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Nominations for the Locomotive "Hall of Shame" - Pics welcome!

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Nominations for the Locomotive "Hall of Shame" - Pics welcome!
Posted by tstage on Monday, October 3, 2005 1:51 PM
Back in the mid-'90's, some co-workders and I were standing around the office one day discussing sports. One of my co-workers brought up that two of her brothers had recently had a very lengthy discussion on who they thought was the "ugliest person in baseball". After much debate, the brothers finally concluded that the award should be equally shared by two players on the Seattle Mariners. (I'll let you make your own guesses as to who they might be.)

Anyhow, if you had to nominate one (1) locomotive for the RR Hall of Shame, which one would it be? I like and model the New York Central. But, if I were to pick one - hands down - it would have to be the 1956 NYC EMD "Aerotrain":


front end

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[xx(] Ouch! Makes me wince just to look at it.

Anyone have a worthy contender that they would like to include?

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Posted by trainboyH16-44 on Monday, October 3, 2005 1:57 PM
That kraus-maffei diesel hydraulic, it was freaky. Second are all GE widenoses
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Posted by Rotorranch on Monday, October 3, 2005 2:25 PM
I like the Aerotrain! Looks like a '58 Chevy! ( Go figure! ) [:D]

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, October 3, 2005 2:27 PM
Oh, come on now! I loved the Aerotrain's styling. To me, its one of those designs that look like they are moving 100 mph even when they are standing still.

It definitely has (had) more class than Amtrak's Acela!

As for the Kraus-Maffei diesel hydraulics, I like them too. (What can I say, I have a thing for "turret" cabs). However, the "road switcher" body version of the Kraus-Maffei has to be the ugliest locomotive ever to ply the rails of North America.



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Posted by bwftex on Monday, October 3, 2005 2:49 PM
How about the Southern Railways Q1 0-6-0. Just plain ugly .
http://www.semg.org.uk/steam/q1_01.html

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, October 3, 2005 3:07 PM
I was thinkin it looked like a Nomad from the back. I think it's cool too.

QUOTE: Originally posted by Rotorranch

I like the Aerotrain! Looks like a '58 Chevy! ( Go figure! ) [:D]

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Posted by tstage on Monday, October 3, 2005 3:08 PM
Bruce,

Hmm. Looks like a Thomas the Train reject...

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Posted by andrechapelon on Monday, October 3, 2005 3:14 PM
Here's a candidate for ugly: http://www.catskillarchive.com/rrextra/plate091.Html

Then there's the Winans "Mud Diggers" of the 1840's: http://tinyurl.com/c8h63

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Posted by Darth Santa Fe on Monday, October 3, 2005 3:41 PM
Santa Fe Warbonnet F7As. I don't see how Anyone can like those ugly things.[xx(]

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Posted by TrainFreak409 on Monday, October 3, 2005 3:45 PM
Jeesh, I can't say that I think any locomotive should deserve to be in the "Hall of Shame." I like the unusual, odd, bizarre, and otherwise rejected locomotives.[:D][8D][:p][;)] Just like the AeroTrain, and the Q1 switcher listed above.[8D]

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Posted by Darth Santa Fe on Monday, October 3, 2005 3:55 PM
I was just joking about the Warbonnet F7s. Those are some of the best looking diesels ever![:D]

Now being serious, I don't like European steamers.(like the German ones Marklin makes) Something about the design on those along with the red and black paint just make me think, "that's ugly".

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Posted by Tracklayer on Monday, October 3, 2005 3:56 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Darth Santa Fe

Santa Fe Warbonnet F7As. I don't see how Anyone can like those ugly things.[xx(]


Hey!... What's a matter for you ?. Why you no like em SF Warbonnet ?.

Seriously. I try not to look at locos that way, and appreciate all trains for what they are. What might be gastly and ugly to one guy might be beautiful to the next. So, out of respect to trains and train lovers everywhere, I'll leave it at that.

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Posted by Tracklayer on Monday, October 3, 2005 4:00 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Darth Santa Fe

I was just joking about the Warbonnet F7s. Those are some of the best looking diesels ever![:D]

Now being serious, I don't like European steamers.(like the German ones Marklin makes) Something about the design on those along with the red and black paint just make me think, "that's ugly".


Okay, I'll make an acception and agree with you there. Some of those trains from across the big pond are in fact "yuck!"...

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Posted by Darth Santa Fe on Monday, October 3, 2005 4:00 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Tracklayer

QUOTE: Originally posted by Darth Santa Fe

Santa Fe Warbonnet F7As. I don't see how Anyone can like those ugly things.[xx(]


Hey!... What's a matter for you ?. Why you no like em SF Warbonnet ?.

QUOTE: Originally posted by, me.

I was just joking about the Warbonnet F7s. Those are some of the best looking diesels ever!

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Posted by ndbprr on Monday, October 3, 2005 4:21 PM
I can undesratnd why you would think the Aerotrain was ugly. It's not the train. That big Keystone is clouding you judgement but once you come to the light (PRR) you will see it in all its beauty!
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Posted by TrainFreak409 on Monday, October 3, 2005 4:26 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by ndbprr

I can undesratnd why you would think the Aerotrain was ugly. It's not the train. That big Keystone is clouding you judgement but once you come to the light (PRR) you will see it in all its beauty!


HEY![V]

How can you say that?!?![:0]

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Posted by espeefoamer on Monday, October 3, 2005 4:28 PM
Any steam engine with a Coffin feedwater heater.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, October 3, 2005 4:49 PM
I'd have to say turbines! [:D]

Just kidding, I had to aggrivate 8500HPGASTURBINE and Scott a little bit. My vote would probably go toward the DD40's. Why is it UP and SP always had the rarities?
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, October 3, 2005 4:59 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by uspscsx

I'd have to say turbines! [:D]

Just kidding, I had to aggrivate 8500HPGASTURBINE and Scott a little bit. My vote would probably go toward the DD40's. Why is it UP and SP always had the rarities?

Scratch that...



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Posted by tstage on Monday, October 3, 2005 5:32 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by ndbprr

I can undesratnd why you would think the Aerotrain was ugly. It's not the train. That big Keystone is clouding you judgement but once you come to the light (PRR) you will see it in all its beauty!

On the contrary. The top pic is actually NYC (what I model) and the bottom, PRR. The design reminds me of a ride you might find at a cheap carnival somewhere. If the nose were more streamlined, I "might" warm up to it...

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Posted by joeyegarner on Monday, October 3, 2005 6:24 PM
I guess it;s the Train Master for me, that thing makes me hurt all over every time I see one.
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Posted by tatans on Monday, October 3, 2005 6:40 PM
How about # 28 Union Pacific- Alco-GE Gas Turbine for ugly ! ! (well, you put MY favourite diesel U-50 in) it's called retaliation, har har har. By the way, some of those early streamliners were pretty gross.
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Posted by MisterBeasley on Monday, October 3, 2005 6:43 PM
I nominate "The Automobile," for its un-meritorius service towards the American Railroads, and "The Airplane" for killing off long-distance passenger service.

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, October 3, 2005 7:04 PM
I really don't like the FA-1,2, ect, Only like a few alco's, but since everyone is putting their favorite engine up on the hall of shame, mine is the AC4400!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![^][^][^][^]
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Posted by TrainFreak409 on Monday, October 3, 2005 7:07 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by uspscsx

I'd have to say turbines! [:D]

Just kidding, I had to aggrivate 8500HPGASTURBINE and Scott a little bit. My vote would probably go toward the DD40's. Why is it UP and SP always had the rarities?


Umm, Matt, the DD40 was never made. Only the DD35, DD35A, and the DD40AX.

See, I can be a smart-aleck too.[(-D]

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Posted by selector on Monday, October 3, 2005 7:37 PM
http://www.railmodel.com/bulletins/div/SAR_NG_G16.htm

Nuff said.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, October 3, 2005 7:38 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by TrainFreak409

QUOTE: Originally posted by uspscsx

I'd have to say turbines! [:D]

Just kidding, I had to aggrivate 8500HPGASTURBINE and Scott a little bit. My vote would probably go toward the DD40's. Why is it UP and SP always had the rarities?


Umm, Matt, the DD40 was never made. Only the DD35, DD35A, and the DD40AX.

See, I can be a smart-aleck too.[(-D]

[swg] I couldn't remember what the DD40 was specifically called, so I just put DD40, hoping no one would catch it. (Stealth mode...)
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Posted by tstage on Monday, October 3, 2005 7:44 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by selector

http://www.railmodel.com/bulletins/div/SAR_NG_G16.htm

Nuff said.

Whoa, Crandell! I think the Aerotrain may only win Miss Congeniality next to that one. Yow!

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Posted by Darth Santa Fe on Monday, October 3, 2005 7:53 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by selector

http://www.railmodel.com/bulletins/div/SAR_NG_G16.htm

Nuff said.


YIKES!! That thing's scary!! Did they use it as a Halloween thing to scare the daylights out of us Model Railroaders!?[:0][:0][:0]

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Southern Pacifics U50. These things were ugly. You have to like the brute force they put out though. I have one by OMI


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Posted by nbrodar on Monday, October 3, 2005 8:44 PM
I'm looking to a picture....but Penn Central rebuilt an RS3 with a SW1500 type cab and no short hood. It was butt ugly.

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