Karl, the more i think about it the more potential I can see, I have always thought of Wal Mart and the $ store as my friends but for some reason I didn't think of Michaels, mainly because I usually go there with a single minded pupose(oils and canvas) but now that has changed.
Thank you one and all for helping me reorder my thoughts on this subject, I'm going to be having some fun with all these ideas.
but for some reason I didn't think of Michaels, mainly because I usually go there with a single minded pupose
I know what you mean................. one TRACK mind
Have fun & be safeKarl
I had a good day working on my layout finished with the plastering yesterday and got my mountain tunnel painted last step is to add "water" to the river and waterfall, will do that tomorow, Tom will be taking off with the boys for a few hours so I should be able to finish up that phase. Next step is to carve out the lake on the table and fit the two together. I'm still trying to photograph the lay out but as soon as I down load them on to my computer I realize they wouldn't work, so I'll keep trying .
Good night
Well it sounds like you are definately on the right tra....... no nevermind,,,, but you seem to be makining great progress... what is the prob with the camera? if the pics are on the computer then the battle is half won.... either way good to hear you are making good progress.
John, don't worry about my giving up, I won't. Inthe mean time I'm enjoying my trains and talking with everone here, Male or female makes no difference to me, never really did.
Lisa
You are definitely not the only woman. I do find that some people don't get it but generally that the model railroading fraternity is very welcoming.
My group of the NMRA in West Midlands, UK has been great at making me feel welcome and I have regular meets at my house. It is all about the people though and I never felt that welcome with the UK modelling clubs.
This week, the lady who was instrumental in my giving up modelling the UK to model the US is coming to stay. 3 days of female modelling!!
Food for thought: One of my male modelling friends tells me that women do better layouts as they look at it as a whole and are less "rivet-counting". From the horse's mouth...
Kathy
Lisa, I have been rock climbing with a friend and finially was able to check in. I also am working on a tunnel portal. As soon as I finish the ballast, I will attach the portal. We have switched to geodesic foam by Bragdon Enterprises, with which you form the tunnel from a rock mold prior to its complete setup. It seems to be a lot less work and is not as messy. I have found that the paints that I used on plaster castings does not work as well. You definately need acrylic paint.
John, Are you modeling western Washington on your layout?
Kathy, Great to hear from another female modeler.
Sue
Anything is possible if you do not know what you are talking about.
Kathy, very good to hear from you , some times it's good to hear that there are other woman so I don't have to feel strange being a woman in a male dominated hobby, I know gender has very little to do with what we like but some times it feels like it must have when, women started compeating in "men's" sports, jobs, schools ect. so to any men reading this I am not talking about you, you haven't tried to black ball any one.
Sue glad you stop in, My moutain is complete, I even got some landscaping done on it, I took some potos but I'm not sure how they will come out, that foam you wer talking about sounds interesting, Though I had a great time carving my out, guess whatever you like it the best for you. That's one of the great things about modeling we all share this hobby but we each can still be our selves at the same time.
Talk Later
Lisa, My first layout had foam and plaster cloth mountains. I am hoping that having foam where the plaster cloth was will help with tree attachment. I will let you know later. The web site is www.bragdonent.com. When you do the hardshell, there is a stage where you can punch it into the shape that you want. It has a lot of working time. You just hot glue, staple, or use liquid nails to attach it.
The section that I am working on now has to be completed prior to connecting the upper to the lower track. There is a 6% grade on the logging spur. I am presently standing, leaning, or crawling where a section of track will be. At least our main line is functional.
It is great to share. It is amazing when the landscape starts going down. Color really helps. Did you paint trees and other ridge lines on your backdrop?
Lisa, It is always fun to model an area that you are familiar with. We did a lot of studying on early 1900's logging in Western Washington. We have one book that is autographed by the author and one of the loggers in the book. We visited for 5 hours with the old guy. He was really excited about our venture. Our landing will be similar to one in the book. I am trying to duplicate the type of rock formations that we have on the Olympic Penisula. Because of the types of trees that we have here, we think that we will be doing spring. The new growth on the trees should be interesting to duplicate.
Have fun with your space in the White Mountains.
I guess that I should go to work.
If you took over the back yard!!
You might be able to use the white mountains as your back drop?
smcgill wrote: If you took over the back yard!! You might be able to use the white mountains as your back drop?
Well I'm not close enough to see the white mountain(mores the pitty) but I could try for a full scale model of it(HA HA). Think of the fun I could have with the entire back yard, but we know HO doesn't like snow or rain and I can't convince my husband to close it in for me(BOO HOO< big tears falling)
Sue, I'm using some modelers license with my next stage which is an area of factories, there is this area in Exeter, NH that if you look down the tracks it looks like a long alley with factories and trees along both sides can't wait to get started.
Lisa, It is sure easy to visualize that scene. If you are doing fall, the color contrast will be great. I can not wait to start a section of town. Right now too many other things are in the way. My main work bench is on the layout. I will wait as long as possible to cover that.
Lisa do you remenber the old joke about a guy looking for a wife and must have a boat, then wants a picture of the BOAT not her. You could reverse that and ask for a guy with right-of-way for trains and ask for a picture of the space
I am lucky my wife loves this hobby and allows me to spend as much tine and money as I wish. She will help with the scenery and buildings.
How are you ladies doing with the wiring side of this hobby? This is usualy where people get stumped since it must be correct or POOF! I till me people when I do a seminar (when I feel like working) "there is no such thing as a dumb question it is only dumb not to ask it."
Well I used to be a woman but since the change a couple of years ago I am not anymore so you are yet still alone, sorry. JUST KIDDING!!
You should not feel alone because there must be more woman just not on this particular forum. How about all the black modelers out there? They could feel very alone because that is a minority in a minority hobby.
Zay, very cute joke but seriously I wonder if Modeling was stereotypicaly considered a "white man's hobby"Like so many other things used to be. I'm glad your here and who knows maby so black modelers will reveal them selves just like some of the woman decieded to let me know they were out there.
George, I like the one that says" Missing wife and boat reward for boat" I could use that one and change it to husband and trains.
Krysti, the wife, got her TOY a 2003 50th Anniversery Corvette. Last year she bought a 1971 Jagura "E" type and also a 300D Mercedes Benz, 1971. So my trains are no biggy in this house. We both enjoy the car hobby and the trains so no need for an add in this house.
More women are showing up in the collector car hobby which was a mans domain for years. Still do not care for a Pink Jeep but to each his/her own.
A point of fact is that in juding the cars you can tell when the wife/girlfriend details the cars it is always better than the guys do. reason is that they look for the small stuff and make it correct.
Lisa,
Count me as yet another woman that is into trains. I have been lurking on this forum for awhile, picking up ideas and suggestions. I am currently working on an N scale layout (my second one). When I'm done I'm switching to HO because my eye/hand coordination isn't as good anymore (I'm 54). I also have O scale and Z scale trains. My husband is very supportive and its a good thing otherwise I would have a hard time continuing with my hobby. He does my wiring for me and also built my tables. I'm glad you posted - nice to know there are other women reading the forums.
Christine (Everett, Washington)
Christine, Welcome. What area are you modeling? Anything local? My husband & I are modeling Northern Pacific with Weyerhauser. We hope to add some S, P & S.
Lisa, I did some more ballasting last night. Hopefully, I will get my tunnel portal and my cardboard lattice done this weekend. I need to get some photos prior to sealing things up.
gear-jammer wrote: Christine, Welcome. What area are you modeling? Anything local? My husband & I are modeling Northern Pacific with Weyerhauser. We hope to add some S, P & S. Lisa, I did some more ballasting last night. Hopefully, I will get my tunnel portal and my cardboard lattice done this weekend. I need to get some photos prior to sealing things up. Sue
Miss Sue, what kind of glue are you using over what type of roadbed? This is the stage where the NOISE comes in.
I am playing with about 4 different mixes looking for quit as possible.
Miss Christine (same age as my wife Krystine)
George, On the section of mainline that I ballasted, it was on cork and I used 1 part elmer's carpenters wood glue: 1 part water. On the stretch to the log landing, I have plaster cloth on woodland scenics foam inclines / risers. I used elmer's all purpose 1:1 water. It was a little shiney so I put some of the wood glue next to it to compare color etc. (Most of that will be covered, but a good place to experiment.) On our previous layout, I liked the color of the wood glue when I glued wood chips on the track.
The cork is probably much quieter, but we do not have enough of the spur line finished to tell for sure. I need to complete my tunnel and landscape before placing a rickety bridge. You know, it's a puzzle.
Sounds , no pun intended, good.
I make my own mixture using a product called MBL Master Batch Liquid. It is a spin off of the base I use for our leather dye product line. It is latex base and never hardens. I use a dulling agent to flatten out the look. So far it works on cork and WS foam with no puckering on the WS.
We are doing the yard to test this putting down fine cinders around the TT and Roundhouse's With 750ft or track and up to 10 operators it was a big deal for the sound level.
This is a 3rd planet view of our phase one: red marks are operators.
this is the real yard
this is the other yard to do:
lots to do!!
P.S. Lisa, this is how you blow $30K in 8 months
George, We used 3rd planIt also. We have been impressed that everything has been right on.
My husband, Larry, is a truck driver. He has observed that often the sidings and yards are lower than the mainline, so we only put cork under the mainline. We really have not noticed much difference in noise. However, when we get our Shays operational that may be different.
The close-up of your yard is great. How are your knees from working on the details?
gear-jammer wrote: George, We used 3rd planIt also. We have been impressed that everything has been right on. My husband, Larry, is a truck driver. He has observed that often the sidings and yards are lower than the mainline, so we only put cork under the mainline. We really have not noticed much difference in noise. However, when we get our Shays operational that may be different. The close-up of your yard is great. How are your knees from working on the details? Sue
Excellent, I was standing on a chair to take the pictures. The layout is 53" average height
I cheat, I put the 1st yard on flat cork and WS sheets, the nd yard is up on road bed sinec we had so much in stock at that point. Now I will build up the "GROUND" to the proper height with plaster and mold in the ditches, culverts, pits and whatever else floats my boat. THe club memebrs helping me think the 2nd yard with the roadbed will looke better since you can hide so much under plaster.