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Oscar and Piker. Real, or a figment of Walther's imagination?

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Posted by CNJ831 on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 9:44 PM
 boxcar_jim wrote:

... one of the smaller western railroads I think it may have been the Sierra had some really very short passenger cars (25 footers I think). They rode on two four wheel trucks though ... MRR published a photo of them not that long ago.

 

Correct. Those were the basis for the MDC shorty "Overton" cars, which laBelle did better as a wood kit. MR also published plans/construction drawings for at least the coach, way back when in the 1950's.

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Posted by fwright on Thursday, July 27, 2006 10:55 AM
 CNJ831 wrote:
 boxcar_jim wrote:

... one of the smaller western railroads I think it may have been the Sierra had some really very short passenger cars (25 footers I think). They rode on two four wheel trucks though ... MRR published a photo of them not that long ago.

Correct. Those were the basis for the MDC shorty "Overton" cars, which laBelle did better as a wood kit. MR also published plans/construction drawings for at least the coach, way back when in the 1950's.

CNJ831

I didn't know about the LaBelle wood version (always good to learn something new), but Ulrich made a metal version of the Sierra Ry Overton cars.  The cars (both combines and coaches were built, but no observation or business as MDC made) were about 34ft long, and built to fit a specific switchback branch with a short tail track on the Sierra Ry.  I believe the Sierra used a Shay to pull the passenger train up and down the branch - a slow trip by any standard.

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Posted by TED FINKBOHNER on Monday, August 22, 2016 2:33 PM

They were designed to be pulled by a Penn Central Husdon or K-4 pacific.  They had the decals for the engines avalible, don't forget to add your Jailbox car.

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Posted by chutton01 on Friday, August 26, 2016 1:22 PM

Not sure why Ted Finkbohner bounced this thread, but for the heck of it I looked and Walthers has a catalog page for the 'Oscar', so people who didn't see this thread a decade ago can now check out the official image and ad copy for the model.
BTW, sorry folks: "Availability: Discontinued"

And Ted is incorrect, these passenger cars should be pulled by units like this TP model 56

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Posted by ACY Tom on Friday, August 26, 2016 1:34 PM

This is a really old thread and I'm not sure why it was resurrected. I suppose there are folks who are amused by such improbabilities, but I've never thought the Oscar or Piker were amusing, much less worthy of consideration for purchase. I guess that's just a matter of taste. 

There was mention of a Sierra combine by Ulrich. I think the reference should actually be to Selley. They may have had a matching coach, but I'm not sure. Ads from the 1950's showed a car that was very appealing, although I always thought the white metal construction probably meant a very heavy car. I never actually saw one of these models. Since Bowser is the successor to Selley, I wonder whether they have any of the old tooling and could produce the kits in something lke resin. If so, there may be a good market. 

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Posted by 7j43k on Friday, August 26, 2016 7:12 PM

ACY

There was mention of a Sierra combine by Ulrich. I think the reference should actually be to Selley. They may have had a matching coach, but I'm not sure.

 

 

 

from 1974 catalog:

 

http://hoseeker.net/selley/selleycatalog1974pg05.jpg

 

 

 

Ed

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