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QUOTE: Originally posted by AntonioFP45 Why in the world would this make him a sellout?! (Sorry, but I've always hated that term!) If Eric is imitating the real world (which seems to be the case) then he's doing what most of the Class 1s are doing.........leaning heavily towards GE! Railroads look at locomotives as investment capital. Reliability, duty availabilty, cost-to-operate ratios, maintenance cycle costs, component life expectency, reliability, etc. EMD is viewed as having the higher quality, however, GE's seem to be more readily available, parts are much easier to obtain, and of course the units are cheaper. EMD being sold by GM after being part of it for 80 years sure didn't do much for its image either. Eric may be thinking along these lines, just like the prototype railroads. Years back, Amtrak's diesel fleet was over 90% EMD. The F40PH was king. EMD was receiving accolades for the reliability of that tough warhorse. Well............it's no longer the case is it?? That warhorse that we grew accustomed to has been put out to pasture and those GE Boxcab "P somethings" now command the varnish. In essence, that's business. Eric's got the idea. [:D][;)]
QUOTE: Originally posted by trainboyH16-44 Maybe we are all so used to EMD, and GE is intruding? Or maybe we think of GE as replacing our favorite locomotives? (Dash8-40CMs replaced M630s on BC Rail) I don't like the sound, compared to EMD. trainboy
Chuck
Grand River & Monongah Railroad and subsidiary Monongah Railway
QUOTE: Originally posted by trainboyH16-44 I guess that you are all right. I apologise for criticizing. I am just very ani-GE. I think that the AC4400 and Dash 8 and 9 are some of the ugliest locomotives around. my freelance railroad is still all EMD, with another 100 SD70ACe on order (With modofied cabs to make 'em less ugly) Trainboy
Larry
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QUOTE: Originally posted by grande man I like them all and don't understand the GE hatred. Would someone please explain it to me.
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QUOTE: Originally posted by bwilcox Good grief. This is a hobby. Some of you folks are taking this wayyyyyy too seriously.
QUOTE: Originally posted by trainboyH16-44 I have always admired Eric Brooman's Utah Belt railway, with it's all EMD stronghold. But now he's bought GE AC4400CWs, and I consider him a bit of a sell-out. Granted, it's his free-lance railroad, and he can do what he wants with it, but what do you guys think about it? trainboy Again-No offence to Eric
QUOTE: Originally posted by On30Shay If he gets a wild hair and wants to motorize a bunch of turds and run them, he can do that, too.
QUOTE: Originally posted by davekelly Have I hit all the hot threads yet?
QUOTE: Originally posted by grande man QUOTE: Originally posted by On30Shay If he gets a wild hair and wants to motorize a bunch of turds and run them, he can do that, too. I wonder if Digitrax will do a sound decoder...[:D]
Tom
QUOTE: Originally posted by tommyr If they do the sound would probably be crappy[xx(]
Originally posted by On30Shay He can run what he want's on his stuff. If he gets a wild hair and wants to motorize a bunch of turds and run them, he can do that, too. I wonder what couplers that would take?? Kadee #2's?? Cambridge Springs- Halfway from New York to Chicago on the Erie Lackawanna! Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 12, 2005 1:53 PM Ok this was good for a laugh. James Reply Edit nibbler Member sinceApril 2005 11 posts Posted by nibbler on Monday, September 12, 2005 2:19 PM Well just have to horn in here. Publication of Eric Brooman's layout was the inspiration for me to finaly design my own. While I cannot compare my work to Mr. Brooman's I feel I'm doing a decent job with certain simularities to his, namely the six staging loops. I've always admired his craftsmanship in building locomotives for his road, and I feel sometimes a change is necessary to keep interest at a high level. So updating to GE models is a step that will contribute to the interest. I can only hope that when he tires of the GE's he will do as I did and kitbash some ALCO's out of them. Now that's a much better idea than running Oh! Whatever! Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 12, 2005 2:35 PM Antonio & Dave (and anyone else who has properly deemed me as grumpy....), You both make good points. I suppose there's no harm to the "debate" as long as it doesn't get personal and ugly...and I've seen that happen over lesser issues. And, yes, Eric is taking his railroad seriously, to a point. He's devised a well though-out concept and is sticking to it.....but I haven't seen him raise an eyebrow because I switch my intermodal yard with a B&M S1. I suppose I'm getting just as serious even replying to all this. But in these days of devastation on the Gulf coast, government corruption and incompetance, the challenges of being the husband and father my family deserves and just keeping my house and keyboard rig functioning, Eric's choice of motive power seems a silly thing to debate. [soapbox] Besides, SD70ACe's are ugly as sin......[;)] Reply Edit ProtoWeathering Member sinceMarch 2011 544 posts Posted by ProtoWeathering on Monday, September 12, 2005 2:42 PM QUOTE: I wonder if Digitrax will do a sound decoder... I heard they tried, and it really stunk... Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 12, 2005 2:48 PM Back on topic, since he went with GE do you think he is using the GE repair program or doing the repairs in-house, isn't that another reason many RR's have gone to GE? On my RR we buy used EMD's but buy new GE's since they are the better runners, though we did get stuck with those monster SD80MAC's that NS got on the Conrail buy [banghead], talk about fuel hogs and keeping them running, my shop people staged a 1 day walkout on that deal. I now know better. Reply Edit brothaslide Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Southern California 743 posts Posted by brothaslide on Monday, September 12, 2005 2:50 PM I don't know what Mr. Brooman would be selling out to? When you "sell out", you are compromising your values and convictions. Perhaps Mr. Brooman thought the GE units looked really cool and decided to model them. Reply 123 Subscriber & Member Login Login, or register today to interact in our online community, comment on articles, receive our newsletter, manage your account online and more! Login Register Users Online There are no community member online Search the Community ADVERTISEMENT ADVERTISEMENT ADVERTISEMENT Model Railroader Newsletter See all Sign up for our FREE e-newsletter and get model railroad news in your inbox! Sign up
I wonder what couplers that would take?? Kadee #2's?? Cambridge Springs- Halfway from New York to Chicago on the Erie Lackawanna! Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 12, 2005 1:53 PM Ok this was good for a laugh. James Reply Edit nibbler Member sinceApril 2005 11 posts Posted by nibbler on Monday, September 12, 2005 2:19 PM Well just have to horn in here. Publication of Eric Brooman's layout was the inspiration for me to finaly design my own. While I cannot compare my work to Mr. Brooman's I feel I'm doing a decent job with certain simularities to his, namely the six staging loops. I've always admired his craftsmanship in building locomotives for his road, and I feel sometimes a change is necessary to keep interest at a high level. So updating to GE models is a step that will contribute to the interest. I can only hope that when he tires of the GE's he will do as I did and kitbash some ALCO's out of them. Now that's a much better idea than running Oh! Whatever! Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 12, 2005 2:35 PM Antonio & Dave (and anyone else who has properly deemed me as grumpy....), You both make good points. I suppose there's no harm to the "debate" as long as it doesn't get personal and ugly...and I've seen that happen over lesser issues. And, yes, Eric is taking his railroad seriously, to a point. He's devised a well though-out concept and is sticking to it.....but I haven't seen him raise an eyebrow because I switch my intermodal yard with a B&M S1. I suppose I'm getting just as serious even replying to all this. But in these days of devastation on the Gulf coast, government corruption and incompetance, the challenges of being the husband and father my family deserves and just keeping my house and keyboard rig functioning, Eric's choice of motive power seems a silly thing to debate. [soapbox] Besides, SD70ACe's are ugly as sin......[;)] Reply Edit ProtoWeathering Member sinceMarch 2011 544 posts Posted by ProtoWeathering on Monday, September 12, 2005 2:42 PM QUOTE: I wonder if Digitrax will do a sound decoder... I heard they tried, and it really stunk... Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 12, 2005 2:48 PM Back on topic, since he went with GE do you think he is using the GE repair program or doing the repairs in-house, isn't that another reason many RR's have gone to GE? On my RR we buy used EMD's but buy new GE's since they are the better runners, though we did get stuck with those monster SD80MAC's that NS got on the Conrail buy [banghead], talk about fuel hogs and keeping them running, my shop people staged a 1 day walkout on that deal. I now know better. Reply Edit brothaslide Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Southern California 743 posts Posted by brothaslide on Monday, September 12, 2005 2:50 PM I don't know what Mr. Brooman would be selling out to? When you "sell out", you are compromising your values and convictions. Perhaps Mr. Brooman thought the GE units looked really cool and decided to model them. Reply 123 Subscriber & Member Login Login, or register today to interact in our online community, comment on articles, receive our newsletter, manage your account online and more! Login Register Users Online There are no community member online Search the Community ADVERTISEMENT ADVERTISEMENT ADVERTISEMENT Model Railroader Newsletter See all Sign up for our FREE e-newsletter and get model railroad news in your inbox! Sign up
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