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Posted by eeyore9900 on Thursday, November 8, 2007 10:06 PM

Evening folks-just dropping in for a Busch Light before bed.

Chuck-the last Blatz I had was over 20 yrs ago-over at a bud of mine's house.(It was his grandma's & had forgotten about it-been in the fridge over 2 yrs at that point) But either way it still had fizz & tasted good-& still had the old pull tabs which had been long gone from around here by that point-took some getting back used to the longer/wider openings. I'd love to scrounge up some BLACK LABEL again if possible-my late grandfather drank it, & gave me some sips as a kid-I found it tasty.

We had power outage here in parts of town this evening-on the plus side it got me & my fiance both out of work at our respective jobs early, but the minus was it affected the house here too. So our only recourse was to cook up some pasta with hot sauce on the gas stove, & eat by candlelight. Fortunately we were only off about 2 hrs, & I then headed to Wally World for a few things. Their power was out the same time as us, but the shoppers hadn't headed back there & the store was basically deserted so I made quick work of things.

Tomorrow's my early day at work, so off to bed for me. Looking forward to a weekend of train car work & some more layout planning. Nite all! 

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Posted by Dave Vollmer on Thursday, November 8, 2007 10:07 PM

Prost!

 

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Posted by tomikawaTT on Friday, November 9, 2007 1:15 AM

Well, Hi, Dave!

Joe, refill that man's stein - and anyone else in need.

Every so often the real world rubs up against our modeling - usually in some unwelcome fashion.  One of my wife's friends, a widow with no family on either side of the Pacific, has run up against some health problems.  With my encouragement, my wife will be spending the next ??? with her - rather more than a day's drive away, so I'll be playing bachelor for a while.  (Salami sandwiches for Thanksgiving, anyone?)

Still, it could be a LOT worse.  It could be one of us with the problem...

Hope I find you all in good health when I get back.  Right now I've got to help her pack.

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Posted by colvinbackshop on Friday, November 9, 2007 3:35 AM

Thanks Chuck, I'll have a real TALL and real COLD Porter, Joe!

Well, I made it through the day and am finely back home.

The meet went good with only one call that ruffled major feathers (false start on a top seed relay)...But that's why they pay me the big bucks (to take the heat!) and I can handle it.

At this hour, I'm buying the next round; a "Meininger Deep Woods Porter" if you don't mind me bragging up a great brew. So, we had better fill Dave's stein first as a newbie to the Barn (can't say I remember you here before, but none the less, welcome) and then anybody else that is still up and would like a cold one. This one's on me!

OTOH, when this one goes dry on me, I've gotta' get to bed before my coach turns back into an onion...........

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Posted by colvinbackshop on Friday, November 9, 2007 3:39 AM

P.S.

Forgot to mention that Carlings "Black Label" is still available here in Northern MN. Not a bad beer for the money......

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Friday, November 9, 2007 6:45 AM

We used to call that stuff "Black Acid" for some reason.  Anyone for a Spam Adams?

Seriously, I'll have some coffee.  I'm a bachelor father this week, too.  My wife's gone down to Florida to visit her parents.  The way school, skiing and other athletics are now, a family loses control of its children once they get to high school.  We're lucky to take summer vacations together, but forget about the rest of them.  Too many assignments and mandatory practices, even games during vacation weeks.  Sad, because these will be the last couple of years before she's off to college.

Round trip from Manchester, New Hampshire to West Palm Beach, $156.  Gotta love Southwest for that.  Of course, if you try to fly a couple of weeks from now it will cost you 2 or 3 times that.

I'm going to take a couple of pictures of the train shop I put on my layout in to my LHS today.  I named my shop after his.  I hope he's grateful enough to buy an ad in my daughter's high school yearbook.  (She's the editor this year.)

Well, gotta go.  It's Friday, but I've still got to get through the workday.

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Posted by gear-jammer on Friday, November 9, 2007 9:57 AM

You guys crack me up.  I batch every week while Larry is gone to California.  Very few people eat complete meals when they eat alone.  I usually heat up leftovers.

Looks like he will be loading for Reno next week.  He will have the week of Thanksgiving off, so we should get some layout time.  I should finish my tree patch this weekend which means more hardshell for the next ridgeline.

There is a big train show in Puyullap on the 17th and 18th.  We will probably look for a track cleaner.  I always take a list of numbers on our rolling stock.  We try to not duplicate numbers. Sometimes there are good buys on used stuff.

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Posted by GUB on Saturday, November 10, 2007 9:21 AM

Good Morning Everyone;

 JB save one or two of those Black Lables. It's a little too early for me. I haven't had my morning coffee yet. It's been a long time since I had a Black Lable. I wasn't aware that you could still get it.

It's been crazy around here for the past couple of months. With deadlines to get things done at work, new contracts, and especially getting the Bedroom done I haven't even had time to check in here at the beer barn. Well, all we have to do is finish painting the fireplace wall, hang the closet doors, and a few other misc things then we can move in, Yeh! I think i can get back to my diorama. At the present, there are doors in my office, workroom making it nearly impossible to do anything in there.

Anyway, I gotta go and look for a new TV for over the FP. Have a great weekend everyone. I'll check back in if i get a chance today.

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Posted by gear-jammer on Saturday, November 10, 2007 5:25 PM

It is a little early for beer, Joe, so I will have an ice tea, please.

Larry and I got some layout time today.  I planted more trees, and put up the cardboard strips for the next section of hardshell with the stream.  Maybe I will get some hardshell done tomorrow.

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Sunday, November 11, 2007 8:56 PM

Milk and brownies for me.  It's Sunday night, just before bedtime, so I've cut myself off.  No holiday for me tomorrow;  it's business as usual.  Traffic should be light, though.

I got a lot done on the stockyard.  Mostly, all that was left is scenery, as the stockyard is pretty much built.  I've been upgrading the old Swift packing plant building.  It still needs new windows.  I've got a bunch leftover from the brewery kit, and I'll be able to bash them into place here.  I'm "glazing" these windows with Canopy Cement, the clear glue used for the "glass" parts of airplane models.  It makes a good window, but very distorted.  That's exactly what I want, because this building has no interior, and with the windows in there now, you can see all the emptiness surrounding the light bulb.

This is the other side from the one I put up on WPF this week.  It shows the unfinished yard in the foreground (like you couldn't tell that from all the pink foam and WS roadbed) but you get to see the hanging carcasses that came with the building.  I repainted them, and they look pretty good in this shot.

I detailed the interior of the Scollay Square subway station, too, but my daughter has run off with the camera, so that photo will have to wait.  She and a couple of friends are sleeping out in a tent tonight, just one of those backyard things to do.  It's going to be in the 20's tonight here, so the hostess's Mom is predicting they'll be back inside by midnight.  I took 1 AM, and my daughter Annie's boyfriend said they'd chicken out by 10.

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Posted by gear-jammer on Sunday, November 11, 2007 9:20 PM

Brownies and milk. MMMMgood.  Make that 2, Joe.

MrB,  Did you put flies on the carcasses since they are outside?Laugh [(-D]  Good idea to repaint.  They are always the wrong color.  Did you put cattle in the stockyard?  What kind did you get?

I did some more hardshell.  I am trying to get my part done so Larry can do his trestle.  He wants to have it finished by the end of Christmas vacation.  He has the whole week of Thanksgiving off, but we might be falling trees for boughs.

I will take 2:00.  They are girls so they will talk that long.  I hope they have fun.

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Monday, November 12, 2007 6:43 AM

Coffee now.  It's morning and time to work.  Maybe an onion bagel with cream cheese.  Thanks.

The plan for the packing plant is hogs.  I've got double-deck stock cars, so they're more appropriate than cattle.  I do have 1 single-level car, too, so maybe I'll swap them out at some time.  I thought of re-badging the Swift plant for McRoberts Haggis and putting in sheep, too.  I guess that will depend on what kind of livestock is available at the train show next week.

Your analysis of the "what time will they come in" was sort of the same as mine.  I didn't think they'd even go outside until midnight, so I gave them an hour to realize that the ground is hard and the air is cold.

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Monday, November 12, 2007 8:55 AM

Sue - can you help us build a better Spacemouse trap?

Chip is working on a switching layout with street running.  He's thinking of brick streets, and we've been chatting a bit about using castings since he needs a lot of this kind of surface.

I just had one of those light-bulb moments.  How about Bragdon foam?  Suppose he made a flat brick-surface mold out of latex, and then filled it with foam instead of the traditional hard casting plaster?  I would think he would have a casting that would be pliable and much easier to work, and that would give him a much better fit to the rails.  What do you think?  You've used this stuff, so I call upon you for expertise.

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Posted by mikesmowers on Monday, November 12, 2007 9:13 AM

   Morning all, Joe, I'll have black coffee and a sweet roll, Thanks.

  Not much MRRing the past week, the weather has been super great and I have been wanting to get outside and do SOMETHING! But my back has really been bothering me the past week so I simple do nothing but get boared and think of what I could be doing.

  I still have my P2K GP38-2 torn down and have one wheel set ready to go back together and will need to clean/lube the other set. Man those stupid cobwebs get everywhere are kind of hard to get out.

 I did have a few hours yesterday that I just had to get out, and started building a paint booth. All I have got done so far is I have got the turntable ready for the booth when I get it built. I have used turntables in the past and they are great for getting paint on both sides without touching the model.

 I will more than likely build a wood box type of thing with the front open with the turntable inside and a light inside the box. I have an old vent hood from a cook stove that I will use to get rid of the fumes and will vent it to the outside under the deck on the East side of the house. I have heard some telling not to use a hood like that for the explosion factor, but I have seen them being used for years and years with no problem.  Have any of you got a paint booth, how is yours made?

 I guess I will go and see what I can find to do, Maybe finish the Geep so I can maybe run it for a while today.   Catch you all later and have a good day.               Mike 

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Posted by colvinbackshop on Tuesday, November 13, 2007 9:46 AM

Good morning:

I'm thinking an Irish Coffee might.....Get the cobwebs out of my head this morning! It was another late night and an early morning!

Wow, it's been a busy one around here with the meets at the pool and the long hours. Sat. I worked from 9 AM to 1 AM and still had work to do! I had run out of gas by about 1230 so finished up the chemistry and went home.........Went back in on Sun. to finish up the rest. Now I just need to recover form five really long strenuous days.

I did play in the Trainroom on Sun. morning for about two hours. I finely "hard" wired the turntable and also did a bit more tweaking on the placement of the bridge and lead track. As Mr. B can attest, bashing the little Atlas can result in some serious tweaking to get it all aligned properly.

Mike, I have a booth that I built. It's a "built in" on an outside wall of my Backshop. I'll check my files and see if I have a picture or two and get them posted here.

In a nutshell, I too was worried about which blower / motor combination to use as to not blow myself up while painting with solvent base paints! I found that all the new motors being made these days (at least on the Dayton blowers) are brushless. In addition I mounted my blower outside of the air-stream just for an extra insurance! I'll get more info together for you later this week.

As for now: We are experiencing temps. In the 40 & 50's (shirt sleeve weather in mid Nov. here is NOT normal) so as long as I have this window of opportunity, I have to get back outside and into the garden. Still pulling some weeds, mulching parts of it and running the plow, making it good and black for the winter!

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Posted by Dave Vollmer on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 8:43 PM

I'll have the 55gal lager...

Brainstorming right now on how to kitbash an N scale Pennsylvania RR M1b 4-8-2 from a Bachmann Spectrum 4-8-2 and some old Minitrix K4 parts.  Seems Precision Crap Models is delaying production of their N scale PRR M1b yet again (3 years later...) because they need 4 times the pre-orders they've gotten...

Hey, I like to pretend I'm a craftsman, so I'll build one myself!

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Posted by riogrande5761 on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 8:53 PM

What is this beer barn thread?

A place to discuss the Eel River/Railshop PC&F 61' beer box cars which carried Coors from Golden Colorado to points west across the Rocky Mountains?

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Posted by tomikawaTT on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 9:50 PM
 riogrande5761 wrote:

What is this beer barn thread?

A place to discuss the Eel River/Railshop PC&F 61' beer box cars which carried Coors from Golden Colorado to points west across the Rocky Mountains?

In unit trains?  I'll raise a glass to that.  Joe, a round for the house.

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Posted by colvinbackshop on Thursday, November 15, 2007 12:36 AM

Hey...I'll have one of those "Stella Artois" that Dave's having too! It should take care of my thirst for tonight at least.

I had a chance to play in the Trainroom for a little while again today and used up a bucket of lightweight dry wall mud filling in hills and ground contour on four dioramas. Maybe at some point this week I'll have / take the time to put down some paint and groundcover.

Here are a couple of the pictures I said I would share here in regard to Mikes spray booth question and my Paintshop.

In always looking for more space for storage, I incorporated two "cupboards", one on each side of the filter ductwork. I store all of my airbrush "stuff" there along with the thinners, cleaners and even have space for the mixed paint.

If you all are interested in more info about spray booths, checkout Mikes thread. There is some good information and ideas being generated. And if you would like to see / read my chapter on the creation of my Paintshop (from "Building the Colvin Creek Railway") just let me know and I will be happy to email it to you.

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Posted by gear-jammer on Thursday, November 15, 2007 1:10 PM
 MisterBeasley wrote:

Sue - can you help us build a better Spacemouse trap?

Chip is working on a switching layout with street running.  He's thinking of brick streets, and we've been chatting a bit about using castings since he needs a lot of this kind of surface.

I just had one of those light-bulb moments.  How about Bragdon foam?  Suppose he made a flat brick-surface mold out of latex, and then filled it with foam instead of the traditional hard casting plaster?  I would think he would have a casting that would be pliable and much easier to work, and that would give him a much better fit to the rails.  What do you think?  You've used this stuff, so I call upon you for expertise.

MrB and Chip,

I agree with you.  The www.bragdonent.com geodesic foam would give you a lot of time to work.  A thinner pour will resoften a lost easier.  Joel probably has a brick mold.  I have not been doing the plaster pours since I started with the foam.  Your foam pour can be 1/8 to 1/4 inch.  That is pretty thin and allows it to be flexible.  If you send an E-mail about your plans,  I am sure that he would give you some input.

Let me know what you do.

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Thursday, November 15, 2007 2:40 PM

Thanks, Sue.  Let me buy you a beer.  'Bout quittin' time, anyway.

I carted that discussion over to the topic-specific thread, Takin' It To The Streets, Part 3 (Brick?)

Y'know, I'm thinking this would really be a breakthrough in street-running scenery.  When I did the cobbles, I had a lot of trouble getting them up to and between the rails, because it's just tough to make Hydrocal that thin with having it get too fragile.  I might just break open my Bragdon bottles and make up a sample with my cobblestone mold, just to see how it works.

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Posted by gear-jammer on Thursday, November 15, 2007 3:08 PM

Glad to help, MrB.  How long have those bottles been sitting on the shelf?Laugh [(-D]

Chip was very helpful with some of my earlier tasks.  Maybe I will slip over and see what is going on at the other thread. 

 There is a street is Centralia that still has the original brick.  I could get a photo of  that if it would be helpful.

I will check in for that beer later.  Thanks.

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Posted by colvinbackshop on Saturday, November 17, 2007 10:00 AM

Good morning....I'll have a coffee and the big breakfast special this morning, please.

Keep the info coming in regard to the Bragdon foam. That sounds like a great way to do streets!

GUB, I've saved a couple of Black labels for you....And you guys got my curiosity going about the stuff.

My first memory of Carlings was at the Tolstoi Hotel in Tolstoi, Manitoba. We would even buy some and bring it back across the border. At that time, I was under the impression that it was made in Canada and we couldn't even get it here in the states.......But I can't say that for sure, as it could have been that Kittson County was "dry'  at that time and Tolstoi was the closest place to get alcohol.

Anyway, Black Label is now produced by Heilman (sp?) in Milwaukee WS. With a note on it's label that it has been internationally brewed since 1840.

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Saturday, November 17, 2007 4:45 PM

Ah, Saturday.  I'll try the Brewski du Jour, Joe.  I think it's still that Stella Artois, right?

I took in the Greenberg show today.  Great turnout.  It's a nice day here in Massachusetts, if a bit breezy and cool, low 40's.  Lots of kids, which is always encouraging for the hobby.  The best part is, a lot of them had Exhibitor badges on, as the Young Model Railroaders were out in force with their ever-growing, and always better, modular layout.  I found the piggys for my stockyard, in little packages of 6 for 3 dollars.  Got myself a dozen porkers of various colors.  They're down on the workbench awaiting their Dul-Cote before getting on the layout.  The glue under Preiser Santa's feet is drying as we speak, but I refuse to post any Christmas-related stuff until December.

Sue, a thousand posts used to rate the fourth star, as I recall.  And I'm embarrased to say that my Bragdon bottles are approaching 3 years old.  I bought them when I was still somewhere between Dream and Plan.  I had no idea how long Build was going to take.

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Posted by mikesmowers on Saturday, November 17, 2007 5:25 PM

   Howdy all, Joe I'll have a cold Bud,  Thanks.

  I would like you all to meet a young model RR'er at it's best 

Her name is Allison and she is the daughter of my Niece. They came to visit the other day and Allison loved the trains! (Who doesn't?) It didn't take her long to get those little hands on a loaded gon and dump it on the floor. She likes to run the trains, it is a good thing the power was turned off as she liked the throttle at around the 90% mark and didn't care which turnout switch she played with. Hopefully she will grow up to be a fine model rr'er. Just thought you might want to see her.

  I went to Hobby Lobby and picked up a better air brush today, It is a Paashe. I am not familur with the brand but it looks like a good one, Double action, Internal mix. I am looking forward to trying it out. I am going to order the paint for the passenger cars that will be on a tourist train in a little while. I also picked up 3 more of the '72 Chevy PU trucks at Wally World, they will all get painted, Get to try out the new toy.

   Joe, set me and Mr. B up with another round and anyone elece that happens to show up.   You all take care, got to go online and spend some more money.       Mike

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Posted by gear-jammer on Sunday, November 18, 2007 9:20 AM

Well, guys,  I am officially a blabbermouth with my 1000 posts.

Mike,  Nice helper.   I like the teething toy.

MrB,  I won't get to the foam trials today.  I have a train show.  If by some chance that Joel has a booth, I will try to ask him what he suggests.  Do you have the cast satin base too?  A better question, did you get the whole kit?  I know that the cast satin will give it more rigidity.

I need to my list for the show.  I will try to check in tonight.

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Sunday, November 18, 2007 9:40 AM

Coffee and a jelly donut this fine Sunday morning, Joe.  Thanks.  Uh, raspberry. 

Not much train work for me today, either.  We've got some theater tickets (a live performance!) for 2 PM, so about all I'll get done is to Dul-Cote the pigs I got at the train show yesterday.  I knew right where I'd find them - the vendors usually end up in the same spots from show to show.  The "pig guy" always has a selection of animals, many from non-standard suppliers you can't find at Walthers.

I was looking for the Parkview Terrace background building, too, but nobody had it.  It's out of stock at Walthers.  One vendor said they had discontinued it, but they were bringing it back.  The Walthers web site says early December, and I'm hoping they might even put it in the sale catalog.  If not, I can wait until they do.  Patience, Grasshopper.

Well, my pigs should be dull by now.  See you all later.  And if we don't meet again for a while, have a great Thanksgiving, OK?

Oops, back again faster than I thought.  I need some advice.  I've put my pigs in the yard, and I realize that my knowledge of our porcine friends is limited to marinades and barbeque sauces.

These look like 3 different types of pigs, as distinguished by the colors.  Would they be mixed in a yard like that, or would they be segregated by species?  And, would the pink ones be pink?  I think they look like they might be razorbacks, from the spinal ridge, but the pink color throws me off.  Does anyone know?

 

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Posted by gear-jammer on Sunday, November 18, 2007 5:12 PM

MrB,

The pink pigs definately need some weathering.

No new purchases at the train show.  We did find latex street section for brick roads made from latex at www.kancali.com.   The company is located in Puyallup.  Shock.  He recommended dry brushing with a sponge brush, brick red, darker red, and a finish layer of pink.  They were $2.50 a sheet. You can't make molds for that.  I will put that on the other thread.

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Posted by mikesmowers on Sunday, November 18, 2007 6:24 PM

  Evening all, Joe, you know what I want?  Thanks

   Mr B.  I have to agree with Sue, Dirty up them pigs, they look like show pigs and there probly would not be any straw in a slaughter house pin, The opperators of that facility don't care about the comfort of the pigs. Even the pigs are going to be happier in a mud hole, that is what pigs do, wollar in a mud hole. As for the mixed breeds in one pin, there are no problems there. I have raised a few pigs in the past, Some for FFA in high school and a few for the bacon, and mixing them up is something I have done many times. The white ones are either a Chester White (Chester) or a Yorkshire (York) probly a York.. 

   I have been trying my air brush today and am getting to where I can actually paint something and it comes out diescent and doesn't all run off, I can see that this is not something that you simply pick up and use, at least not for me.

   Guess I'll go for now, see you all later,                 Mike
 

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Posted by colvinbackshop on Sunday, November 18, 2007 11:39 PM

I'll have a tall cold one Joe and a round for the house too....

I agree with Sue and Mike on dirtying up those pigs Mr. B. And Mike is right about having NO straw, black mud will do just fine. As a kid......In all of my years of sneaking away to watch rail operations at the Hormel plant in Austin MN. I never saw a lick of straw!

Regarding breeds of pigs: I am by far no expert, but have been around a few pigs. There are hundreds; maybe thousands of breeds of pigs around the world, but to the best of my knowledge there are only four breeds that are truly considered "American Breeds". They are:

1)) American Landrace. A long bodied white pig.

2)) American Yorkshire. A relatively Lg. white pig.

3) Poland China. A Lg. pig that is typically black in color, but can also have white patches.

4) Duroc. A Lg. framed, but Med. length red pig.

Some other breeds that I've seen are of British origin. These are:

1) British Saddleback (also known as Essex or Wessex). This is basically a black pig with a white saddle. Sort of a two tone, with a middle strip of white.

2) Berkshire. A black pig with a white blaze on the head, white feet and a white tail.

3) Gloucester Old Spot. A white pig with black spots.

And...With that two (or more) cents worth, I also have to add that I have never seen a pink. pig!

Puffin' & Chuggin', JB Chief Engineer, Colvin Creek Railway

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