Love for the C & O

[SOU Fan]

You gotta be kidding, suppliers ignoring the C&O? What about B&O, WM, Chessie, Seaboard, ACL, CSX etc??? When I think of C&O, I lump the other roads with them.

I'll tell you the roads I wi***he suppliers would ignor:
NYC
PRR (except for the K4)
New Haven
Southern
Union Pacific
Milwaukee Road
Santa Fe
Southern Pacific
NP
BNSF
Conrail

I do like Penn Central a lot. More stuff needs to be made for them.

Why woud you ignore Southern?????? There one of themore classy railroads that existed. I'm glad they make alot of Southern stuff.

[RedGrey62]

I know you are looking for C&O specific, not Chessie per se.  But here is a link to a company that does special runs, mainly Accurail cars, they have Chessie (C&O, B&O, and CSXT) covered hoppers on the site right now.  I have some of the previous stuff and they do a great job. 

 Rick

 http://www.digitalfox.com/digitalfox/

 

 

[Ole Timer]

 I have a C&O Alleghney 2-6-6-6 K-Line/Lionel with all the bells and whistles .... railsounds trainmaster all digital that I would'nt give up for love or money . Yep ... it's O scale and is she fabulous ! C&O cars are rare to come by but am picking up a very few once in awhile . Problem is the cost is way beyond the other lines !   I'm starting to think I may have to buy other lines and repaint and remark them . Had it side by side with the MTH version and there's no comparison .... the K-Line is the best by far ! And why does'nt any manufacturer make a steel water tank or kit . All I can find is wooden ones and the steel revolution was going on in the late 20's - 30's ! If anyone knows of one except that lionel bubbler which does'nt look detailed at all please let me know . May have to scratch build one ... yikes . 

[lesterperry]

QUOTE: Originally posted by morrisbee40

keep this topic burning, I love it

You asked for it so I just had to.

[lesterperry]

QUOTE: Originally posted by morrisbee40

keep this topic burning, I love it

OK morrisbee40 This post is for you.

[tjsmrinfo]

i knew about the c&o pre chessie time just thought id add my 2 cents worth as it still relates


tom

[BRAKIE]

QUOTE: Originally posted by tjsmrinfo

ummmmmmmm seems ya'll fergot that intermountain produced chessie 2 &3 bay covered hoppers in chessie paint lettered for c&o b&o wm & csx these are distributed through pacific western rail systems.

alos my girl friend likes the chessie for the sleepin kitty as shes a cat lover, so i always try to find her a kitty cat train at train shows.


tom

Tom,Not really..There was a C&O before the Chessie System..[:D]
That is the topic road-not the Chessie(C&O).Now including the C&O under the Chessie you will find more models lettered Chessie (B&O) then Chessie(C&O).[V]

[tjsmrinfo]

ummmmmmmm seems ya'll fergot that intermountain produced chessie 2 &3 bay covered hoppers in chessie paint lettered for c&o b&o wm & csx these are distributed through pacific western rail systems.

alos my girl friend likes the chessie for the sleepin kitty as shes a cat lover, so i always try to find her a kitty cat train at train shows.


tom

[jondrd]

<I do like Penn Central a lot. More stuff needs to be made for them.>

Hang in there-Manufacturers grappling with the complexity of their road scheme. Just about get the black right and then there's problems with the white not being quite right. Get that nailed down and someone researching the road comes up with PC even used red. OK, we got the colors right,"What size should the "PC" logo be"?

Jon

[lesterperry]

Yes the last few years they have become available. I think the manufacturers have realized that there is a market for the RR thay nobody recognized as a major player for some reason. In the area where I live when people found out what I model they acted as though it was a fictitional RR or something. Now it is recognized as an actual rr.

Les

[dano99a]

QUOTE: Originally posted by morrisbee40

Am I wrong, but are the major hobby suppliers ignoring the C & O. If my history is correct the rail line was a major player in the 60"s. I mean after all, they did purchase the B & O. Which if you love to model the B & O, there is no problem to purchase loco's and rolling stock. I have since started to model the "Chessie System", where I can run WM, B & O, and the C & O. Even decals for the line are hard to come by. Coal was king to the C & O, but try to find a large selection of hoppers. Maybe I am looking in the wrong places. I was just wondering if someone else, who loves the C & O, can vent with me. Thanks

You aren't lookin, Life like makes a nice P2K GP7 & 9, GP30. Atlas makes a RS1 a GP38-2 and a U boat in there somewhere. C&O steam is also very common. The reason any of this to find is because it usually gets bought up VERY fast. There is tons of rolling stock as well.

ploaces to look:
EBAY
C&O Historical Society (www.cohs.org)

happy modeling

[BRAKIE]

Nice looking C&O lokies ya got there![:D]

[lesterperry]

I am C&O all the way. I have one B&O with C&O paint scheme just for fun. I have mostly pre 1955 but do have some GP 30,35, 38,40 & SD40. Just for a modern run sometimes.

Les

[BRAKIE]

It shocks some modelers to know none of the Chessie roads was merged during the Chessie..These roads locomotives usually stayed on home rails rather then roam the system of course there was some exceptions.The hodge podge locomotive consists would come AFTER the fomation of CSX in 1980.
The best way to model the Chessie is to understand the following.One needs to figure out if he/she is modeling the C&O under the Chessie banner,the B&O under the Chessie banner or the WM under the Chessie banner.
I model the C&O in the 60s and the C&O under the Chessie banner so the majority of my locomotives under C&O/Chessie is lettered C&O or Chessie (c&o) with some B&O units.

There is a shortage of C&O hopper cars with the peaked ends..

[lesterperry]

I was going from memory but I wasn't far off on what I said. It just aggrivates me that most people want to ignore the fact that C&O bought B&O & WM. They like to make it a merger. And I still feel that CSX is a C&O child much like Chessie was. As far as modeling goes it is easier to find Chessie / B&O or WM than Chessie C&O. I still prefer the pre B&O times or maybe the beginning Of the B&O times.

Les

[BRAKIE]

Lester,The C&O acquired control of the B&O in May 1962 during the height of the Penn-Central merger talks!! [:0] I suspect their was some unhappy faces and some cussing going on the PRR/NYC merger board.[;)] Now I suspect when the N&W was appointed trusteeship over the E-L in 1968( a job the N&W did not want) I suspect PC was doing some head bangin![:0] Of course the N&W with the NKP and Wabash lines was a bigger threat then the C&O/B&O/WM..

[lesterperry]

Brakie if you look a little further back you will see that the NYC was almost begging the C&O to purchase it. And the C&O wasn't interested. I believe it was 1958 when the C&O started to make its move to take over the B&O and by 62 or 63 it owned 80%. But the average person didn't even notice because it there were no visible changes in the B&O for a few years.

[BRAKIE]

QUOTE: Originally posted by DigitalGriffin

Regretably the B&O was floundering when the C&O picked them up. Kind of a sad end for the long history pioneer of railroading in America

When C&O took control of the B&O ,it was in the best interest of the C&O..You see PRR/NYC had their eyes on the B&O during the merger talks and more then likely would have included the cash strap B&O in the purposed Penn-Central.Also the N&W made their move by merging with the NKP and Wabash and as part of a agreement with the purposed PRR/NYC merger N&W received PRR's Sandusky Line which would give the N&W a direct link to the NKP at Bellevue so,the C&O had to make a move and that move was taking control but not merging with the B&O.

The end of the B&O would come on April 30, 1987 when it was merged into the C&O by then a subsidiary of CSX.. Then on August 31, 1987 the C&O would be merged into the CSX.

[DigitalGriffin]

Regretably the B&O was floundering when the C&O picked them up. Kind of a sad end for the long history pioneer of railroading in America

[lesterperry]

I wouldn't know where to begin on the doodle bug but I did see one at Timonium train show back in October. It was realy nice so was the price $650. I just don't have that much extra cash laying around. So far my highest price is $350 for T10 Texan. I love it.

[BRAKIE]

Any of youse guys ever scratch build or kit bash one of C&O's Butt head doddle bugs? [:p]

[waltersrails]

Well i soon will be getting a few more C&O cars to work on this week. i can't wait.

[Anonymous]

Brakie, those are the paint schemes I'm referring too, the 2 shells in the paintshop (Read: Garage) are in the scheme thats in your first and 3rd photos.

The low headlight mount is one of the projects I have lined up.

[lesterperry]

Brakie I agree there is no room for Chessie system, choke, or CSX gag. But it is interesting to me that Chessie is C&O not B&O but eveyone seems to think B&O was the dominate company. If you look into it when the C&O BOUGHT the B&O they ordered many locos with B&O on them but in the C&O style & colors. The numbers fell inline with C&O numbers for each type loco. Then the Chessie is C&O icon. Now It is Chessie first in front of Seaboard for some strange reason. The kitty still lives.
C&O is the way to go!

[BRAKIE]

There are other C&O schemes as well..

http://www.trainweb.org/chessiephotos/photos/GP9/6178c&o.jpg

http://www.trainweb.org/chessiephotos/photos/GP9/6169c&o.jpg

http://www.trainweb.org/chessiephotos/photos/GP7/5867c&o.jpg


Then there is the low headlites on some GP7s

.http://www.trainweb.org/chessiephotos/photos/GP7/5710c&o.jpg


Then there is the B&O exC&O GP9s that retain the C&O looks and numbers!

http://www.trainweb.org/chessiephotos/photos/GP9/5938b&o.jpg

Before and after..

http://www.trainweb.org/chessiephotos/photos/GP9/5958c&o.jpg

http://www.trainweb.org/chessiephotos/photos/GP9/5958b&o.jpg

Who ever said modeling the C&O was easy?[;)]

[Anonymous]

As a C&O diesel modeler I find that the one big gap is not models, its paint schemes. Theres a great number of C&O diesels out there to buy (I've got 2 RTR GP-35's under the tree!)

The later simple paint schemes like on the new Atlas geep are under represented, Its all the transistion era roman lettering (not that that's a bad thing, I love that scheme) On the GP-7's and 9's. I've been pulling for P2K to re-release the 7's and 9's in one of the later schemes. And brakies right, you cant model the C&O without lots of Geep 7's and 9's. I've got six (4 early roman, 1 sound, 2 in the later "big C&O" scheme) I'd like to build a big fleet of them as they we're the workhorses of the C&O for many years. I have 2 shells right now that are going to be painted into the Sans Sarif scheme (Like on the GP-30's and U-boats).

Speaking of the GP-30's I'm giddy that LL is re-releasing them with sound this spring.

[BRAKIE]

QUOTE: Originally posted by KenLarsen

I've always loved the C&O, it was the railroad I "grew up" with in Livonia, MI. During my pre-adolescent childhood, C&O geeps literally defined what railraoding was about to me.

Ken,A follow club member once ask me why I had so many C&O P2K GP7/9s..My reply is first one couldn't enter a C&O engine terminal and swing a dead Yak without hitting GP7 or 9 and secondly one can not properly model the C&O without having lots of GP7/9s..[:D]

[waltersrails]

just got a chessie C&O auto rack walthers gold line very nice.

[Anonymous]

I've always loved the C&O, it was the railroad I "grew up" with in Livonia, MI. During my pre-adolescent childhood, C&O geeps literally defined what railraoding was about to me.

That's why I was disappointed that Athearn's original BB GP-7 wasn't available prepainted in C&O colors. Luckily Champ Decal Co. had what I needed to make some decent-looking models though.

There is a well-stocked LHS in my former hometown of Laurel, MD, that specializes in C&O models and memorabilia. The name? Why Peach Creek Shops of course![:D]