Indeed--these folks who claim "center of rail to center of rail" are assuming that all rail is the same width--obviously, not all rail is of equal width, which would mean that differing sizes of rail results in different distances between the inside of the rails--and the inside of the rails are where the flanges of the wheels are! If the flanges of the wheels don't fit between the rails, Bad Things tend to happen.
INSIDE RAIL TO INSIDE RAIL. It's more than just a good idea...it's the law!
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Somebody's off his medication again...
rtpoteet1, what are you, twelve?
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reklein wrote:I think everybody just got their lips ripped on ole R.T.'s plug
Please explain this.
John Baker
I am going ahead and going to add to "How many times can the same bit of information be posted in response to the OP's question?". I suppose that the below drawing should be it, but it won't.
I do wan't to quote the source of the drawing:
The Railroad: What It Is, What It Does by John ArmstrongA book long used as a reference by professional railroaders, which includes the diagram shown by the San Diego Railroad Museum
I do realize this was posted in another response earlier in this thread.
What I meant was that ole R.T. was fishing for controversy by baiting us with the inside to outside gauge thing and everybody bit. Fish are caught by the lips and are often torn by the hooks. A plug is a wooden lure used primarily for bass or on the coaast certain types of salmon will hit such a lure.
P.S. I always thought gauge waas inside to inside and don't quite understand the controversy .For a buch of detail nuts such as modelrailroaders are want to be has someone gone out and actually put a tape on the tracks in various locations? Think I'll do that today.
reklein wrote: What I meant was that ole R.T. was fishing for controversy by baiting us with the inside to outside gauge thing and everybody bit. Fish are caught by the lips and are often torn by the hooks. A plug is a wooden lure used primarily for bass or on the coaast certain types of salmon will hit such a lure. P.S. I always thought gauge waas inside to inside and don't quite understand the controversy .For a buch of detail nuts such as modelrailroaders are want to be has someone gone out and actually put a tape on the tracks in various locations? Think I'll do that today.
So you are saying that rtpoteet is a pain in the patoot?
Just scanned through the link I posted above, and found something very interesting.
Seems that an Italian law passed in 1879 specified that only three track gauges would be legal in that country: 750mm, 1000mm and 1500mm - measured at the center of the rails!
Depend on a bunch of technologically challenged politicians to screw things up!
Chuck (who models 1067mm gauge prototypes on 16.5mm gauge track - measured between the inside faces of the railheads in both cases)
"I supppose it depends on how many times people post complete and utter nonsense - that track gauge is measured from the centre of the rail head. Or that other bonehead favourite, the standard gauge/Roman Chariot myth. (I can never understand why people repeatedly post on subjects they clearly know absolutely nothing about.) Cheers, Mark. "
That's a pretty nasty post. For someone like me who didn't know where the measurement was taken from, I assumed it was from the rail center. Instead of being ugly about it, you could have presented your point in a positive way. Not everyone knows all that stuff.
GearDrivenSteam wrote: ...For someone like me who didn't know where the measurement was taken from, I assumed it was from the rail center...
...For someone like me who didn't know where the measurement was taken from, I assumed it was from the rail center...
GearDrivenSteam,You have to consider where Mark is coming from. Both he and I have been on the 'net for years talking model trains, starting with newsgroups. And the "standard gauge/Roman Chariot" myth has come up so many times that it's practically a running gag over on rec.models.railroad. It gets to the point that we think everyone has heard it & knows how guage is measured, and that after the first rebuttle is given and *still* folks are arguing, it gets frustrating.
Mark's post really isn't that nasty. "Complete and utter nonsense" isn't that bad a description of what's been going on here by a certain poster (not you). That person is trolling for replies, and is therefore a Troll. As the saying goes, "Please don't feed the Trolls." They crave attention like a 4-year-old craves a lollypop.
Mark is just less tolerant of "cow manure" than others, and tends to call people on it. I'm glad he does because if he didn't, people would be getting bad info constantly.
James, Brisbane Australia
Modelling AT&SF in the 90s
james saunders wrote: I thought it was 3' 6" from inside to inside...or is that just here?
There, here (I model a 1067mm gauge prototype) and a lot of other places, notably in Japan and Africa - which is why it's widely referred to as "Cape gauge."
Of course your neighbors to the Southeast (aka NZ) use it, too.
Quick test to see if the Brits got there before the French - is the track gauge 1m or 1067mm? No mater which, it's still measured from the inside faces of the railheads.
Chuck