NO SMOKING IN THE TRAIN ROOM !...

[Tracklayer]

I'm really ticked off right now to say the least... My heavy smoking cousin walked into my train room puffing on one of his nasty little mini cigars at around 3:30pm this evening. It's now a little after 10:00pm and I can still smell the nasty stuff after six and a half hours... There are signs plainly posted outside of the door and on the wall of my train room that read NO SMOKING!. The guy can't say he can't read because he owns his own very successful business and is a computer wizard. He thought because he's a relative that he could just totally disregard the signs and do as he pleased. I tried burning a candle and spraying air freshener, but it didn't do a bit of good and still smells as if it happened only five minutes ago.
I admit, I use to smoke, but I had more respect for other people and their homes. ([:(!])

Tracklayer

[claycts]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Tracklayer

I'm really ticked off right now to say the least... My heavy smoking cousin walked into my train room puffing on one of his nasty little mini cigars at around 3:30pm this evening. It's now a little after 10:00pm and I can still smell the nasty stuff after six and a half hours... There are signs plainly posted outside of the door and on the wall of my train room that read NO SMOKING!. The guy can't say he can't read because he owns his own very successful business and is a computer wizard. He thought because he's a relative that he could just totally disregard the signs and do as he pleased. I tried burning a candle and spraying air freshener, but it didn't do a bit of good and still smells as if it happened only five minutes ago.
I admit, I use to smoke, but I had more respect for other people and their homes. ([:(!])

Tracklayer

Can you sat FABREEZE or the ION air system. Ex smoker here and I smell it 10 miles away. I feel you pain, a stupid inconsiderate ^%$*^&%^@# riding in my Rolls lit a CHEAP cigar, never asked, just thought we was kool smoking a cigar in a Rolls. He was COOL alright, my wige turned around and dumped a bottle of water on him and his cigar!
I keep a SUPER SOAKER in the shop, you light up, get a towel, you will need it!

[Curmudgeon]

Hmmm.
I wonder, you don't use that smelly smoke in your locos, do you?

That said, the CCRy is made for folks to smoke-em-if-you-got-em.
Stogies (big and small), pipes.
You can do that when you're outdoors.
TOC

[Tracklayer]

QUOTE: Originally posted by claycts

QUOTE: Originally posted by Tracklayer

I'm really ticked off right now to say the least... My heavy smoking cousin walked into my train room puffing on one of his nasty little mini cigars at around 3:30pm this evening. It's now a little after 10:00pm and I can still smell the nasty stuff after six and a half hours... There are signs plainly posted outside of the door and on the wall of my train room that read NO SMOKING!. The guy can't say he can't read because he owns his own very successful business and is a computer wizard. He thought because he's a relative that he could just totally disregard the signs and do as he pleased. I tried burning a candle and spraying air freshener, but it didn't do a bit of good and still smells as if it happened only five minutes ago.
I admit, I use to smoke, but I had more respect for other people and their homes. ([:(!])

Tracklayer

Can you sat FABREEZE or the ION air system. Ex smoker here and I smell it 10 miles away. I feel you pain, a stupid inconsiderate ^%$*^&%^@# riding in my Rolls lit a CHEAP cigar, never asked, just thought we was kool smoking a cigar in a Rolls. He was COOL alright, my wige turned around and dumped a bottle of water on him and his cigar!
I keep a SUPER SOAKER in the shop, you light up, get a towel, you will need it!

Thank you for your input (and good idea [}:)]) in this matter claycts. I don't mean to be down on smokers, but if they want to smoke, they should be more respectful of others and do so out doors... Once upon a time, people smoked everywhere except in church or the court room, but those days are no more, and it's no longer socially acceptable - not around me at least. I have asthma really bad, and this guy knows it, but he's going to do what ever he wants where ever he goes or he's not going to go there, or so he says. Well, that's just fine with me... I'd rather him not come around anymore than have him pollute my environment with his very unhealthy addiction!.

Tracklayer

[exPalaceDog]

The Old Dog is a smoker, but he finds this conduct inexcusable. Forget the smell. What about the impact on the scenery and rolling stock. People go to great lengths to get the coloring just right. Cigarette smoke can alter the colors. While the Old Dog is no fan of John Allen, he got one thing right, smoking belongs in the living room, with the host's premission, not the layout room.

Have fun

The Dog would suggest that you simply lose your cousin's address and forget to invite him back.

[Seamonster]

I would have pushed his sorry butt out the door until he got rid of the stogie, cousin or no cousin. I'm a smoker but I've got a heckofa lot more respect for non-smokers than that!

[Tracklayer]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Curmudgeon

Hmmm.
I wonder, you don't use that smelly smoke in your locos, do you?

That said, the CCRy is made for folks to smoke-em-if-you-got-em.
Stogies (big and small), pipes.
You can do that when you're outdoors.
TOC

No Curmudgeon, I'm an N scaler, and none of my locos use smoke fluids. Even so, I have asthma really bad, and have to be extremely careful about what I'm exposed to.

Tracklayer

[Tracklayer]

QUOTE: Originally posted by exPalaceDog

The Old Dog is a smoker, but he finds this conduct inexcusable. Forget the smell. What about the impact on the scenery and rolling stock. People go to great lengths to get the coloring just right. Cigarette smoke can alter the colors. While the Old Dog is no fan of John Allen, he got one thing right, smoking belongs in the living room, with the host's premission, not the layout room.

Have fun

The Dog would suggest that you simply lose your cousin's address and forget to invite him back.

Thank you for your understanding exPalaceDog. I wish I could lose his address, but the problem is he won't lose mine...

Tracklayer

[JohnT14808]

I feel for you, tracklayer. Fortunately, up here in Washington state smoking indoors has taken a serious hit...bars and taverns in certain counties, restaurants have largely gone non-smoking, or have a VERY small smoking section out back somewhere. In county and state offices, no smoking permitted.
So, most of the visitors to our clubhouse know not to light up ( we are in a County building). Sorry you had the issue even come up. I'm an ex-smoker and I can't stand the smell any more. I don't know how I did that to myself for so many years.....[banghead]

[Tracklayer]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Seamonster

I would have pushed his sorry butt out the door until he got rid of the stogie, cousin or no cousin. I'm a smoker but I've got a heckofa lot more respect for non-smokers than that!

Hey Mr. Seamonster. How are you tonight ?.

Like I said earlier. I smoked a pack and a half a day for 24 years, but about five years ago I came down with really bad asthma. My doctor told me that I had no choice but to quit, so, I got on the patch and have been smoke free ever since.
I'm not going to lie, I don't like being around smokers, but it really makes it tough when it's a family member...
A few years ago, some friends of mine introduced me to a girl that was really attractive and had it all (if you know what I mean), but five minutes after we met, she lit up a cigarette, and that was the end of my interest in her. We never went out again.

Tracklayer

[Anonymous]

This is a matter of good manners. Your cousin will do what he wants where ever he wants, or he won't go there? Tell him that he is not welcome in your house, much less your train room with his cigars. His bad manners "require" an equal amount of Bad Manners to counter.
Will

[rolleiman]

QUOTE: Originally posted by claycts

QUOTE: Originally posted by Tracklayer

I'm really ticked off right now to say the least... My heavy smoking cousin walked into my train room puffing on one of his nasty little mini cigars at around 3:30pm this evening. It's now a little after 10:00pm and I can still smell the nasty stuff after six and a half hours... There are signs plainly posted outside of the door and on the wall of my train room that read NO SMOKING!. The guy can't say he can't read because he owns his own very successful business and is a computer wizard. He thought because he's a relative that he could just totally disregard the signs and do as he pleased. I tried burning a candle and spraying air freshener, but it didn't do a bit of good and still smells as if it happened only five minutes ago.
I admit, I use to smoke, but I had more respect for other people and their homes. ([:(!])

Tracklayer

I keep a SUPER SOAKER in the shop, you light up, get a towel, you will need it!

Just make sure he's not standing in front of your most expensive tools when you do it.. Can you say DUCK!! Woops... Why did you spray your tools down?? They didn't look dirty...

[rolleiman]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Tracklayer

I'm really ticked off right now to say the least... My heavy smoking cousin walked into my train room puffing on one of his nasty little mini cigars at around 3:30pm this evening. It's now a little after 10:00pm and I can still smell the nasty stuff after six and a half hours... There are signs plainly posted outside of the door and on the wall of my train room that read NO SMOKING!. The guy can't say he can't read because he owns his own very successful business and is a computer wizard. He thought because he's a relative that he could just totally disregard the signs and do as he pleased. I tried burning a candle and spraying air freshener, but it didn't do a bit of good and still smells as if it happened only five minutes ago.
I admit, I use to smoke, but I had more respect for other people and their homes. ([:(!])

Tracklayer

Respect or not, Grow some and throw the SOB out of your house. I can't stand when, out of politeness or for whatever reason, people say nothing when something bugs them and then complain about it later.

Jeff

[Curmudgeon]

Courtroom?
Nope.
Clarence Darrow.
Read up on his "technique" with a wire in his stogies.......

[jwar]

I'm a smoooooker and I totaly agree with Overduff.

I dont smoke in your or my house, my wifes car, anywhere I visit or even upwind of people.

Next time he comes over plan in advance on how to deal with him. If he Lights up again show him somthing of interest outside, then get into how you personally feel, Just because in his world he does what he wants, he is a guest in yours, if he doesnt catch on respecting your values,, then tell him after hes done smooking OUTSIDE, hes welcome to return. I try to use tact, sometimes i revert to tactics, then sometimes I get a bit up front and personal concerning lack of respect for my Home, My wife and Family.

I have a Son thats about to be paroled from prison, that does not have my values, he will return as long as he works diligently at his problems and gives it an honest effort, i will be there 24/7 for his support to get on track, however if he starts back in his old ways, there is no doubt in his mind or my mind, he will have to move quickley to keep the door from slamming on his axx.

Yep.....Mr. Tracklayer...we have to have a tactfull thoughtout plan for these people...wishing you success....take care...John

[Anonymous]

OK, I'm probably going to get blasted for this, but here goes...

I am so sick and tired of everyone being so apalled with smokers... Yes, I smoke cigarettes and a rare cigar. I smoke in my home, car, train room, etc. I realize my home smells like smoke, and so do I. But do I complain about being exposed to toxic exhaust fumes from autos, trucks, buses, and yes, sadly, trains? NO. These are only the most noticeable toxins we all breathe in every day. What about factories and power plants?

Now, I respect those that prefer I don't smoke in their homes, businesses, etc. But it seems where ever I turn, there are the anti-smokers hovering everywhere. (The worst part is, I have know a few rabid anti smokers who regularly smoked pot and thought that was just fine. Didn't they think they smelled like pot smoke?)

I think it is possible we may face another era of prohibition, like the country did with alcohol in the last century. I think it created more alcoholics than it cured.

I know smoking is bad for my health, but so is most of the processed food we are exposed to on a daily basis.

My father died last week of lung cancer, at 82 and I asked him if he regretted his years of smoking just before he died. He said "Why tiptoe thru life to get to death safely?"

Anyhow, I respect those who prefer I not smoke in their presence, I wish I could say the reverse was true!

Go ahead... Blast away...

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by exPalaceDog

While the Old Dog is no fan of John Allen

This requires an explination.

[twhite]

Well, no blast from this end. I'm also a smoker, but I do my smoking outside. However, even that doesn't seem to stop the PC patrol from going out of their way to cross the street and accost me as if I've just committed an overt act of eco-Terrorism.

But I am totally in accord with you, Tracklayer--I think your cousin's behavior was boorish and insensitive and quite in keeping with the lack of manners of a great many people this day and age who have found success but lost common courtesy in the process. I don't smoke in my house, nor do I smoke in the train room (garage) even when the door's raised. I don't like the fact that tobacco smoke seems to have a way of settling on my rails and making me run my cleaning train more often than I should. And the fact that you are asthmatic CERTAINLY should have sunk into your cousin's brain by now, one would think.

Oh, and my answer to the PC patrol, when they accost me outside and begin their reviling? "I'll stop smoking when you stop farting."
Either that, or trade in their SUV's on something a little less polluting.
Tom [}:)][}:)]

[rolleiman]

QUOTE: Originally posted by up_santafe

OK, I'm probably going to get blasted for this, but here goes...

I am so sick and tired of everyone being so apalled with smokers... Yes, I smoke cigarettes and a rare cigar. I smoke in my home, car, train room, etc. I realize my home smells like smoke, and so do I. But do I complain about being exposed to toxic exhaust fumes from autos, trucks, buses, and yes, sadly, trains? NO. These are only the most noticeable toxins we all breathe in every day. What about factories and power plants?

Now, I respect those that prefer I don't smoke in their homes, businesses, etc. But it seems where ever I turn, there are the anti-smokers hovering everywhere. (The worst part is, I have know a few rabid anti smokers who regularly smoked pot and thought that was just fine. Didn't they think they smelled like pot smoke?)

These are usually the 'enlightened' ones...

QUOTE:
I think it is possible we may face another era of prohibition, like the country did with alcohol in the last century. I think it created more alcoholics than it cured.

It'll NEVER happen.. People say never say never, I'M SAYING NEVER!! Do you have any idea how much Tax revenue is collected on cigarettes?? Of course you do, you pay it.

QUOTE:
Go ahead... Blast away...

Condolances on your father btw.. Sounds like he lived on his terms.. Good for him!!!

Jeff

[siberianmo]

[2c] My thoughts on the subject:

Cousin or not, this guy needs a remedial course in good manners, and apparently he hasn't got 'em. He shouldn't have been given the okay to enter your home, much less your trainroom with a lit stogie stuck in his face.

Wouldn't have happened in my house.

[Tracklayer]

Hey guys. Thanks for your input on this matter, but I wasn't bashing smokers in general, just one in particular - my cousin Robert... If you enjoy smoking and have no fear of the health risks that go with it, go for it. As for those that desire to quit and live a longer, healthier life, you have my greatest respect and support. I personally have to live in a smoke free environment due to my health problems. I can't even spray paint anymore without holding my breath because all it would take is one lung full of fumes and off to the emergency room we go...

Tracklayer

[trolleyboy]

Definatly not a cool move on your cousins part.Health worries for yourself aside.I wouldn't want a smoker in my train room either too many flamable things. I have a friend who is an excellant painter scratch builder etc. Unfortunatly he smokes like a chimmeny. One day while puffing and spraying some floquil he got a bit too close to the fumes and poof little flash and he was eyebrowless! He still does it some people just don;t learn. My [2c] Rob

[Tracklayer]

QUOTE: Originally posted by rolleiman

Respect or not, Grow some and throw the SOB out of your house. I can't stand when, out of politeness or for whatever reason, people say nothing when something bugs them and then complain about it later.

Jeff

Hello rolleiman, and thanks for your "blunt" suggestion, but it's a matter of family politics.
The smoke smell will eventually clear up and I'll get over it, and/but, I would prefer to vent my anger off among people I have a common interest with that understand where I'm coming from rather than make an enemy out of my relative. ([;)])

Regards,

Tracklayer

[pedromorgan]

i dont think throwing him out would have been very polite but i think you could have politly asked him not to smoke. i think most smokier are very understanding people.

i dont mind people smoking as long as i dont have to smoke too. i have it when i am in a car and someone os smoking. they always sit there with the window slightly open thinking it draws the smoke out. what it actually does is cover the entire back seat with ash! at concerts. why do i always get sat next to the puffers??

i always look at smokers this way: there people are daft enough to spend £5 on a packet of leaves that have been rolled up and gift wrapped in paper. then then proceed to set fire to them!!! they spend $5 on something and then set fire to it!!!!! and people think i am crazy just because i have long hair!!!

well thats my 2p worth.

peter

[rolleiman]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Tracklayer

QUOTE: Originally posted by rolleiman

Respect or not, Grow some and throw the SOB out of your house. I can't stand when, out of politeness or for whatever reason, people say nothing when something bugs them and then complain about it later.

Jeff

Hello rolleiman, and thanks for your "blunt" suggestion, but it's a matter of family politics.
The smoke smell will eventually clear up and I'll get over it, and/but, I would prefer to vent my anger off among people I have a common interest with that understand where I'm coming from rather than make an enemy out of my relative. ([;)])

Regards,

Tracklayer

I haven't responded to this or any other post to get into a shouting match so don't take it that way.. I don't really have a problem with some venting, regardless of how my post came across.

Yes, I can sometimes be very blunt. I'm not politically correct, never have been, never will be. I don't believe in raising my blood pressure by getting upset at things, especially things I have control over. Those are facts I'm very proud of but No disrespect to you was intended. It's your house, your layout, and your family so do what you need to do. From your description though, this guy obviously doesn't respect you in your own home. I would guess that you've made your feelings and health concerns known. If you haven't maybe you should. Sometimes the railroad tie up along side the skull is the only way to get through to people.. Family politics or not, I would NOT let anyone dictate the terms of Their behaviour in MY house. They don't like it they can stay the [censored] out until they learn to respect the rules of my home. It isn't asking for much.

For the record, Yes I smoke. I hate the smell of it. I can't stand what it does to my house, car, clothes, wallet, not to mention my person. Even my dog smells like a cigarette butt.. I'm sorry I ever even started. No, I don't smoke in the train room or my bedrooms. No, I wouldn't light up in your home, I wouldn't even presume to ask. I quit at least once a week, someday I'll get there.......one way or another...

This all has nothing to do with social acceptance of smoking, like the guy above who described the pot smoker, you would be suprised at how many "social smokers" there are.. These are the people who don't smoke as 'habit' and probably say they feel the same way about it that you do. However, they get in their cars, drive to bars, get schnokered while emptying a pack of smokes, and then stagger back out to their cars and drive home. All to kneel and put their face in a porcelin object that was NEVER meant for their face, do it all again next weekend, and call it fun. If THAT behaviour is 'socially acceptable' they can keep it. [xx(]

By the way... I see you are in the Houston area.. I do hope you fared the weather okay without too much damage. I hate to think of how many train layouts now have real water in the riverbeds..

Regards,

Jeff

[Anonymous]

NO ONE smokes in our house, relative or not! A brother in law and his wife used to visit for the weekend, both were smokers. Both did their smoking on our back deck, whatever the weather. There was no other way. Period.

Bob Boudreau

[Pruitt]

If the inconsiderate gentleman lit up in the midst of non-smoking signs, he deserves to have his flame uncerimoniusly doused!

Are family politics one way? HE can be an inconsiderate buffoon, and you can't ask him to follow the rules of your own house while in your own house?

I feel for you, man.

[TomDiehl]

QUOTE: Originally posted by up_santafe

OK, I'm probably going to get blasted for this, but here goes...

I am so sick and tired of everyone being so apalled with smokers... Yes, I smoke cigarettes and a rare cigar. I smoke in my home, car, train room, etc. I realize my home smells like smoke, and so do I. But do I complain about being exposed to toxic exhaust fumes from autos, trucks, buses, and yes, sadly, trains? NO. These are only the most noticeable toxins we all breathe in every day. What about factories and power plants?

Now, I respect those that prefer I don't smoke in their homes, businesses, etc. But it seems where ever I turn, there are the anti-smokers hovering everywhere. (The worst part is, I have know a few rabid anti smokers who regularly smoked pot and thought that was just fine. Didn't they think they smelled like pot smoke?)

I think it is possible we may face another era of prohibition, like the country did with alcohol in the last century. I think it created more alcoholics than it cured.

I know smoking is bad for my health, but so is most of the processed food we are exposed to on a daily basis.

My father died last week of lung cancer, at 82 and I asked him if he regretted his years of smoking just before he died. He said "Why tiptoe thru life to get to death safely?"

Anyhow, I respect those who prefer I not smoke in their presence, I wish I could say the reverse was true!

Go ahead... Blast away...

Yes, you will get blasted for this.

The stupid idea that you have the right to light up anywhere you please just shows you to be a major level of inconsiderate jerk. I'm tired of hearing about "smoker's rights." How does that override his right to breathe? The man has asthma. Smoking around him is sure to trigger an attack because you can't control your own bad habits. Nobody pinned you down and forced you to start smoking and got you addicted. That was your own choice.

If it was me, I'd tell him "put it out or get out," relative or not.

[Leon Silverman]

People have a tendency to ignore "No Smoking" signs. Instead, you should post a warning sign that "Cigar or cigaratte smoke will set-off fire sprinklers. Enter at own risk." With this sign, you can use a water spray gun to extinguish his smelly cigar. You should have to spray him only once. He will never smoke anything in you train room ever again. With luck, he may never even speak to you again.

[cheese3]

tracklayer, my parents smoke and sadly my train room has no door so most of it was going in, I resorted to nailing a heavy blanket over the door way, I opened up the windows for a few days and everything was better...almost. The blanket doesn't keep all the smoke out so I think some time soon I am going to invest in a good door, and a nice big no smoking sign.

And as A sign I saw in a firefighter merchindise catologe said...if i see smoke coming from you I will assume your on fire and take proper precautions...and then at the bottom there was a drawing of a firefighter spraying a guy with water.