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The Weathering Thread-For Newbies and Seasoned Weathering Gurus Alike

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Posted by on30francisco on Sunday, May 13, 2007 6:04 PM
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I want to weather some wooden models with either Bragdon or Doc O'Brian weathering systems. Is it necessary to first spray wooden models with Dullcoat or will the powders adhere when directly applied to the stained but unsprayed surface?

Does spraying a wooden model with Dullcoat seal and protect the wood from warping due to moisture besides fixing the weathered powders? 

This is a fantastic and extremely helpful thread and I have found a lot of useful information on it. I wish there was an additional forum for weathering techniques. 

I discovered the answer to my own question. Weathering powders and chalks adhere extremely well to wooden surfaces - no dullcote or other fixatives necessary. 

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Posted by bogp40 on Sunday, May 13, 2007 6:25 AM

 JPM335 wrote:
I like the AIM powders because there are more colors than Bragdon. They have adhesive like bragdon, but you DO have to seal the model if you want your hard work to last. I also use goache, hairspray, diluted acrylics, alchohal (bad spellingBig Smile [:D]) and of course, the common denominator, water.

Dont forget about the effects you can get putting alchohal (Big Smile [:D]) on dull cote. it turns white, and with a little practice it is a great technique. Plus, if you screw up, spray the dullcote again and its gone!

One of my favorite techniques is to mix burnt umber, raw umber and burnt sienna goache and dab a cosmetic sponge on it. Then dab the sponge on paper until its just leaving little speckles. Do this on the model and it looks like paint flaking and rusting.

I find that the factory paint finish on all my newer Atlas and P2Ks ,although don't seem to glossy, just don't want to hold the Braegdon powders. I hate to dullcoat the entire engine only to do some slight weathering. Any suggestions? Have really worked the powder in hard a couple of applications and it will just rub of will light handling. It is OK for weathering the cracks and crevases.

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Posted by SteamFreak on Sunday, May 13, 2007 1:48 AM
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Posted by AggroJones on Thursday, May 10, 2007 7:31 PM

Up again.

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Posted by AggroJones on Saturday, January 6, 2007 9:35 PM

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Pretty much anything I ever weathered began with a misting of dullcote. Then whatever. Then another dull misting. Then whatever. Layers. Its all about layers. You gotta know what layers to do when and how.

So true. Layers...layers....layers.....

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Posted by on30francisco on Friday, January 5, 2007 11:13 AM

I want to weather some wooden models with either Bragdon or Doc O'Brian weathering systems. Is it necessary to first spray wooden models with Dullcoat or will the powders adhere when directly applied to the stained but unsprayed surface?

Does spraying a wooden model with Dullcoat seal and protect the wood from warping due to moisture besides fixing the weathered powders? 

This is a fantastic and extremely helpful thread and I have found a lot of useful information on it. I wish there was an additional forum for weathering techniques. 

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, June 9, 2006 1:46 PM
Great series, Jeff.
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Posted by MrKLUKE on Friday, June 2, 2006 4:59 PM

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, June 2, 2006 4:39 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by chinatown782411

Thanks for putting all of this info in one place[bow]

Glad to be of service.



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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, June 2, 2006 2:09 PM
Thanks for putting all of this info in one place[bow]
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, June 2, 2006 12:48 PM
Trucks...trucks...trucks...

They can be a pain in the [:O] to get right. Fortunately, some talented individuals have concocted several methods for realistic trucks. Check out "The Never Ending Quest for Realistic Looking Trucks" over on MTW.


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Posted by MrKLUKE on Wednesday, May 24, 2006 9:20 PM

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 24, 2006 8:53 PM
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 24, 2006 8:40 PM
Bump.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 17, 2006 3:19 PM
I've recently been using the AIM powders and liquids. Great stuff...

One small technique I've discovered. If you want a "peeling paint" look try this. Paint any plastic model surface with a cheap acrylic paint (from the tubes at an art supply outlet) Let it dry a day or so, then brush on 90% Isopropyl Alcohol and let it sit for a few mins. Then, using a dry brush, rub the surface in u p and down strokes. The acrylic paint will bubble up and flake off. Let it all dry and you have real peeled paint....
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 16, 2006 4:08 PM
This is what happens when you do extreme weathering LOL.

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 16, 2006 3:24 PM
I use A.I.M. I'm not sure if there's much difference in any of them. Aggro can give you more info on Bragdon's.

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Posted by Bob W on Tuesday, May 16, 2006 12:03 PM
Which weathering powders are the best? I see a lot of comments about AIM's and Bragdon's. Micro-Mark sells Doc O'Brien's, which I have not seen any comments about.
Is any one significantly better or easier to use? I am a beginner when it comes to weathering.

Thanks
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 9, 2006 11:27 AM
This thread is beginning to disappear again.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 2, 2006 7:08 PM
I'll take a look at that ASAP.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, April 29, 2006 5:38 PM
Hello All,

For those that may be interested, Tamiya, the company best known for it's sensational plastic model aircraft and armor, has just released a line of weathering powders. They appear to be aimed at armor modelers, but railroads seem to weather in a similar fashion. Right now, there are only 9 colors available, but they're good ones. The big advantage over Bragdon is that they should be much more easy to find. Likely any store (on line or LHS) that carries Tamiya paints or models should have them soon. Any of you boys that do aircraft models know Tamiya is a world leader at this point. Worth a look.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, April 29, 2006 10:56 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by JAILBREAKER74

lets keep this thread

Yes, let's.

Back to the top.
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Posted by pcarrell on Wednesday, April 26, 2006 8:49 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by DanSnyder

Does anyone know of any videos that shows weathering or anyone have any tips on doing passenger cars thanks


This is a great website done by our very own Joe Fugate;

http://siskiyou.railfan.net/
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, April 24, 2006 9:30 PM
Does anyone know of any videos that shows weathering or anyone have any tips on doing passenger cars thanks
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, April 24, 2006 4:00 PM
lets keep this thread
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, April 23, 2006 9:28 PM
Somebody was looking for the web site for AIM Products for weathering powders.
Look at
www.aimprodx.com

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Posted by beegle55 on Thursday, April 6, 2006 7:36 AM
I'm going to reply to this post to get it back into the first page b/c I am looking for good advice on weathering and I might get it right here, hopefully!
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Posted by AggroJones on Wednesday, April 5, 2006 9:28 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by uspscsx

QUOTE: Originally posted by AggroJones

Playing music in the back ground helps you work. Its gets you in a groove.

I blasted SOAD songs during the biggest part of making my last rust bucket.

[2c]

Which CD were you playing? I'll have to try that.

Some stuff from Mezmerize and Hypnotize:

Stealing Society, She's Like Heroin, Dreaming, Cigaro, This Cocaine Makes Me Feel Like I’m On This Song, Old School Hollywood, B.Y.O.B.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, April 5, 2006 4:09 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by AggroJones

Playing music in the back ground helps you work. Its gets you in a groove.

I blasted SOAD songs during the biggest part of making my last rust bucket.

[2c]

Which CD were you playing? I'll have to try that.


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