Ok this is the last time were gonna say it!

[3railguy]

How about "On762mm"

[3railguy]

How about "On762mm"

[M636C]

In Australia, we still have quite a lot of 5'3" gauge track, which is usually modelled using standard gauge track, although some diehards use other combinations of scale and gauge.

It occurred to me some years ago, that if we were stuck with 16.5 mm gauge, we could use the Briti***T-3 (3mm to the foot) scale on 16.5 mm gauge, which actually worked out as 5'6", and for South Australian models with both 5'3" gauge and 3'6" gauge, dual gauge HO/HOn3 track could roughly represent 5'3"/3'6" gauge.

What would this be called. The narrow gauge would be "TT-3n3.5" and "TT-3b5.25" for the broad gauge!

Fortunately, standard gauge is taking over, so the problem has gone away, as did the supply of TT-3 equipment.

Australia did have quite a bit of 2'6" gauge in Victoria, with Baldwin 2-6-2 tank locomotives as the main motive power. On 2.5 was popular here before Bachmann started selling it.

Peter

[M636C]

In Australia, we still have quite a lot of 5'3" gauge track, which is usually modelled using standard gauge track, although some diehards use other combinations of scale and gauge.

It occurred to me some years ago, that if we were stuck with 16.5 mm gauge, we could use the Briti***T-3 (3mm to the foot) scale on 16.5 mm gauge, which actually worked out as 5'6", and for South Australian models with both 5'3" gauge and 3'6" gauge, dual gauge HO/HOn3 track could roughly represent 5'3"/3'6" gauge.

What would this be called. The narrow gauge would be "TT-3n3.5" and "TT-3b5.25" for the broad gauge!

Fortunately, standard gauge is taking over, so the problem has gone away, as did the supply of TT-3 equipment.

Australia did have quite a bit of 2'6" gauge in Victoria, with Baldwin 2-6-2 tank locomotives as the main motive power. On 2.5 was popular here before Bachmann started selling it.

Peter

[bogeys]

Re: George Gobel quote- It was indeed delivered on the Tonight Show. Also present were Dean Martin and the Tea Time lady. I think it was Carson's best show ever. Dean kept flicking his cigarette ashes into Gobel's beer cup. This caused the audience to break into laughter every time Gobel took a sip. Hence the quote.

[bogeys]

Re: George Gobel quote- It was indeed delivered on the Tonight Show. Also present were Dean Martin and the Tea Time lady. I think it was Carson's best show ever. Dean kept flicking his cigarette ashes into Gobel's beer cup. This caused the audience to break into laughter every time Gobel took a sip. Hence the quote.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by DSchmitt

QUOTE: Originally posted by bangert1
[I have a question about the track. If you use HO track, what do you do about the ties? Do they make what you call On30" track? I have seen the locomotives and they look good, but what track are you using for your layout?

My point is the importer companies make this scale up so they could sell products to a larger market and now they have to furnish scale track much like the On3 that was always available, but probably at a higher price. They could have just produced the engines in On3 and probably sold more engines as they have a smaller market to work with if it is divided.

Jus some questions about the new market and how you are using them on layouts.

DSchmitt Reply

A poster to this thread
http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?page=-1&TOPIC_ID=22372&REPLY_ID=212879#212879
sates that Atlas code 100 is closer to somw pre WW1 narrow gauge track than the track made specifficly for On30.

Thank you for the answer about the track and the web pages you listed are interesting to say the least. I may build a switching shell layout for my office with one of the BLI engines. The ties could be laid separately after removing most of the HO scale ties, leaving only one tie every few inches to hold the gauge while the new ties are attached. Would code 83 or code 70 rail be more correct for this size or is it too small??

Thank you

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by DSchmitt

QUOTE: Originally posted by bangert1
[I have a question about the track. If you use HO track, what do you do about the ties? Do they make what you call On30" track? I have seen the locomotives and they look good, but what track are you using for your layout?

My point is the importer companies make this scale up so they could sell products to a larger market and now they have to furnish scale track much like the On3 that was always available, but probably at a higher price. They could have just produced the engines in On3 and probably sold more engines as they have a smaller market to work with if it is divided.

Jus some questions about the new market and how you are using them on layouts.

DSchmitt Reply

A poster to this thread
http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?page=-1&TOPIC_ID=22372&REPLY_ID=212879#212879
sates that Atlas code 100 is closer to somw pre WW1 narrow gauge track than the track made specifficly for On30.

Thank you for the answer about the track and the web pages you listed are interesting to say the least. I may build a switching shell layout for my office with one of the BLI engines. The ties could be laid separately after removing most of the HO scale ties, leaving only one tie every few inches to hold the gauge while the new ties are attached. Would code 83 or code 70 rail be more correct for this size or is it too small??

Thank you

[DSchmitt]

QUOTE: Originally posted by bangert1
[I have a question about the track. If you use HO track, what do you do about the ties? Do they make what you call On30" track? I have seen the locomotives and they look good, but what track are you using for your layout?

My point is the importer companies make this scale up so they could sell products to a larger market and now they have to furnish scale track much like the On3 that was always available, but probably at a higher price. They could have just produced the engines in On3 and probably sold more engines as they have a smaller market to work with if it is divided.

Jus some questions about the new market and how you are using them on layouts.

A poster to this thread
http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?page=-1&TOPIC_ID=22372&REPLY_ID=212879#212879
sates that Atlas code 100 is closer to somw pre WW1 narrow gauge track than the track made specifficly for On30.

[DSchmitt]

QUOTE: Originally posted by bangert1
[I have a question about the track. If you use HO track, what do you do about the ties? Do they make what you call On30" track? I have seen the locomotives and they look good, but what track are you using for your layout?

My point is the importer companies make this scale up so they could sell products to a larger market and now they have to furnish scale track much like the On3 that was always available, but probably at a higher price. They could have just produced the engines in On3 and probably sold more engines as they have a smaller market to work with if it is divided.

Jus some questions about the new market and how you are using them on layouts.

A poster to this thread
http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?page=-1&TOPIC_ID=22372&REPLY_ID=212879#212879
sates that Atlas code 100 is closer to somw pre WW1 narrow gauge track than the track made specifficly for On30.

[Fergmiester]

Oh!
I thought it was another fringe political party. Oh well goes top show you that there is room for all of us despite what scale we choose. Personally I think ON3O would make the perfect garden layout scale.

Regards
Fergie

[Fergmiester]

Oh!
I thought it was another fringe political party. Oh well goes top show you that there is room for all of us despite what scale we choose. Personally I think ON3O would make the perfect garden layout scale.

Regards
Fergie

[Paul W. Beverung]

Juctionfan; That would be a large train with a great sence of balance.

Paul

[Paul W. Beverung]

Juctionfan; That would be a large train with a great sence of balance.

Paul

[Junctionfan]

What is GnHOz?

[Junctionfan]

What is GnHOz?

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by CNJ831

Swampthing - If the far longer established O modeling scale representing a railroad with a 36" gauge is universally recognized as On3 (the "3" being a measurement taken in feet), then it is absolutely logical to call a scale representing a 30" gauge as On2 1/2. Based on the established scale of On3 and taken literally, On30 suggests a gauge of 30 feet. Mixing the representation of terms (feet and inches) only serves to confuse, not clarify, the situation.

CNJ831

This is an interesting Subject. The Standards were established many years ago and named so we would all benefit from having good operation. The names of the scales came along, but I am not sure exactly how they were named. I know the information that CNJ831 stated is true and the general rule naming narrow gauge was in feet, like On3 means O scale, Narrow gauge, three feet. I believe this is true, correct me if I am wrong.

MR is just staying with the standards that were established and I respect them for that stand on this subject.

In the real world view, you can call any scale anything you want as the importers have started this new scale and will probably continue to make trains and cars to enhance the hobby. I thought it was interesting when I first say the products, but was curious about the looks of this scale running on HO track.

I have a question about the track. If you use HO track, what do you do about the ties? Do they make what you call On30" track? I have seen the locomotives and they look good, but what track are you using for your layout?

My point is the importer companies make this scale up so they could sell products to a larger market and now they have to furnish scale track much like the On3 that was always available, but probably at a higher price. They could have just produced the engines in On3 and probably sold more engines as they have a smaller market to work with if it is divided.

Jus some questions about the new market and how you are using them on layouts.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by CNJ831

Swampthing - If the far longer established O modeling scale representing a railroad with a 36" gauge is universally recognized as On3 (the "3" being a measurement taken in feet), then it is absolutely logical to call a scale representing a 30" gauge as On2 1/2. Based on the established scale of On3 and taken literally, On30 suggests a gauge of 30 feet. Mixing the representation of terms (feet and inches) only serves to confuse, not clarify, the situation.

CNJ831

This is an interesting Subject. The Standards were established many years ago and named so we would all benefit from having good operation. The names of the scales came along, but I am not sure exactly how they were named. I know the information that CNJ831 stated is true and the general rule naming narrow gauge was in feet, like On3 means O scale, Narrow gauge, three feet. I believe this is true, correct me if I am wrong.

MR is just staying with the standards that were established and I respect them for that stand on this subject.

In the real world view, you can call any scale anything you want as the importers have started this new scale and will probably continue to make trains and cars to enhance the hobby. I thought it was interesting when I first say the products, but was curious about the looks of this scale running on HO track.

I have a question about the track. If you use HO track, what do you do about the ties? Do they make what you call On30" track? I have seen the locomotives and they look good, but what track are you using for your layout?

My point is the importer companies make this scale up so they could sell products to a larger market and now they have to furnish scale track much like the On3 that was always available, but probably at a higher price. They could have just produced the engines in On3 and probably sold more engines as they have a smaller market to work with if it is divided.

Jus some questions about the new market and how you are using them on layouts.

[Anonymous]

Swampthing, You can call it On30, I'm going to call it OughtN2.5.

[Anonymous]

Swampthing, You can call it On30, I'm going to call it OughtN2.5.

[Catt]

The scale is called 0n30 gentle folk.Get over it. :) Only Model Railroader and a few diehards will call it 0n2 1/2.

[Catt]

The scale is called 0n30 gentle folk.Get over it. :) Only Model Railroader and a few diehards will call it 0n2 1/2.

[fec153]

Gobel said that on the Tonight show and Carson cracked up. I think Bob Hope and another comic was on the same show and that is why he made that comment.
Phil

[fec153]

Gobel said that on the Tonight show and Carson cracked up. I think Bob Hope and another comic was on the same show and that is why he made that comment.
Phil

[CNJ831]

Swampthing - If the far longer established O modeling scale representing a railroad with a 36" gauge is universally recognized as On3 (the "3" being a measurement taken in feet), then it is absolutely logical to call a scale representing a 30" gauge as On2 1/2. Based on the established scale of On3 and taken literally, On30 suggests a gauge of 30 feet. Mixing the representation of terms (feet and inches) only serves to confuse, not clarify, the situation.

CNJ831

[CNJ831]

Swampthing - If the far longer established O modeling scale representing a railroad with a 36" gauge is universally recognized as On3 (the "3" being a measurement taken in feet), then it is absolutely logical to call a scale representing a 30" gauge as On2 1/2. Based on the established scale of On3 and taken literally, On30 suggests a gauge of 30 feet. Mixing the representation of terms (feet and inches) only serves to confuse, not clarify, the situation.

CNJ831

[on30francisco]

Right on! It's called On30!

[on30francisco]

Right on! It's called On30!

[BR60103]

I call it OnHO, to go with HOnN. [:D]