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Hand Spiking into Pine - bad experience.
Hand Spiking into Pine - bad experience.
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Anonymous
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April 2003
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Posted by
Anonymous
on Saturday, February 11, 2006 4:50 AM
Hmmm - possible false alarm.
Are 2x4's usually made from Pine? A quick Lowe's search tells me they're douglas fir.
Hmmm - just did a search on wood densities - pine and douglas fir are the same density.
So I still have a problem! I just hate the idea of happily spiking away, then running into dense wood right where I need some spikes. Arggghhhh!
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Anonymous
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April 2003
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Posted by
Anonymous
on Saturday, February 11, 2006 4:35 AM
I'm now starting to ponder the hot glue method...
read some cool things about using pliobond after doing a google search.
Gluing would allow me to use cork roadbed instead of custom cutting pine or homasote. (yes, I've seen homabed, but the prices are a bit much for my super-cheap track construction I'm trying to pull off...)
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Medina1128
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April 2003
From: Clinton, MO, US
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Posted by
Medina1128
on Saturday, February 11, 2006 4:31 AM
How about predrilling the ties and wood with a bit smaller than the diameter of the spikes? It would allow the spikes to be driven and still hold tight.
Marlon
See pictures of the Clinton-Golden Valley RR
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Virginian
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May 2004
From: Ohio
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Posted by
Virginian
on Saturday, February 11, 2006 4:06 AM
Homasote is perfect. Consistent texture and holds spikes well. There are also several other varieties of wood you may want to try that might do what you want. I would take a handful of spikes and head for Lowes or Home Depot and see what's what.
What could have happened.... did.
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Anonymous
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Hand Spiking into Pine - bad experience.
Posted by
Anonymous
on Saturday, February 11, 2006 2:22 AM
So I was doing some handlaid turnout construction practicing tonight. Things were going well. My frog was looking sweet. My switch points were sharp and burr-free.
But then when I went to spike everything into place, things went downhill.
I was practicing on a piece of scrap 2 x 4. I quickly discovered that the density of the wood varies enough to make spikes impossible to drive into some spots. And if it's where I need spikes, I'm out of luck!
So I'm looking for alternatives, including homasote.
Has anyone used it for hand spiking? I like the idea of wood - seems like it will hold spikes forever, but the natural variation is just too great. I suppose an alternative may be to get some real high quality wood or something.
I may also consider soldering to PC ties instead of spiking. The cool thing about spiking is that I could ballast first - which gives perfect-looking ballasting.
Hmmmm.
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