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Love for the C & O

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Posted by BRAKIE on Friday, December 16, 2005 10:07 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Ted E. Bear

You gotta be kidding, suppliers ignoring the C&O? What about B&O, WM, Chessie, Seaboard, ACL, CSX etc??? When I think of C&O, I lump the other roads with them.

I'll tell you the roads I wi***he suppliers would ignor:
NYC
PRR (except for the K4)
New Haven
Southern
Union Pacific
Milwaukee Road
Santa Fe
Southern Pacific
NP
BNSF
Conrail

I do like Penn Central a lot. More stuff needs to be made for them.



Ted,The roads you mention are top sellers so,fat chance of those roads being dropped.

Larry

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, December 16, 2005 9:59 PM
Tom,
Since you love steam so much, then why cant you find a big old Allegany engine, which at the time was one of the largest steam locos at the time. If I am correct, it had even more power that the UP's Big Boy. Walthers did have it, I remember it being a feature in the "Bible of Model Railroading", but that was several years ago. Since I am not into steam, dont hate me, It is a shocker, that, that loco is hard to find as well. Just another point in that they snub the C & O.
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Posted by twhite on Friday, December 16, 2005 9:45 PM
I tend to agree that the C&O, my favorite Eastern coal-hauler, has been slighted by the manufacturers. Myself, I model Rio Grande and SP steam during the 'forties, but I've got a couple of C&O locos (borrowed for the war) on my roster, and every time I run my Rivarossi Allegheney or my Bachmann Mountain, I get 'Ooh's and Ahh's from anyone watching, because they're such HANDSOME steamers. Myself, I wouldn't mind seeing some more C&O steam available that isn't expensive brass (especially their H-7 2-8-8-2's and their Pacifics and Mikes). I always thought the railroad sported some especially good-looking steam power.
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Posted by alstom on Friday, December 16, 2005 9:44 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by morrisbee40

Also T Bear, I have no problem locating stuff for the Seaborad, or the Atlantic costline, or the L & N. If you want to Model the CSX, Which by the way Stands for Chessie, Seaboard, and the X they left open, for the next major railroad they plan to acuire. Which they, and the Norlfolk Southern did a pretty good job of Conrail. So I guess they should be named the CSCX, but I am just being a smart butt there. Also why I am ont the subject of hard to find items. Try real hard to find a Greyhound bus. Wouldnt that look good, on any layout, but just try to find one.


I wrote an email to one of the employers at CSX. He wrote me back saying that CSX stands for: Chessie, Seaboard and eXtras (for the other railroad they acquired)

Also, from another railfan I heard it stood for Chessie, Seaboard, eXcellence (which sounds pretty fake)

I heard from the same guy they were originally going to name CSX the "Federal American Railroad Transportation System" You figure out the initials. LOL

A brief history: The Chessie and Seaboard merged on November 1, 1980 to form CSX. CSX 6 years later in 1986, fought in a proxie war over Conrail with NS. The war ended in mid-1997 and an agreement arose! NS would take about 55% and CSX would take 45%, or something like that. On February 9, 2002, CSX came up with their best paint scheme yet: the "Dark Future" or "YN3." That paint scheme has been added to new diesels ever since!!!

I could tell you a book-load more, but I don't have the time!!! Enjoy!!!!

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Posted by ChessieFan13 on Friday, December 16, 2005 9:39 PM


cool another one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Well Bowser is a good one to start with, so is athearn.........Been a C&O fan since I was 2 . On our pike we go altheway........by that I mean from the 40s C&O all the way up to modern day CSX..........Love that Chessie paint...........Glad to see another one of our kind uot there

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, December 16, 2005 9:35 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by morrisbee40

Also why I am ont the subject of hard to find items. Try real hard to find a Greyhound bus. Wouldnt that look good, on any layout, but just try to find one.

MTH makes them but in O gauge. Diecast Direct also has the Corgi models in O.[8D]
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, December 16, 2005 9:30 PM
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, December 16, 2005 9:26 PM
Also T Bear, I have no problem locating stuff for the Seaborad, or the Atlantic costline, or the L & N. If you want to Model the CSX, Which by the way Stands for Chessie, Seaboard, and the X they left open, for the next major railroad they plan to acuire. Which they, and the Norlfolk Southern did a pretty good job of Conrail. So I guess they should be named the CSCX, but I am just being a smart butt there. Also why I am ont the subject of hard to find items. Try real hard to find a Greyhound bus. Wouldnt that look good, on any layout, but just try to find one.
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Posted by nfmisso on Friday, December 16, 2005 9:19 PM
Well over 300 in HO:

http://www.walthers.com/exec/search?category=&scale=H&manu=&item=&keywords=C%26O&instock=Q&split=300&Submit=Search

You guys just are not looking.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, December 16, 2005 9:12 PM
I agree that the Penn Central gets ignored a lot. But go to Wathers and do a search for C & O, and see how many products you come up with. Hardly anything. When I go to Athern, most of the C & O products are sold out. If it sells that well why dont they make more. The C & O Historical Society used to have a gift shop, they dont even offer that now. Atlas, which makes some fine models, has either sold out of C & O, or discontunied them. Try to find a C & O GP 9, look real hard. I am not talking Bachman, or lifelike, those models are cheap, and make me want to throw up. Your right also, with the over production of the Union Pacfic, or the Santa Fe. I feel sorry also for someone who might want to model the Cotton Belt. Those guys should really feel snubed.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, December 16, 2005 9:11 PM
UP is everywhere. I thought when they tacked on a licensing fee the manufacturers/suppliers would back off. If anything, it seems there's been more.[:O]
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Posted by alstom on Friday, December 16, 2005 9:03 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Ted E. Bear

I'll tell you the roads I wi***he suppliers would ignor:
NYC
PRR (except for the K4)
New Haven
Southern
Union Pacific
Milwaukee Road
Santa Fe
Southern Pacific
NP
BNSF
Conrail

I do like Penn Central a lot. More stuff needs to be made for them.




Ted E. Bear- They are not so, so bad with the BNSF or SP, but the rest you named I agree with. Especially UP!!! That at least appears once on every MR Magazine you get!!!

You do seem to have a point. C & O is kind of hard to come by. But if you check out Athearn.com Link: http://athearn.com/ ,you can see their selection of C & O. They're the only major MR company that I can think of selling C & O in HO scale.

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, December 16, 2005 8:56 PM
You gotta be kidding, suppliers ignoring the C&O? What about B&O, WM, Chessie, Seaboard, ACL, CSX etc??? When I think of C&O, I lump the other roads with them.

I'll tell you the roads I wi***he suppliers would ignor:
NYC
PRR (except for the K4)
New Haven
Southern
Union Pacific
Milwaukee Road
Santa Fe
Southern Pacific
NP
BNSF
Conrail

I do like Penn Central a lot. More stuff needs to be made for them.
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Love for the C & O
Posted by Anonymous on Friday, December 16, 2005 8:46 PM
Am I wrong, but are the major hobby suppliers ignoring the C & O. If my history is correct the rail line was a major player in the 60"s. I mean after all, they did purchase the B & O. Which if you love to model the B & O, there is no problem to purchase loco's and rolling stock. I have since started to model the "Chessie System", where I can run WM, B & O, and the C & O. Even decals for the line are hard to come by. Coal was king to the C & O, but try to find a large selection of hoppers. Maybe I am looking in the wrong places. I was just wondering if someone else, who loves the C & O, can vent with me. Thanks

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