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The Weathering Thread-For Newbies and Seasoned Weathering Gurus Alike

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, March 6, 2006 10:41 PM
I'm designing a mountain logging RR in HO scale and i'd like to find some weathered track/ties. Is there such a product, or do I need to make it from scratch?? The rails of course must be good, but i want some really ratty ties, broken, missing, etc, TIA for the help.

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Posted by mecovey on Tuesday, March 7, 2006 9:10 AM
Great thread - keep it coming
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 7, 2006 2:26 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Gourdfather

I'm designing a mountain logging RR in HO scale and i'd like to find some weathered track/ties. Is there such a product, or do I need to make it from scratch?? The rails of course must be good, but i want some really ratty ties, broken, missing, etc, TIA for the help.

John


I know of no such product. Broken ties would be easy to make. As for weathering, I'd suggest starting out with brown-tied track and paint the sides of the rail "Rail Brown".

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Posted by james saunders on Tuesday, March 7, 2006 3:37 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by uspscsx

James: Your photos are blurred, but from what I can tell, that's a pretty good job. [tup]


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yeah i know i just used a cheap camera, i have taken some more with my SLR which i will post later on.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 3:05 AM
OK....newbie questions:

What color is Dullcote?
Is it clear or white or black?
Can it be sprayed on ANY color rolling stock?
Should you spray with Dullcote first then apply the weathering powder?
If not using Dullcote after powder, what do you spray the car with to get the powder to "stick"?

Most important question:
Where can I buy AIM powder?
I need a website to buy it from so I can get started.

Last:
Where can I buy some CHEAP rolling stock? Somehting to practice on. Say less than $10.

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Posted by wt259 on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 6:12 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by lava96

OK....newbie questions:

What color is Dullcote?
Is it clear or white or black?
Can it be sprayed on ANY color rolling stock?
Should you spray with Dullcote first then apply the weathering powder?
If not using Dullcote after powder, what do you spray the car with to get the powder to "stick"?

Most important question:
Where can I buy AIM powder?

I need a website to buy it from so I can get started.

Last:
Where can I buy some CHEAP rolling stock? Somehting to practice on. Say less than $10.

Thanks

Lava, Dullcoat should be clear. Spraying it on first is a good idea. Once you get a car weathered, spray a light coat over it. A lot of the weathering will probably disappear if you spray the Dullcoat too heavy.
Google AIM powders, also try the Model Trains Weathered website. Pick up a couple of Athearn blue box kits and weather away.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, March 9, 2006 10:53 AM
Any suggestions on online sources to but the "Blue box" rolling stock?
I don't have a convenient hobby store near me so I buy almost everything online.
I just haven't been able to find the Athearn kits online or the AIM powder.
Does anyone have a link?
What si the site you mentioned? Link
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, March 10, 2006 2:43 AM
Newbies... BE WARNED! If you spray dullcoat over chalk or other powdered weethering it will probably blast the powder(s) straight back off the car you spent hours getting just right... in my experience...anyone know how to not achieve this?
I was also wondering whether those "seasoned gurus" should be "well weathered gurus"?
Broken ties... one or two: use balsa cut to size, break and then stain/paint.... lots and other ties (stored and car loads) buy real wood ties and work on them. track weathering...have a look at my previous posts... short version is that track weathering is as complex as car weathering... you won't make it look right if you just spray it all one colour. Simple example... if a tie is just broken the broken wood will be a "fresh" lighter colour (but not white wood unless the tie is untreated - as it might be on a logging road - most ties are high pressure impregnated). If a tie has been broken some time the shattered ends will be closer to the rest of the exterior tie colour. Just a thought... what's going to have broken your tie(s)? they are hefty lumps of wood. They only usually break about the middle with a lot of force... like a BIG digger on a building site crushing through the middle. Sometimes they are cut through the (approximate) middle when track is being taken out. Otherwise they only usually bust when they are rotten... in which case they will be black(ish) right through and tatty. Where are these rotten sleepers relative to the track? Have they been replaced with new unweathered ones? Has the wet ballast (if a log road has ballast) been changed and/or drainage improved?
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Posted by AggroJones on Sunday, March 19, 2006 8:38 PM
For those who don't know the difference between Testor's Dullcote and Testor's Lusterless, the latter doesn't leave the surface as rough. Dullcote has more micro-ed texture to it's surface, which is better for holding powders.

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Posted by AggroJones on Tuesday, April 4, 2006 8:28 PM
Playing music in the back ground helps you work. Its gets you in a groove.

I blasted SOAD songs during the biggest part of making my last rust bucket.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, April 5, 2006 4:09 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by AggroJones

Playing music in the back ground helps you work. Its gets you in a groove.

I blasted SOAD songs during the biggest part of making my last rust bucket.

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Which CD were you playing? I'll have to try that.


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Posted by AggroJones on Wednesday, April 5, 2006 9:28 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by uspscsx

QUOTE: Originally posted by AggroJones

Playing music in the back ground helps you work. Its gets you in a groove.

I blasted SOAD songs during the biggest part of making my last rust bucket.

[2c]

Which CD were you playing? I'll have to try that.

Some stuff from Mezmerize and Hypnotize:

Stealing Society, She's Like Heroin, Dreaming, Cigaro, This Cocaine Makes Me Feel Like I’m On This Song, Old School Hollywood, B.Y.O.B.

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Posted by beegle55 on Thursday, April 6, 2006 7:36 AM
I'm going to reply to this post to get it back into the first page b/c I am looking for good advice on weathering and I might get it right here, hopefully!
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, April 23, 2006 9:28 PM
Somebody was looking for the web site for AIM Products for weathering powders.
Look at
www.aimprodx.com

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, April 24, 2006 4:00 PM
lets keep this thread
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, April 24, 2006 9:30 PM
Does anyone know of any videos that shows weathering or anyone have any tips on doing passenger cars thanks
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Posted by pcarrell on Wednesday, April 26, 2006 8:49 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by DanSnyder

Does anyone know of any videos that shows weathering or anyone have any tips on doing passenger cars thanks


This is a great website done by our very own Joe Fugate;

http://siskiyou.railfan.net/
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, April 29, 2006 10:56 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by JAILBREAKER74

lets keep this thread

Yes, let's.

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, April 29, 2006 5:38 PM
Hello All,

For those that may be interested, Tamiya, the company best known for it's sensational plastic model aircraft and armor, has just released a line of weathering powders. They appear to be aimed at armor modelers, but railroads seem to weather in a similar fashion. Right now, there are only 9 colors available, but they're good ones. The big advantage over Bragdon is that they should be much more easy to find. Likely any store (on line or LHS) that carries Tamiya paints or models should have them soon. Any of you boys that do aircraft models know Tamiya is a world leader at this point. Worth a look.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 2, 2006 7:08 PM
I'll take a look at that ASAP.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 9, 2006 11:27 AM
This thread is beginning to disappear again.
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Posted by Bob W on Tuesday, May 16, 2006 12:03 PM
Which weathering powders are the best? I see a lot of comments about AIM's and Bragdon's. Micro-Mark sells Doc O'Brien's, which I have not seen any comments about.
Is any one significantly better or easier to use? I am a beginner when it comes to weathering.

Thanks
Bob W [FL]

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 16, 2006 3:24 PM
I use A.I.M. I'm not sure if there's much difference in any of them. Aggro can give you more info on Bragdon's.

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 16, 2006 4:08 PM
This is what happens when you do extreme weathering LOL.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 17, 2006 3:19 PM
I've recently been using the AIM powders and liquids. Great stuff...

One small technique I've discovered. If you want a "peeling paint" look try this. Paint any plastic model surface with a cheap acrylic paint (from the tubes at an art supply outlet) Let it dry a day or so, then brush on 90% Isopropyl Alcohol and let it sit for a few mins. Then, using a dry brush, rub the surface in u p and down strokes. The acrylic paint will bubble up and flake off. Let it all dry and you have real peeled paint....
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 24, 2006 8:40 PM
Bump.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 24, 2006 8:53 PM
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Posted by MrKLUKE on Wednesday, May 24, 2006 9:20 PM

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, June 2, 2006 12:48 PM
Trucks...trucks...trucks...

They can be a pain in the [:O] to get right. Fortunately, some talented individuals have concocted several methods for realistic trucks. Check out "The Never Ending Quest for Realistic Looking Trucks" over on MTW.


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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, June 2, 2006 2:09 PM
Thanks for putting all of this info in one place[bow]

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