006 12:08 AM
Maybe I shouldn't say this, got my 130 foot TT for $229.
Yes it takes up some  real estate!
I figure my engine service yard area will be first to be built.

But there has been 10,000 other projects that needed done before winter sets in, like painting all the trim on my house, and now a new roof.
All of you guys with your pictures keep inspiring me on!
 Going to go lay down and read Digitrax book "The Big Book of DCC" until  I fall asleep.

TheK4Kid

 Working on the Pennsy


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Posted by Milwhiawatha on Monday, October 16, 2006 1:53 PM
Thats how much I paid for mine two. Got it from a guy on ebay selling real cheap. I got photos on my website of it. I havent gotten photos of the 90' at the cement silos.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, October 16, 2006 2:12 PM

Wow! Great reviews for a Walthers' product? Whoda thunk it. I'm thrilled to hear it though, as I also got mine "cheap" on Ebay and now can't wait to go get it put in...

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Posted by claycts on Monday, October 16, 2006 2:55 PM

 Milwhiawatha wrote:
Thats how much I paid for mine two. Got it from a guy on ebay selling real cheap. I got photos on my website of it. I havent gotten photos of the 90' at the cement silos.

Nice photos and website

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Posted by TheK4Kid on Monday, October 16, 2006 6:17 PM
Got mine from the LHS.
I figured if anything went wrong, I could simply take it back, and my LHS guys  are real nice fellas, and I'd like to see them stay around.
  They run a lot of special sales and has special "in-store" unadvertised specials.

If you're around Ft Wayne Indiana , he runs "Hobby Land".
His name is Jeff and he'll treat you right.
Most of his prices are right in the ball park with internet prices.

If you ever need some custom model painting done, ask for Dave.
Dave does super good work and is very reasonable.
That's another reason I like this LHS.

Personal service means a lot to me.
Internet prices can be better, but on some things, I'd rather pay more and know I can get something fixed or exchanged if something isn't right.

And some things are readily available if you need them.

Back to work on the Pennsy!
 When I get to a point where pictures will look good , I'll post some.

Ed


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Posted by Pruitt on Tuesday, October 17, 2006 6:08 AM
 TheK4Kid wrote:
Maybe I shouldn't say this, got my 130 foot TT for $229.
Yes it takes up some  real estate!
I figure my engine service yard area will be first to be built.

But there has been 10,000 other projects that needed done before winter sets in, like painting all the trim on my house, and now a new roof.
All of you guys with your pictures keep inspiring me on!
 Going to go lay down and read Digitrax book "The Big Book of DCC" until  I fall asleep.

TheK4Kid
I got my 90-footer at Timonium this past weekend for $210 - Twenty bucks cheaper than anyone else selling them there. Big Smile [:D] The 130-footer the guy had was also $210. New, not used. I was building the Walthers 90 foot turntable kit, but decided the spot I was going to put it will be too busy to trust with what many report is a problematic unit, so in will go the new one instead. The kit I'll use at another, lower traffic location instead.
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Posted by claycts on Tuesday, October 17, 2006 6:32 AM

 Brunton wrote:
 TheK4Kid wrote:
Maybe I shouldn't say this, got my 130 foot TT for $229.
Yes it takes up some  real estate!
I figure my engine service yard area will be first to be built.

But there has been 10,000 other projects that needed done before winter sets in, like painting all the trim on my house, and now a new roof.
All of you guys with your pictures keep inspiring me on!
 Going to go lay down and read Digitrax book "The Big Book of DCC" until  I fall asleep.

TheK4Kid
I got my 90-footer at Timonium this past weekend for $210 - Twenty bucks cheaper than anyone else selling them there. Big Smile [:D] The 130-footer the guy had was also $210. New, not used. I was building the Walthers 90 foot turntable kit, but decided the spot I was going to put it will be too busy to trust with what many report is a problematic unit, so in will go the new one instead. The kit I'll use at another, lower traffic location instead.

Smart move, mine was nothing but trouble, it is now at an abandoned terminal (the shelf!)

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Posted by gear-jammer on Tuesday, October 17, 2006 10:18 PM

Our 90' foot TT is on the floor under that layout, where it is far enough out of the way that we will not be tempted to give it a swift kick.  Too many hours were invested on that jerky thing.  The 130' Walthers sure runs nice and quiet.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 1:52 AM
 gear-jammer wrote:

Our 90' foot TT is on the floor under that layout, where it is far enough out of the way that we will not be tempted to give it a swift kick.  Too many hours were invested on that jerky thing.  The 130' Walthers sure runs nice and quiet.

Sue

 

Keep talking some more... half tempted to give up a loco purchase for one of those. What you said about jerky vs nice quiet is quite the testamony.

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Posted by claycts on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 12:42 PM

Add to that: Every thing fits on it perfect, big Boy, Challenger, Cab Forwadr, Y6b. The programming, AFTER YOU READ THE INSTRUCTIONS (do not ask) is very easy. On one I have 14 stops on the other 32 stops and no problems. Power with a $7.95 transformer from the shack and all is well.

I spent $36.00 for a drive, $29.95 for the 90 ft table, $125.00 for sensors and readers for the index and over 50 hours tring to make it work. Then it worked and the drive made it turn so jerky that it almost derailed a pilot truck.

It is worth the money.

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Posted by davekelly on Thursday, October 19, 2006 8:51 PM
 claycts wrote:

AFTER YOU READ THE INSTRUCTIONS (do not ask)

My favorite line from Home Improvement - "Those aren't instructions, they're the manufacturer's recommendations . . ... "

If you ain't having fun, you're not doing it right and if you are having fun, don't let anyone tell you you're doing it wrong.
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Posted by gear-jammer on Thursday, October 19, 2006 9:32 PM

I love it.  You are so right.  What ever happened to customer service?

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Posted by rrebell on Friday, October 20, 2006 10:29 AM
 claycts wrote:
 gear-jammer wrote:

George,

Our house is about 2300 sq. ft.  I can not imagine a layout room that size.  Our 13' x 13' is a good starting point.  The room is actually 13' x 28', but we would have to remove a climbing wall and find a place for our weight room equipment.

We did not get our track to the TT this weekend.  Larry had to take off for California.  We got the frogs powered for three turnouts and another siding in the yard completed.  I think that we are going to make some changes to the original yard.  The larger TT, and the Walthers 3 stall RH, have taken up some space.

I finished placing the geodesic rocks on the section that I have been taking photos of.  Hopefully, I will have photos tomorrow. 

We even found time to ride our dirt bikes, and share the layout with a friend who stopped by.

Sue

This is a whole top floor he had added just for the trains. He has a seperate A/C and power panel. I think 30 breakers just for lights and the layout. His problem is like mine AGE!!! I could gave went to the full 1800 sq ft of the basement but thought that would take longer than I have to get it to at least some scenery. The CFO (Krysti) wanted me to build what ever I wanted so budget just build it. We are adding CCTV for the Dispatcher feeding back 4 cameras to a 28" LCD which looks to be to small. If this works out then I will start on some scenery.

We tried running without the cameras but with the 2 room type of arrangemwnt you can not see most of the layout at any one time.

Well it is annib. on the 15th so will see what she wants to do. Probably drive her Corvette or her Jag I guess.

He should start a club, if this area has an outside entrance then that would be ideal. A lot of people need a place to run trains and if someone else is footing the bill for materials they ussually have no problem with the providers ideas. Since this could be a new club he could write his own bylaws in stone, then open it up to membership.
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Posted by claycts on Friday, October 20, 2006 11:43 PM
 rrebell wrote:
 claycts wrote:
 gear-jammer wrote:

George,

Our house is about 2300 sq. ft.  I can not imagine a layout room that size.  Our 13' x 13' is a good starting point.  The room is actually 13' x 28', but we would have to remove a climbing wall and find a place for our weight room equipment.

We did not get our track to the TT this weekend.  Larry had to take off for California.  We got the frogs powered for three turnouts and another siding in the yard completed.  I think that we are going to make some changes to the original yard.  The larger TT, and the Walthers 3 stall RH, have taken up some space.

I finished placing the geodesic rocks on the section that I have been taking photos of.  Hopefully, I will have photos tomorrow. 

We even found time to ride our dirt bikes, and share the layout with a friend who stopped by.

Sue

This is a whole top floor he had added just for the trains. He has a seperate A/C and power panel. I think 30 breakers just for lights and the layout. His problem is like mine AGE!!! I could gave went to the full 1800 sq ft of the basement but thought that would take longer than I have to get it to at least some scenery. The CFO (Krysti) wanted me to build what ever I wanted so budget just build it. We are adding CCTV for the Dispatcher feeding back 4 cameras to a 28" LCD which looks to be to small. If this works out then I will start on some scenery.

We tried running without the cameras but with the 2 room type of arrangemwnt you can not see most of the layout at any one time.

Well it is annib. on the 15th so will see what she wants to do. Probably drive her Corvette or her Jag I guess.

He should start a club, if this area has an outside entrance then that would be ideal. A lot of people need a place to run trains and if someone else is footing the bill for materials they ussually have no problem with the providers ideas. Since this could be a new club he could write his own bylaws in stone, then open it up to membership.

He IS in the same club as me Georgia Carolina model railroaders. The background is this. He and I have the space, funds and time so we are building two railroads. Mine is the 1950's style bowl of pasta that John Allen and Armstrong made famous. And Don's is a 20th century liniar design that you walk along with. We are building these so the club members have someplace to run. The deal was simple Don and I supplied the money, material and space and the club helps with the labor. I am way ahead of Don since I am taking all of 2006 off to build this to an operating stage less the scenery.

This experience has been more fun and a bigger education than I thought it would be. In 2007 I have some collector cars to finish for the 2008 show season and my wife wants her 1971 "E" type Jag finished so the trains will be on Tuesday and Thiusday nights instead of 8 to 10 hours per day.

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Posted by gear-jammer on Monday, October 23, 2006 9:36 PM

George,

I have a '41 plymouth that I expect my husband to keep running.  We have not had it out much this year.  It is a drive in fair weather vehicle   because the power of a street rod can be dangerous on wet pavement.  The tires churp when back out of the garage.

Too many hobbies.

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Posted by claycts on Monday, October 23, 2006 11:16 PM

Sue, I assume you have seen pictures of some of my toys. Trying to find time for them. Just the was and wax thing is a couple of weekends.

I have not driven the "F" car since July and the Porsche and Vette have been sitting longer tham that. Forget about the others they very seldom see the light of day. Maybe I need to put DCC in them. Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by TheK4Kid on Tuesday, October 24, 2006 12:26 AM

You sound like me!! LOL!
 My airplane is setting in the hangar with the wings off awaiting parts.
I think Santa will deliver more train parts before my AI mechanic finishes my wings.
I'll probably have my new layout up and partially running before the wheels of my airplane leave a runway again!
Also have  68 Mustang setting in storage, along with a 78 Porsche 911 Targa
The Targa isn't quite legally mine yet.
A guy stored it with me and never came back for it. That was 8 years ago, and so under state law here, it is now officially abandoned and I can apply for title.
It's in great shape.
He owes storage he can't pay.
 Sure would buy some neat DCC stuff!
Probably ought to sale both of them.
I bought a new 06 Mustang earlier this year, and also have my daily driver and train and plane parts go-getter and bring-em home mobile, a 92 Ford F150
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Posted by claycts on Tuesday, October 24, 2006 4:21 PM

I think there are more than people think in this position. I am lucky that my dads business is almost on cruise control. He started it back in 1963 and still perking along. He passed on in 1984 and my mom in 1999. Krysti keeps the thing running and i do the R&D on some things. Had a LONG work week last week a whole 6 hours!!

Krysti and I joke about how ruff things are when we have to go shopping!!! LOL. We are supposed to have a training session tonight so people can see how the CTC and CCTV works and try and get a handle on this layout. It is very simple BUT it looks like a wet bowl of pasta when you see the track plan.

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Posted by gear-jammer on Monday, October 30, 2006 8:27 PM

George,

I had a long work week(5 days).  I will be back to my 2 days per week next week.  That means I will have more time for the layout.  I just ordered 3 Peco turnouts and a Walthers 30 degree crossing for the yard.  Maybe we will get to use the turntable this weekend.

I started working on the Walthers roundhouse on Sunday.  I had some trouble with my rock painting and decided to take a break.

I will try to get a picture of the Plymouth when it finds its way out of the garage.  Too much rain in the forecast.

Sue

 

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Posted by claycts on Monday, October 30, 2006 11:25 PM
 gear-jammer wrote:

George,

I had a long work week(5 days).  I will be back to my 2 days per week next week.  That means I will have more time for the layout.  I just ordered 3 Peco turnouts and a Walthers 30 degree crossing for the yard.  Maybe we will get to use the turntable this weekend.

I started working on the Walthers roundhouse on Sunday.  I had some trouble with my rock painting and decided to take a break.

I will try to get a picture of the Plymouth when it finds its way out of the garage.  Too much rain in the forecast.

Sue

 

The modern makes a nice kit. I wish the bricks where better Like the Pola kits. see how easy they weather. Good castings.

Walthers

I have (4) more to build, will try some different weathering since they are supposed to be the newer roundhouse in the towns.

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Posted by gear-jammer on Tuesday, October 31, 2006 8:40 AM
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Fianly got a picture of our Ashley yard

This is the larger of the the two yards. At least the roundhouses fit this time!!

George,

Is there any reason to place an insulator on the edge of the roundhouse? Or is your rail/track in the roundhouse one piece to the TT?  As soon as I paint the floor, I will be to that stage. 

The Walthers RH has a pit that I have decided to leave off.  It would be too messy to cut a hole in the bench work.  Black paint should do the job.  The angle is such that the change will never show.

Is Krysti building the other RHs?

Sue

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Posted by claycts on Tuesday, October 31, 2006 6:18 PM
 gear-jammer wrote:
 claycts wrote:

Fianly got a picture of our Ashley yard

This is the larger of the the two yards. At least the roundhouses fit this time!!

George,

Is there any reason to place an insulator on the edge of the roundhouse? Or is your rail/track in the roundhouse one piece to the TT?  As soon as I paint the floor, I will be to that stage. 

The Walthers RH has a pit that I have decided to leave off.  It would be too messy to cut a hole in the bench work.  Black paint should do the job.  The angle is such that the change will never show.

Is Krysti building the other RHs?

Sue

Sue that is one piece to the TT. I will build the roundhouse at the table after it is painted and weathered. Krysti si walpapering the drawiing room so this one is on me.

The pits on this are painted black. I ahve a real pit in the other one.

I am at the what to do next stage. I should continue on with the soldering and wiring for all the feedback circuits and the local dwarfs and signals. Have been running using the CTC and CCTV like a video game. Works great, was worth the money and effort to do it.

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Posted by Lynn_C on Tuesday, October 31, 2006 6:23 PM

 rrinker wrote:
  Bet you just need to run the calibration routine. If it stops within a step of the actual point, it hans't lost its memory - if it forgot the programmed stop it wouldn;t stop anywhere near where it's supposed to. The whole thing works by 'knowing' how many steps from a fixed starting point you set the stop - so if it's close that just means the calibration has slipped and the start point is no longer where it's supposed to be.


                                                                  --Randy

Hi Randy,

It's nice to hear all the positive comments about this TT.

I have a question about the programmed stops around the circumference. With the controller counting steps to know where each stop is, is it safe to assume that final location of each track is done AFTER the TT is mounted and each stop is programmed? 

Does this present any challenges to get the tracks aligned with round house doors. I guess this would depend on how small the steps are I guess.

Thanks for your help

Lynn

 

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Posted by claycts on Tuesday, October 31, 2006 6:29 PM

Lynn the TT uses an optical reader that starts a "0" as defined by the factory. Before you set anything you put in your track AFTER you find where the dead spot on the table will fall.

I have found that before every session to push the ZERO button on all the TT's so that they are strating from REAL zero. The table is very good about finding it's points after programming. Read the instructions and you will see that you must program both ends of the table at every point. I did not and of course blamed the table not me forgetting to read ALL the instructions.

I am working on the location for the 3rd one IF we build phase two.

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