And this one makes 1,000...

[Budliner]

QUOTE: Originally posted by capt_turk

Now you are "OFFICIALLY" a motor mouth!!!![(-D][(-D][(-D][(-D]

ya motor mouth
you can type its been 1000 all day
1001 is cool too


trackalack

K

[ICRR1964]

Yaaaawwwn! [zzz]

[SpaceMouse]

I'm not exactly sure of why web sites have rank systems, but for some it is fun to rack up post and accomplish something. Whether one personally agrees with the value of this acheivement or not, it is realtively harmless, and while it grates on the nerves of some, what is the problem really?

It pushes the posts we might rather see, but that only means we have to go to the inconvenience of changing the page. One could argue that if more than one person starts such a campaign we could get into a pitching contest of where they compete to see who can rack up a bunch of posts while sometimes barely hanging on by a thread of relavency. In this case, we might have to go to page 3 or 4 to find our posts. But what is that but a few minutes of reading or searching. If we work at it we can still find posts that are interesting.

So I ask you what does it matter?

[Anonymous]

I have dial-up and it takes 2-5 min. for a page to load. That's what matters to me. Esp. when there are 5 pages of general dicussion to sift through to find someting interesting (i don't read every topic but i do look at each page with "new posts since my last visit" so i don't miss anything)

[edkowal]

QUOTE: Originally posted by SpaceMouse



( Large bit of snipping in here )

....So I ask you what does it matter?

I believe that was the point that Brunton and I and others was trying to make in the first place. In my opinion, it doesn't matter at all.

-Ed

[SpaceMouse]

QUOTE: Originally posted by edkowal

QUOTE: Originally posted by SpaceMouse



( Large bit of snipping in here )

....So I ask you what does it matter?

I believe that was the point that Brunton and I and others was trying to make in the first place. In my opinion, it doesn't matter at all.

-Ed

Good, I was wondering what I said.

[1shado1]

QUOTE: Originally posted by SpaceMouse

So I ask you what does it matter?

It matters because unlike you, we don't all have an (apparently) inexhaustable amount of time to spend here searching for relavent topics amongst all the chaff.[:D]

Jeff

[Tracklayer]

Gosh. I didn't realize I had so many enemies on the forum...

I don't hold a college degree like a lot of you fellas, nor am I into DCC and all the latest in high tech model railroading. I'm just a 42 year old guy that's had a head injury that likes trains, and tries to burn his spare time by trying to entertain you the best I can with what little I know and what goes on in my small, unimportant life.

I'm sorry I've wasted your time with my topics. I wish you the best with your forum here. I won't be a bother to you anymore. Now maybe things will get back to normal for you.

Tracklayer

[1shado1]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Tracklayer

Gosh. I didn't realize I had so many enemies on the forum...

I don't hold a college degree like a lot of you fellas, nor am I into DCC and all the latest in high tech model railroading. I'm just a 42 year old guy that's had a head injury that likes trains, and tries to burn his spare time by trying to entertain you the best I can with what little I know and what goes on in my small, unimportant life.

I'm sorry I've wasted your time with my topics. I wish you the best with your forum here. I won't be a bother to you anymore. Now maybe things will get back to normal for you.

Tracklayer

FWIW, I happen to enjoy your topics very much. [tup] Except for the 1000th post one, and the ones where you feel the need to announce your departure from the forum. Either stay, or go. But please quit with the drama.[:D]

Jeff

[edkowal]

Tracklayer:

I hope it helps if you realize that all of these posts are only one person's opinion on any topic. None of us are the world's last authority on anything. And we are all equally fallible.

That's the sort of thing you get at one of these discussion groups. I don't try to tell anyone else what they should or shouldn't do on these forums. If that's what you read, then I apologize, that's not what was meant.

-Ed

[PennsyHoosier]

Who pays attention to the stars? Keep on posting all--I simply enjoy the conversation. I don't care how many posts anyone has.

[selector]

I can see that we have two completely different conversations happening concurrently. Several of you are wanting to know why so many relatively fluffy, if benign, threads have been started recently by three or four members, while Mouse is wondering why the issue of the star counts should ever really matter. They are irrelevant to most of us, probably, but some of us take it as a sign of seniority in the forum. As anyone who has kept up with my musings will aver, quality and quantity are sometimes hard to mate on this forum. [:)], and seniority is quickly discerned when the poster says something that others value time after time...usually due to an accumulation and a wealth of experience and knowledge.

There are always the zealots in every crowd, an irritant to some, and a whip for others. In this crowd, we are encouraged to share our views, to assist in setting the tone, and to keeping it clean and policed. That responsibility befalls every one of us, so we should all be honest and speak up when we know it is right to do. Every one of us.

We seem to go through this repeatedly, but we are guests here, and we must share bandwidth with all members, irrespective of their star counts, which, by the way, I would be very happy to see gone. It is almost an embarrasment to me, if you must know, and I'm sure it does nothing to spur new registrations on this forum.

So, if you must collect coloured stars, a la elementary school, go ahead, but don't equat the stars with credibility....ever....except in Mouse's case, and several others whom we all know and admire. [:D]

Post away, but have the grace on this very public forum to accept the rebukes from the dissenters. It's part of the game here.

[james saunders]

personally i dont mind "tracky" he has good quality posts..

[Tracklayer]

QUOTE: Originally posted by james saunders

personally i dont mind "tracky" he has good quality posts..

Thanks james. I wi***hey were all quality posts, but sometimes no matter how hard I try, they just don't make the grade.

I regret creating this topic now because of the results it caused ([B)]). I also agree with the others that the stars really shouldn't be there because they send the wrong message to some as to what the forum is really all about - which I admit I let myself get caught up in...

From now on, I'm leaving the topics and polls up to you guys, and if you hit on something that interest me, I'll toss in my two cents worth.

Until then.

Tracky (Tracklayer([8]))

[dwRavenstar]

Tracklayer,

I can't recall ever having a problem with your posting and would point out that if even 10% of your total posts (certainly it's waaaay higher) were informative or helpful you've far outpaced quite a few others in fulfilling the advertised goal of the forum.

While so many others have been attacking and tromping on the opinions of others that don't agree with their own, a poster like you who so often assists and uplifts the other members is a necessary and welcome asset.

dwRavenstar

[Budliner]

I say post away and let the fluff fall to the bottom
even a bad thread may get some good info if the right person so chooses to chime in


dont give in so easy we need more like you to keep the ideas flowing

k

[Tracklayer]

QUOTE: Originally posted by dwRavenstar

Tracklayer,

I can't recall ever having a problem with your posting and would point out that if even 10% of your total posts (certainly it's waaaay higher) were informative or helpful you've far outpaced quite a few others in fulfilling the advertised goal of the forum.

While so many others have been attacking and tromping on the opinions of others that don't agree with their own, a poster like you who so often assists and uplifts the other members is a necessary and welcome asset.

dwRavenstar

Thank you dwRavenstar, I appreciate that.

I think part of the problem is that we have members that frown on anything that's not "hard core model railroading". In other words, if it's too simple of a subject or not what they want to read, they get real irritable and start insulting - not taking into account that the person they're insulting isn't the kind of person that would be that way toward them, which I'm not. I always try and respect the other members and be as helpful as I can. You won't ever see me gang up on someone like a lot of members do when someone posts a topic or something they shouldn't. However, I do pop off and make remarks once in a while out of anger, that, or threaten to leave the forum never to return, but then, I'm as human as everyone else here.
As for the topics I write. I do so because the usual topics get kind of stale and boring sometimes, so to help liven things up a little, I open up and talk about my life - such as it is...

From now on, I'm going to write about anything I want to no matter what the gripers have to say about it. If they don't like it they can report me to Bergie and we'll go from there, or they can find another forum, but this one is mine as much as it is theirs. I may also change my policy about not arguing back with people and start telling my critics to go straight to hell!.

Tracklayer

[pcarrell]

QUOTE: Originally posted by selector

I can see that we have two completely different conversations happening concurrently. Several of you are wanting to know why so many relatively fluffy, if benign, threads have been started recently by three or four members, while Mouse is wondering why the issue of the star counts should ever really matter. They are irrelevant to most of us, probably, but some of us take it as a sign of seniority in the forum. As anyone who has kept up with my musings will aver, quality and quantity are sometimes hard to mate on this forum. [:)], and seniority is quickly discerned when the poster says something that others value time after time...usually due to an accumulation and a wealth of experience and knowledge.

There are always the zealots in every crowd, an irritant to some, and a whip for others. In this crowd, we are encouraged to share our views, to assist in setting the tone, and to keeping it clean and policed. That responsibility befalls every one of us, so we should all be honest and speak up when we know it is right to do. Every one of us.

We seem to go through this repeatedly, but we are guests here, and we must share bandwidth with all members, irrespective of their star counts, which, by the way, I would be very happy to see gone. It is almost an embarrasment to me, if you must know, and I'm sure it does nothing to spur new registrations on this forum.

So, if you must collect coloured stars, a la elementary school, go ahead, but don't equat the stars with credibility....ever....except in Mouse's case, and several others whom we all know and admire. [:D]

Post away, but have the grace on this very public forum to accept the rebukes from the dissenters. It's part of the game here.

Well said selector, well said! [8D]

[pcarrell]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Tracklayer

I may also change my policy about not arguing back with people and start telling my critics to go straight to hell!.

Take the high road. Don't sling mud, you'll get muddy too.

[ICRR1964]

Tracklayer,
Don't take offense to what people like to see and not see. You have had allot of good post. What some are trying to point out, just to show you. Let say some new person comes to the forum asking a good question. He post the question, then is bumped to page 2 or three in a matter of hours and hardly gets any response to his question, because of multiple threads being started buy different members who spend allot of time in the forum. Your not the only one that does it so don't get mad at me please.

Some of us here in the forum just look at things different than others do. As far as the Stars and the numbers beside each person name, well I would love to see it go away. Spending 3 to 10 hours a day in forum is way to much time for me, I need to work and work on my layout. And as far as the stars and numbers, it tells a story to some of use here in the forum. When you have a member who has whatever amount of post in a six month period or less, and that number is up there high, you can pretty much see what they are shooting for. Then to post about how many stars or numbers they have, kind of gives them away. The hugging each other, high five's, and slapping on the back is just a dead give away.

Learning things about MR comes with time and getting your hands dirty, we all know that. People thinking that they are some senior member because of their stars or numbers is leading them blind. We are all still learning the art of MR, and learning new things from each other.

Don't take me wrong Tracklayer, you do throw out some good threads that challenge peoples minds. I for one look for the threads that get unanswered in the back pages and concentrate on helping them if I can. I post to some of yours from time to time to.

As far as the bragging post, I walk buy it all the time. Some will say I am just jealous of the stars and numbers others have, but in truth, I could really care less. I was always one and still am my own person, never have been a follower or chase after a click in real life or a forum. I am sure there are allot of use here in the forum that are like me in their own respect, but thats just us. In my eyes we are all different and have different thoughts.

Know one is telling you to leave forum, you do do good things, so please no drama. Your part of a MR family like the rest of us, you just do things different, which makes you your own person like me.

[tstage]

VERY well put, ICRR1964! [tup]

I agree. If possible, we need to, if possible, post less often and take ICRR1964's advice and look for the newbies who are REALLY in need of help and advice. And to set the record straight, I may have a few stars to my "name" but I still consider myself a newbie in many respects and like to learn as much as I can. Equally, I like to help others out with the limited knowledge that I have obtained and retained from either my personal experiences or the plethora of knowledge that I have gleaned from here.

Tom

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Take the high road. Don't sling mud, you'll get muddy too.

Like they say, if you get into a mud slinging match with a pig, you both get muddy, but only one of you enjoys it.

Mike Tennent

[talon104]

well, i havent replied to any post in about two weeks now( just been lingering in here from time to time)[;)]. The way i look at things at "At least in my perspective" is the stars are just that stars.To me it shows the people that have been here longest and have hopefully, the most knowledge i this hobby.i seach the forum ,read posts here and there, And am usually drawn to the posts of the usuals, the people like tracklayer,selector, mcbruce, pcarrell,spacemouse etc.etc. that i have gotten information from and have helped me out with my little adventure in this thing we call model railroading.
i read the post and hopefulyl get something out of it . I'll post a reply to a question ever so often but, usually dont unless i feel that something i might say might help a fellow that is getting started . You guy are in my book all great and if i need help i am sure most will help, so with that note i say either read the post or just move on to the next. standing outside at night i see alot of stars sometime but, the information i get here is what counts to me[:D]
In closing i am sitting here thinking my biggest concern is not mesing up all the money i've spent on my supplies and layout ,trains etc. to worry about stars or anything else
If this is off topic in anyway sorry , but skimming through some of the posts i couldnt resist.
Chris

[Anonymous]

Here's the skinny, it's a public forum,with human contact,so everyone has some insight on any given subject,if you don't like a post, DON'T read it,find what looks interesting and move on. It's like watching a bad tv show,just change the channel. Some people like to read them, I choose what I think I like or maybe answer and move on. Do I like every post, oh no, but each of us has a unique personality, so we're all going to see things from a different perspective. Are many threads useless? Maybe, but who am I to judge? Let's face people we're talking about model trains here, quit making it so philosophical, because it's not . Write on brothers.........mike h

[Anonymous]

Well put ICRR1964. But

QUOTE: When you have a member who has whatever amount of post in a six month period or less, and that number is up there high, you can pretty much see what they are shooting for

I can't help but think you're reffering to me. Well, that is NOT what I was going for.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Tracklayer
As for the topics I write. I do so because the usual topics get kind of stale and boring sometimes, so to help liven things up a little, I open up and talk about my life - such as it is...

Dude, to be brutally honest, there are always enough on-topic model railroading threads going so that we never need to hear about anyone's personal life.

We don't need more threads. If you're starting them because you are bored, you might need another outlet. Maybe pick up a hobby. I hear model trains are fun.

[SpaceMouse]

QUOTE: Originally posted by dingoix

Well put ICRR1964. But

QUOTE: When you have a member who has whatever amount of post in a six month period or less, and that number is up there high, you can pretty much see what they are shooting for

I can't help but think you're reffering to me. Well, that is NOT what I was going for.

Don't take it personally. Post within your own integrity and everyone will see it.

[Tracklayer]

QUOTE: Originally posted by alco_fan

QUOTE: Originally posted by Tracklayer
As for the topics I write. I do so because the usual topics get kind of stale and boring sometimes, so to help liven things up a little, I open up and talk about my life - such as it is...

Dude, to be brutally honest, there are always enough on-topic model railroading threads going so that we never need to hear about anyone's personal life.

We don't need more threads. If you're starting them because you are bored, you might need another outlet. Maybe pick up a hobby. I hear model trains are fun.

alco_fan, you mean to tell me that you don't care to hear that my dog has a urinary track infection or that I bought one of those stupid shake light flash lights recently only to find it's nothing but a gimmick or that some dumb *** dumped about fifty pounds of animal insides out on my favorite walking road and I had to call the county to come clean it up... What is the world coming to when people don't care for juicy news like that ?!.
Tell you what. I'm going to write about anything I want to from now on whether you or members like you like it or not and throw trains in once in a while just to cover my rear. If that's a problem, feel free to contact Bergie. And like I said in an earlier reply, the door to hell is always open and you're always welcome...

Tracklayer

[Anonymous]

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[Anonymous]

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