UP vs Model Railroaders This Madness has to end. (Lawyers I want options)

[Anonymous]

If im not correct. I think that KATO charges an extra $5.00 to your Locomotive.
$5.00 extra on "all" UP Models if im correct. Allan.

[Anonymous]

I'm with Ultimate Power on this one. MTH has given enough crap to DCC and QSI and modelers in general. UP is protecting their logos and nothing more. Atleast they're not trying to change the model railroad industry. And I don't consider adding $5-10 a big change. Besides, it's only for UP modelers and those who model their fallen flags. You don't like it, TOUGH. I hope MTH gets hit big time with this one.

[jnichols]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Student of Big Sky Blue
While I am not fond of MTH products or their lawsuit (or is it lawsuits?) over DCC. The antics of Union Pacific can no longer be tolarated.

These posts are never going to end are they? When has MTH ever sued a DCC company? The suit with QSI has nothing to do with DCC, it's over the PS2 system in the MTH O scale locomotives. Why do you guys keep repeating this garbage?

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I want to know of all of us start a lawsuit, can we get class action status and how many of it it will take and on what grounds can we sue to win. And is there a lawyer or group of laywers who are also model railroaders crazy eneugh to take this on.

Something Needs to be done before I start considering assassanation as a viable option. (Yes I am that angry over this. )

What a waste of time and energy. There is no reason UP can't defend it's trademarks anyway it chooses. After all, they paid for that right! The problem is hold outs like MTH are trying to protect the modelers from themselves. Well I'm a modeler, and my vote is stop trying to protect me! If I choose to purchase UP products and they are 5% more, so beit... [;)] A lawsuit like this will cost all the modelers money in the long run, not just the ones who prefer UP.

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As is obvious, I am on the side of MTH, Who's side are you on?

You know, I really don't think this is true at all. If you were on MTH's side, you would quit posting untrue comments about them. It's posts like this that stir everyone up, and as very few people take the time to go and read the facts, these insane rumors somehow turn into the truth. You may disagree with me all you like, but MTH hasn't even brought an HO scale product to market yet, and look at the hatred by most on this and other forums.

Sometimes I don't know why I waste my time.... Good luck with your war rally... [xx(]

Jeff

[Anonymous]

That is not UP's fault if you read the licensing agreement. http://www.uprr.com/aboutup/licensing/up_licensee_model.pdf
Union Pacific only charges 3% or .5% if the company sells 20% or more UP products. So let's figure that you loco cost an outrageous $250, UP probably makes about $3.75. That is a pittance of what any other companies are charging. Just try and "advertise" with a Nascar boxcar. Now where does the money go? Well look at this. http://www.uprr.com/newsinfo/modelrail.shtml
The opportunity to benefit from Union Pacific's increased investments in public awareness advertising and programs.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by TrainFreak409

I'm siding with MTH. Railroad companies didn't do this in the past. Why start now, and especially make a BIG stink about it?

Scott, thats very true...you would think that the railroads would like to have models produced...models=free advertising!!! [8D] BTW, stop by the teen forum, we miss ya man!!!

[Anonymous]

well when your stUPid that's what you do

[TrainFreak409]

I'm siding with MTH. Railroad companies didn't do this in the past. Why start now, and especially make a BIG stink about it?

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Actually BNSF does require licensing permission

i fiqured that -but stUPid goes overboard with it- list price for the new Athearn Sd40-2 is $10 higher for the stUP one compared to the BNSF one.

[Anonymous]

Why doesn't UP have a right to their name? I can't just go off and come out with Tiger Woods chocolate frosted Sugar Bombs, not without getting the rights to use Tiger Woods name. No one would believe that I was advertising for him, and no one would blame him for suing me.

Actually BNSF does require licensing permission and will sue you if you don't get it; the only difference is UP charges a minimal sum.

[trainfreek92]

its all about the $$$$$ money money money!!! as if locos were not high priced already and it drives up the cost of a UP loco $-5-10 while not a Up modler i feel bad to those that are[:(!]

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by dingoix

stUPid is the only one who would sue a model railroad manufaturer- at the bottom of every page on Atlas's website it says †Union Pacific Licensed Product -why the hell is stUPid so protective- i've never seen "BNSF licensed prouduct"

The UP does that (in part) to make sure that their name isnt put on a peice of crap model... which I can see...I dont like that they try to make so much money off of it though...[:(!] so yes Dingiox, I agree, this is stUPid indeed...

[Anonymous]

stUPid is the only one who would sue a model railroad manufaturer- at the bottom of every page on Atlas's website it says †Union Pacific Licensed Product -why the hell is stUPid so protective- i've never seen "BNSF licensed prouduct"

[Anonymous]

I just read the latest news blab about the UP vs MTH case.

http://www.trains.com/Content/Dynamic/Articles/000/000/006/398dlbpc.asp

While I am not fond of MTH products or their lawsuit (or is it lawsuits?) over DCC. The antics of Union Pacific can no longer be tolarated.

I want to know of all of us start a lawsuit, can we get class action status and how many of it it will take and on what grounds can we sue to win. And is there a lawyer or group of laywers who are also model railroaders crazy eneugh to take this on.

Something Needs to be done before I start considering assassanation as a viable option. (Yes I am that angry over this. )

As is obvious, I am on the side of MTH, Who's side are you on?