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Posted by Jetrock on Saturday, January 21, 2006 4:10 AM
Amtrak did have to change the name of the Chi/LAX run to "Southwest Chief" because BNSF didn't want to give up rights to the name...
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, January 21, 2006 7:16 AM
I am sorry, but that's the uglyest thing on wheels since the edsel.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, January 21, 2006 7:33 AM
It's hard to remain a blue oval loyalist when they keep cranking out stupid stuff like this. It's a pick-up truck. The only thing luxury on a pick-up truck should be an ashtray and automatic transmission. This is just another obscenely overpirced piece of garbage for stupid yuppy imbiciles who just don't "get it". Only time that thing will pull any off-road duty is if the dunce driving it backs into his wife's flowerbed.

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, January 21, 2006 8:48 AM
Urgh - what is that thing? Can't see it lasting long if you put it to work - those skinny tyres would be useless off paved roads. It also wouldn't fit down the majority of our back roads.

The worrying thing is that Ford now own Land Rover and seem intent on pushing them into making this sort of thing. Think I'll be keeping my '96 Disco for a for more years to come - no electronics other than the radio, manual transmission (saves fuel - you see around 7mpg improvement compared to the auto version, 30mpg rather than 22) and a simple lever to handle diff lock and transfer box. Only driver aid is power steering. A bit more reliable than the new models too by the sounds of it...
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, January 21, 2006 9:11 AM
QUOTE: I think I'm going to go outside and hug my Silverado. [:D]
I think we all should.
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Posted by mustanggt on Saturday, January 21, 2006 9:41 AM
That thing might be ugly, but don't badmouth Fords. Especially the Mustang[:(!]....... The only bad Fords IMHO were the Pinto, tempo, 1980 T-bird, the Festiva (not fiesta, a cooler euro car) Edsels, and all American escorts......But the trucks were always Ford's strong point, more so than cars. My dad swears by Ford trucks, and won't take any other truck.

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, January 21, 2006 9:46 AM
Yeah I myself own a `96 T-Bird and used to own a `95 F-150 and before that an `83 T-bird. My favorite car ford makes are the mustangs. But that botched abortion is not a truck.
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Posted by Budliner on Saturday, January 21, 2006 4:47 PM
what this thing
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, January 21, 2006 5:58 PM
Actually, in the automotive world, the Super Chief was first a Pontiac.
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Posted by onetrack64 on Saturday, January 21, 2006 6:05 PM
Now that's FUGLY!!!

I knew there was another reason I bought a Chevy today. I just didn't know it at the time.
What happened to all the color, why is everything in black and white?
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Posted by tmcc man on Saturday, January 21, 2006 6:39 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by rrgrassi

FORD

Fault Of Research & Developement
For Other Retarded Drivers


You forgot 3 more

Fixed Or Repaired Daily

Fords Only Roll Downhill

Found On Road Dead
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Posted by marknewton on Saturday, January 21, 2006 6:40 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by David_Telesha

Ugly truck, and I think there is nothing overly special about the Super Chief train, it is far over-rated along with its RR.


[:D][:D][:D] LOL! [:D][:D][:D]

Good on yer, David! The New Haven's name trains were much more luxurious and much better known, weren't they?

Oh, they weren't?

Toodle-loo,

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Posted by tmcc man on Saturday, January 21, 2006 6:42 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Railroading_Brit

Urgh - what is that thing? Can't see it lasting long if you put it to work - those skinny tyres would be useless off paved roads. It also wouldn't fit down the majority of our back roads.

The worrying thing is that Ford now own Land Rover and seem intent on pushing them into making this sort of thing. Think I'll be keeping my '96 Disco for a for more years to come - no electronics other than the radio, manual transmission (saves fuel - you see around 7mpg improvement compared to the auto version, 30mpg rather than 22) and a simple lever to handle diff lock and transfer box. Only driver aid is power steering. A bit more reliable than the new models too by the sounds of it...


Actually, I believe they sold Land Rover off. I believe BMW now owns it. I am not sure.
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Posted by David_Telesha on Saturday, January 21, 2006 7:57 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by marknewton

QUOTE: Originally posted by David_Telesha

Ugly truck, and I think there is nothing overly special about the Super Chief train, it is far over-rated along with its RR.


[:D][:D][:D] LOL! [:D][:D][:D]

Good on yer, David! The New Haven's name trains were much more luxurious and much better known, weren't they?

Oh, they weren't?

Toodle-loo,

Mark.


As a matter of fact they were more luxurious and any one traveling in the Northeast knew them.

Was the Sewer Chief an all Pullman Parlor train like the Merhants Ltd.?

Was time kept in seconds across the desert?

Oh no, coach again and late...

Tell me - whats so special about the Super Chief and Santa Fe? Nothing except its over rated and promoted.
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Posted by Budliner on Saturday, January 21, 2006 8:06 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by tmcc man

QUOTE: Originally posted by rrgrassi

FORD

Fault Of Research & Developement
For Other Retarded Drivers


You forgot 3 more


Fixed Or Repaired Daily

Fords Only Roll Downhill

Found On Road Dead


flip over read directions


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Posted by marknewton on Saturday, January 21, 2006 8:06 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by David_Telesha

As a matter of fact they were more luxurious and any one traveling in the Northeast knew them.

"As a matter of fact" - a phrase that usually means; "Here is my uninformed opinion, which I'm presenting as fact."

The NH's trains weren't as well appointed as the Santa Fe's, nor were they as well known throughout the US and the rest of the world.

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Posted by Budliner on Saturday, January 21, 2006 8:09 PM
Fu(ked over repair dodge

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Posted by David_Telesha on Saturday, January 21, 2006 8:10 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by marknewton

QUOTE: Originally posted by David_Telesha

As a matter of fact they were more luxurious and any one traveling in the Northeast knew them.

"As a matter of fact" - a phrase that usually means; "Here is my uninformed opinion, which I'm presenting as fact."

The NH's trains weren't as well appointed as the Santa Fe's, nor were they as well known throughout the US and the rest of the world.


Oh I'm so sorry the Merhchants Ltd make the Chief look like second class.

Are you really disputing it was 100% Pullman Parlor (and two diners), and its time was kept in seconds?

Attacking the phrase some one uses is usually cover for "I'm superior, I know it all, don't bother me with the facts.".

On top of that I never said NH trains where known throughout the US and World. Niether was the Chief.

I said NH trains were known to everyone and anyone traveling in the Northeast - just as nobody but people traveling in the midwest/west gave a hoot about the SF.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, January 21, 2006 11:10 PM
Royal Oaker is obviously a long suffering fan of Bill Ford and the Lions of Detroit infamy!!!
We all share the PAIN!
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Posted by dinwitty on Sunday, January 22, 2006 12:18 AM
drawing inspiration, and thats where it quits..

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Posted by twcenterprises on Sunday, January 22, 2006 1:07 AM
As far as trademarks and such goes, I am fairly sure Ford has taken all the legal steps before using any name for a vehicle. I mean, they have a whole team of lawyers on retainer for just such things.

That is an Uugg-llyy piece of hardware, and a terrible waste of metal, plastic, fiberglass, and rubber. And who says the SSR is an ugly vehicle? A bit overpriced, retro early '50's version of the El Camino, perhaps. Give me a GM vehicle any day.

BTW, did anyone know, that Ford assembly plant switchers were actually GE products? For those of you who have the book "Diesel locomotives: the first 50 years", look on page 151. There's what looks like the builder's photo. Not a bad looking switcher. Ford had 8 of these.

It's interesting to note that Ford has not ventured into the locomotive, heavy equipment (bulldozer), or diesel engine markets. GM has by way of EMD, Terex, and Detriot Diesel, respectively. Ford, Dodge, and GM have all built medium and heavy highway trucks at some point in the past. OTOH, Ford has built farm tractors and similar size tractors, but not their own diesel engines for their trucks. That's why Detroit Diesel was named, so GM engines could be used in other brands of trucks (not just Ford; International used them, too) without advertising a different brand whenever someone opened the hood. Ford uses the Powerstroke engine, which is actually made by International (Navistar), has been for like 25 years. I think I read somewhere (MR perhaps) that Ford is the only company that has a glass plant large enough to make all the glass used in US auto manufacturing today, but they sell it under names like Owens-Corning, Guardian, and so-on for the same reasons.

OK so Ford made the Pinto, Edsel, and a few others, but what about GM making the Vega, Monza, Citation, Chevette, Sprint, the early 700R4 transmissions, and some of their other "duds"? What about the Chrysler/Dodge Daytona (early 80's), Aries, and many other early 80's front wheel drives? Truth is all of them have produced some clunkers over the years, and they all have produced some winners.

So, to get back to trains, that thing doesn't look like a Super Chief to me. I don't see anything "super" about it at all. Doesn't even remind me of a RR passenger car. Maybe if they put some fluted stainless steel siding on it..........some end doors with diaphragms............Pull it around with an F7....................

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Posted by TrainFreak409 on Sunday, January 22, 2006 8:20 PM
That's a BIG truck. I'll take one.[:D] Wouldn't mind having some hy-railers on it either.

When they say that they draw inspiration from the train, they are probably referring to the interior. The size of the nose maybe as well...Since it has what looks like a higher than normal hood, like F units did.

Fords are great cars. Any car that can stand up to my father must be a great car...For example; our Aspire kept running after it had struck about six deer, went off the road, and rear ended a truck.

I'd rather push a Ford, than drive a Chevy.[:p]

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Posted by Budliner on Monday, January 23, 2006 3:03 PM
closing down 4 plants and laying off 35000 workers

ouch
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Posted by marknewton on Tuesday, January 24, 2006 5:16 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by David_Telesha

Oh I'm so sorry the Merhchants Ltd make the Chief look like second class.

That's opinion, not fact.

QUOTE: Are you really disputing it was 100% Pullman Parlor (and two diners)

Big deal. Some scabby old Pullman cars don't compare to modern streamliners. Or are you really claiming old Pullmans were more luxurious?

QUOTE: and its time was kept in seconds?

Proof?

QUOTE: Attacking the phrase some one uses is usually cover for "I'm superior, I know it all, don't bother me with the facts.".

That's you in a nutshell, Davo. You haven't posted any facts yet, only opinion and hearsay. So my "attacks", as you call them, are justified.

QUOTE: On top of that I never said NH trains where known throughout the US and World. Niether was the Chief.

Wrong. The AT&SF and its name trains are very well known outside the US. I'm proof of that, living as I do in the backblocks of Australia . The NH isn't.

Toodle-loo,

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Posted by RoyalOaker on Tuesday, January 24, 2006 9:33 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Overdurff

Royal Oaker is obviously a long suffering fan of Bill Ford and the Lions of Detroit infamy!!!
We all share the PAIN!
Will


38 years of suffering and I am still a fan of the Lions. but, there is always hope for the next season.[:p]

Someone wanted to know if Landrover was still owned by Ford and the answer is Yes. They own Landrover, Astin Martin, Jaguar and have a controlling role in Mazda.
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Posted by David_Telesha on Tuesday, January 24, 2006 11:33 AM
Mark, you haven't posted any facts at all. NOT EVEN 1.

Fact: The Pullmans were not scabby, they were exclusive for this train, which shows how little you know.

Fact: PULLMAN Stainless steel cars appeared on the Merchants in 1947/8 - same consist.

You want proof of time keeping, ask a retired conductor or tower operator and look at the records. Have you?

FACT: And Mark, the NHRHTA has members in Canada, England, The Isle of Man, and I do believe Australia too.

What facts have you posted???
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Posted by David_Telesha on Tuesday, January 24, 2006 11:41 AM
Hey Mark,

Here is a list of what you posted. I see no FACTS what so ever.

Go ahead, keep flaming away. It only makes you look bad.

QUOTE: LOL!

Good on yer, David! The New Haven's name trains were much more luxurious and much better known, weren't they?

Oh, they weren't?

Toodle-loo,

Mark.
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"As a matter of fact" - a phrase that usually means; "Here is my uninformed opinion, which I'm presenting as fact."

The NH's trains weren't as well appointed as the Santa Fe's, nor were they as well known throughout the US and the rest of the world.
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That's opinion, not fact.

Big deal. Some scabby old Pullman cars don't compare to modern streamliners. Or are you really claiming old Pullmans were more luxurious?

Proof?

That's you in a nutshell, Davo. You haven't posted any facts yet, only opinion and hearsay. So my "attacks", as you call them, are justified.

Wrong. The AT&SF and its name trains are very well known outside the US. I'm proof of that, living as I do in the backblocks of Australia . The NH isn't.

Toodle-loo,

Mark.
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Posted by marknewton on Tuesday, January 24, 2006 1:18 PM
The fishing's good around here...plenty of bites.
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Posted by cwclark on Tuesday, January 24, 2006 1:25 PM
now you know why ford has to lay off all those workers.....poor quality and what an ugly truck....what was that?..Ford = Found On the Road Dead ...or was that?...FORD = Fix Or Repair Daily?

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Posted by Budliner on Tuesday, January 24, 2006 1:39 PM
FORD=full of rusty dents

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