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Posted by TrainFreak409 on Sunday, January 22, 2006 8:38 PM
I can't say that there is ANY locomotive I think is ugly...They are unique.[:D]

Although, I would take a steamer or a turbine over a diesel any day.

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Posted by tjsmrinfo on Sunday, January 22, 2006 8:27 PM
anything in UP armor yellow


i kinda like the Santa Fe prototype kitbashes like the beep and the CF-7


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Posted by twcenterprises on Sunday, January 22, 2006 1:47 AM
What do you get if you cross a Baldwin and a Geep? How about a "Beep"? It was SF's Baldwin switcher cab and frame with a GP7 long hood on Blomberg trucks. Weird looking.

QUOTE: Those cross-breed diesels from the Mexican Railroads. They would get an Alco unit and put a F-unit front end! Half RS-11,Half F-7!! Creative but Ugly!!!


Would that be called a F-RS 7-11?

About like any modern "wide nose" diesel. Were/are we copying the Mexicans?

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Posted by BigOzzy86 on Saturday, January 21, 2006 11:58 PM
The BL2.... looks like a pickup truck?
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Posted by Sunset Limited on Saturday, January 21, 2006 12:44 PM
Those cross-breed diesels from the Mexican Railroads. They would get an Alco unit and put a F-unit front end! Half RS-11,Half F-7!! [%-)] Creative but Ugly!!! [:D]
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, January 21, 2006 11:05 AM
Attached is a link to the Baldwin/EMD rebuilds done by the NKP on their old Baldwing AS-16's unfortunately you can't see a full side view with the differences in height and the number boards on the short hood. In my opinion these are among the ugliest diesels every made, the Alco rebuilds are at least somewhat viewable.

http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/nkp/nkp323o.jpg

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Posted by twcenterprises on Saturday, January 21, 2006 8:13 AM
RE: DL109

Unsure of center window, but just remember, it IS an Alco (diesel) product we're talking about. Although the RS3's were OK looking.

RE: P42

Remake of the early 30's era boxcabs. What's old is new again.......or something like that.

I'm surprised nobody's mentioned the IC 9201, 9202 transfer units, one built in 1936 by EMC, the other by Busch-Sulzer-GE. Weird looking at best, could qualify as UGLY.

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Posted by aloco on Saturday, January 21, 2006 2:21 AM
Shovelnose diesels are ugly too. The new passenger diesels made by EMD and GE fall into this category.
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Posted by jondrd on Friday, January 20, 2006 7:50 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by swdave

Amtrak P-42!!!!


[2c] Soon to be followed by an actual boxcar with a diesel prime mover. A boxcar could be argued to be a more honest design. It is what it is. What is a P-42? Boxcar with an angled end. JMHO

re: DL109. Never could figure out that windscreen, what's with that center window?

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Posted by NHRRJET on Friday, January 20, 2006 6:28 PM
The BL2!!
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, January 20, 2006 6:17 PM
Let's see........ GP30s!!! I hate the *** things! Geeps weren't meant for streamlining. The GMD1 is also quite ugly, as are the ALCO FAs, GE's Blue Tiger, BQ23-7s and that new concept for a passenger locomotive put out by GE. Thing looks like a space shuttle! Also, the early 3 window SD60Ms are UGLY, but then again, any wide cab with more than 2 windshields is ugly.
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Posted by tomikawaTT on Friday, January 20, 2006 6:05 PM
Going a little way back into history, didn't some west coast logging outfit inflict a diesel prime mover on the remains of a geared steamer? The result, with the homemade engine housing and cab, looked like a couple of po' folks farm outbuildings with wheels under them.

Ugliest thing in this category I've personally seen (also now defunct) was a four wheel loco on the 2'6" gauge Kiso Forest Railway in central Japan. It had long since lost the side panels to the engine compartment, so the (extremely rusty) prime mover was bare to the air. Add in that it probably hadn't been painted since it was new, and that the workers crammed aboard looked like one of those 'stuff the telephone booth' contests, and you get the idea.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, January 20, 2006 3:47 PM
Ugly diesels? EMD's SD24 and SD70ACe with a caveat. The '70ACe's in the heritage paint schemes, plus the one painted to look like Air Force One, aren't too bad looking.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, January 20, 2006 3:43 PM
Amtrak P-42!!!!
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Posted by jeffshultz on Friday, January 20, 2006 3:40 PM
GE U12 or U8... one of those oddities that they exported to South American and Australia.

Although the EMD GMD-1 won't win any beauty contests either.
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Posted by AntonioFP45 on Friday, January 20, 2006 3:36 PM
06Archerd,

Relax Amigo!!

Understandable.........but nobody's getting flamed, this thread has had a lot of feedback and everybody seems to be having fun! At least I am...........

Now...where were we? Oh yeah!....................I like the U-Boat series. That football player, "pug" cab earned it the nickname "*** Tracy" face by a railfan a while back. I think that nickname stuck.

If you like the sound of "horsepower" then once you hear a U-Boat running at full throttle, you'll become a fan!

Good to know there are still some running around the U.S. The Georgia Central has a batch of them.

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, January 20, 2006 12:46 PM
you know what is really ugly people starting worthless topics such as this!!! I mean come on this is supposed to be a forum to talk about models and the hobby in general and to help other people. Why do you guys start worthless topic like your fav railroad, least fav railroad and the lsit goes on and on, and this one fits right in with those. And those stupid question of the day polls have got to go too. I am getting fed up with all the stupid stuff that goes on here, that is why i spend most of my time these days on the Atlas forums.
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Posted by modelmaker51 on Friday, January 20, 2006 12:40 PM
My vote is for the Santa Fe's CF-7.

I love my D&H U-boats:

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Posted by SMassey on Friday, January 20, 2006 11:40 AM
TO meany of the older GE U-boats. These are trains that look like a pug (the dog if you are wondering) I think those are the ugliest dogs as well. now the newer ones with the wide cab look fine just the older ones that have that flattened nose.

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, January 20, 2006 11:35 AM
EMD NW-5 gets my vote. Sure wi***here was a model of it.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, January 20, 2006 11:31 AM
I think you would have to try very hard to find something to beat the British class 67 in the uglyness stakes! I think their nickname of "skips" says it all! I have a few "made up from the bits box" loco's but nothing that looks so toylike or awful!
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, January 20, 2006 11:05 AM
I think all diesles look sweet. They each have their own charm, the represen the power that keeps this nation moving!!!

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Posted by howmus on Friday, January 20, 2006 10:07 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Brunton

It's a universal tie - they're all butt-ugly.

[:o)]


Yep, never saw a good lookin' diseasal. Well, some are kinda OK, but they just can't compare to steam..... Ffffffwwwwwwwoooooooooooot chuff, chuff,chuff.

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Posted by Roadtrp on Friday, January 20, 2006 10:04 AM
Nothing can be uglier than the Baldwin DT-6-6-20.

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Posted by GAPPLEG on Friday, January 20, 2006 9:54 AM
I'm prejudiced , I work at GE ( I build the real thing ) I like all GE's built the U-50's in the early 70's and all types of Boats, I love - em.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, January 20, 2006 9:52 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Brunton

It's a universal tie - they're all butt-ugly.

[:o)]


I agree, all of them are.

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Posted by AntonioFP45 on Friday, January 20, 2006 9:33 AM
EMD,

Remember, the race was on with Alco in providing an "all around" do anything diesel that provided good visibility for the crew. The BL2 was an attempt at this but fortunately the boys at EMD came up with the GP7 to compete with the Alco's RS units which were a hit with the railroads.

BTW: Someone stated that the U50 is ugly? Hmmmmm. To each his own. I always felt that the looks of GE's U-Boats and the U50 conveyed Horsepower Muscle!

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Posted by emdgp92 on Friday, January 20, 2006 9:20 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by trolleyboy

Tough choice. I'm torn between the BL2 and those god awfull Krauss Maufie diesel hydrolics that the SP used for a while.


Both of those are nasty! I'm still trying to figure out what EMD was on when the BL2 was designed. Of course their parent company, GM, later blessed us with the Pontiac Aztek.... [:D]
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Posted by GAPPLEG on Friday, January 20, 2006 8:47 AM
[#ditto] The BL-2 has to be the winner, ugggllllyyyyy.

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