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Holy Cow, I am not a Troll!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (What is Dennis B Smoking?)

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Posted by ARTHILL on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 2:04 PM
What is this all about?
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Posted by jfugate on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 2:11 PM
Lotus:

There are a few not-so-nice people on here once in a while, but for the most part, we try to ignore those people. Nearly everyone I've encountered on here has been more than nice, and this forum is a far cut above most in that regard.

I recommend you just ignore the goofball post and pay it no mind. The rest of us certainly aren't concerned about it. Just ask your questions and post your comments and let's move on. Trains are too fun and the day's too short to worry about mean-spirited forum members.

[swg]

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Posted by selector on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 2:15 PM
[#ditto] what jfugate said. There are marginal personalities everywhere you go, and some can get in your face. I know this must be upsetting, but try to cast it aside and just deal with those who treat you with the respect you deserve.

By the way, where did this originate?
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Posted by DrummingTrainfan on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 2:20 PM
[#ditto] with them up there. I've noticed many not-so-nice people. I just ignore them and don't get to worked up over them.

Another question, (yes...I am fairly new), what is a 'troll'?
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 2:23 PM
Lotus 98, You are definitley not a TROLL. TROLLS live in the lower peninsula of Michigan (Under the Bridge-Mackinaw) . So don't take this accusation seriously, unless you are a Michiganian of the lower peninsula persuasion. I think it is time to get your leg back from Dennis B and move on asking questions, reading, and learning about TRAINS.Enjoy!
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 2:25 PM
[#welcome][#ditto] Let it go if we believed every thing written about people we would never leave our homes or turn on our computers. like water off a duck back let it slide...
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 2:29 PM
I agree 100% with Joe. The world is full of ( how can I put this nicely? ) MEAN people. They can find their way into every part of life. Why should this forum be any different! Just forget about it, and move on. [2c]
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Posted by davekelly on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 2:48 PM
Lotus,

Perhaps it's because you have a mature outlook on life and this forum?

Just blow it off. As you get older you'll see that there are often folks that spout off "facts" without any real knowledge and say things with no regard to how it may affect others.

Just do what you know is right, smile and enjoy life!

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 2:50 PM
Something I have noticed, on this forum and the modelrailroad forums here and elsewhere they all seem like a good group of guys, all helpful, infact I can't think of a post that was off color or demeaning. Unlike the railfan forums that seem to be more about cliques and what they know you never will, what's even more odd is the same ones that are a little crass on the railfan forums are pretty big gentlemen here.

Why is that? Again all I see in the MR forums are compliments, encouragement and help.
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Posted by mustanggt on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 2:52 PM
Don't let him get to you. He seems to like calling people trolls[xx(]
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Posted by AntonioFP45 on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 2:54 PM
Guys,

Lotus, the trolls that are mentioned above have a particular writing and response pattern so bascially revealing that it's the same person. It's very possible that on a post or two that you made, your pattern may have been similar to that of the troll. So, don't sweat it.

I study writing patterns myself sometimes and notice that each person has a style. For example, mIne is easy to recognize. My thoughts are organized, sometimes wordy, but not always in sequential order. I think calmly but quickly, so at times my comments appear disjointed. This is why if I were to take on another forum name, most of the old timers here would quickly recognize me as soon as they read my posts.

Enjoy the forum! As for the person that accused you, he'll likely read this and be cool with you. The guy he mentions above likely irked him before.

Peace out.


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Posted by TrainFreak409 on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 2:58 PM
Lotus, how exactly would the man "know" that you were those other people? He doesn't, there is no possible way to know something like that, unless he can hack into your computer, and look through the screen to see who is typing, and under what username. He has no idea what exactly he is saying, he has no proof to it. There are thousands of people on this forum, and I'm sure that many of them structure their thoughts similarly.

Ignore what he says. You have come across as someone very mature for their age, not someone posing to be someone else.

Just keep asking questions, keep learning the answers, and continue to show your support for UP.[:p][;)]

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Posted by BRAKIE on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 3:08 PM
Lotus,I know of only one troll on this forum and he hasn't posted for quite some time.
Now back to you.. A Troll? I don't think so.

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Posted by SpaceMouse on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 3:09 PM
I tend to listen to what people say and either believe it--which is most of the time, or blow it off. Sometimes, I'm wrong.

I'm wrong enough that even though I blow someone off on one topic, I'll listen to them on another and decide again.

If you want respect, ask questions, help others, treat others well, and listen.

And don't react to goof-balls. Just not worth it.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 3:13 PM
Ok, Lotus098, please explain how a 14 year old works in a print shop, previously worked for Burger King and pays income taxes.

QUOTE: RE: Grossly Dishonoring the American Flag
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Posted by Lotus098 Posted: 19 Jul 2005, 20:57:50

We feed the world, this is part of the trade that helps to equalize outsourcing; don't laugh a lot foreign of companies do locate plants and other things in the US. Also outsourcing is not as bad as you make it out to be. For some things it is not profitable to outsource, the company I work for had look into doing a large print run for a client and the price of companies that outsourced to China and India were both higher than the price of a print shop in Texas. Look at car companies (since you laugh I'll explain) they base plants in the Detroit area, employ Americans to build their cars, same company also has nation wide dealerships employing Americans to sell the cars, and railroad to haul cars nation wide. Look at history there was a time when it was feared that American goods were selling at a higher price than goods shipped in from England (outsourcing). People talked of all that would be sold were cheaper British products, similar to fears of Chinese products. This did not happen; you seem to be of the same mindset of these people. You can learn a lot from history. Supply and demand plays a big part as well Chinese goods are usually not as well made as goods made right here at home, the more companies outsource the more demand there is for good American products, these can now be sold at a higher price and some one will start building factories in the US for them.
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If you can't stand the heat of the coffee don't buy it. The stuff is hot for a reason, this is absurd. They have very strict temperature controls (I did some work for Burger King and it had better be right at the temperatures they want) people want hot coffee and it sells, give it to them. The cups do say hot coffee. It's not there fault people are to clumsy to drink it. Could find a link to an article that says a patient needed 2 years of skin grafts. What other than medical bills should be paid. I agree with ereimer too many lawyers.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 3:21 PM
[wow]
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Posted by TrainFreak409 on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 3:24 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by dthurman

[wow]


[#ditto]

You can cut the tension in this topic with a knife right now...

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Posted by davekelly on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 3:27 PM
hmmmmmm
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Posted by SpaceMouse on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 3:27 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Dennis B

Ok, Lotus098, please explain how a 14 year old works in a print shop, previously worked for Burger King and pays income taxes.

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You wanted respect, boy. Here's your chance.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 3:36 PM
ouch!!! the gaulet has been laid down and a manley competition shal ensue....Let the jausting begin.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 3:39 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by polizi

ouch!!! the gaulet has been laid down and a manley competition shal ensue....Let the jausting begin.


Thanks, I laughed pretty loud on that one! Dog thought I was losing it. Thanks again Polizi!
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Posted by twhite on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 3:49 PM
This should be interesting. I'm currently ignoring some rather vicious postings against me on a Classic Movie Forum by someone who is obviously off of their Meds. Now I'm anxious to see how THIS turns out, LOL!
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Posted by TrainFreak409 on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 3:52 PM
The bell has rung, and the fans await the response of contender Lotus089! The suspense is killing the audience as we brace ourselves for Lotus's response to Dennis B's SMACKDOWN he posted just minutes ago...

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 3:56 PM
Wow, feel like we have a crowd standing around:

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Posted by loathar on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 4:08 PM
Who cares how old you are?!? As long as you make positive contributions and play nice with others. Who Cares? I've been in printing for 20 years and seen a lot of small shops that had young family members working at them.Mc Donalds, Burger King, Krogers. All these places can hire 13 or 14 year olds to do certain jobs on a limited work schedual.
Ignore the ignorence and move on...
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 4:11 PM
There's a logical way this could happen, but I'm not saying 'til we see what happens....
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 4:16 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by baldwinjl

There's a logical way this could happen, but I'm not saying 'til we see what happens....



I think I may know what you have in mind, once you said that the possible answer popped in my head.
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Posted by skiloff on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 4:16 PM
I think this falls into the category of so what? Whether he is or isn't, I don't care unless he is somehow degrading the forums, which doesn't seem apparent. Personally, I started working when I was 11 years old at an A&W. Yes, my parents owned it, but I made more money with less work than my paper route. I worked as a gas jockey when I was fourteen and had we not purchased a different restaurant, it is conceivable that I could have gone to work at many different places. Still, reading those other posts does make it quite suspicious. I just don't see the point in pretending you are something you are not, but thats your prerogative. Unless you somehow degrade the forums, I just say, "so what?"
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Posted by jjbmish on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 4:18 PM
Now the crowd is getting bigger.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 4:19 PM
On the one hand it is "So what?" but on the other hand we exchange a lot of advice on a lot of subjects, so there is an element of trust, as well.
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Posted by DrummingTrainfan on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 4:22 PM
As we wait during this break in the action would someone please explain to me what a troll is. I've seen the word thrown around alot but am not totally sure what it means. [%-)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 4:24 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by DrummingTrainfan

As we wait during this break in the action would someone please explain to me what a troll is. I've seen the word thrown around alot but am not totally sure what it means. [%-)]


This is from answers.com:

Technology
trolling


  • Surfing, or browsing, the Web.

  • Posting derogatory messages about sensitive subjects on newsgroups and chat rooms to bait users into responding.

  • Hanging around in a chat room without saying anything, like a "peeping tom."
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Posted by DrummingTrainfan on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 4:25 PM
ok. thanks.
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Posted by SpaceMouse on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 4:27 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by DrummingTrainfan

As we wait during this break in the action would someone please explain to me what a troll is. I've seen the word thrown around alot but am not totally sure what it means. [%-)]


A troll is an online denizen that baits a forum by making statements or asking questions to deliberately incite emotional reactions. Usually they hang around and fan the flames to keep the anger, etc. going.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 4:42 PM
We call it stirring the pot where I come from.
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Posted by twhite on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 4:57 PM
Trolls are little ugly gnomes that used to hang around under bridges in the Black Forest and attack people like Little Red Riding Hood and Rumplestiltskin if they didn't pay a fee to cross the bridge. You remember the signs, don't you?

STOP--PAY TROLL!!

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Posted by wctransfer on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 5:05 PM
Wow, that is some incriminating evidence, and Lotus hasnt posted yet. He may have been caught.

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Posted by loathar on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 5:08 PM
I still like the troll definition about them living under a bridge in Mich.
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Posted by JohnT14808 on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 5:12 PM
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Hm-m-m-m-m-m....I do a lot of reading and little posting on this forum....Does that make me a troll?? Just because I don't post a lot of messages?? I'll need to take lessons from Space Mouse on how to originate thougtfull and inciteful topics...and how to write up a great response from Joe Fugate...... Hope you guys don't charge too much.......as a county employee, I don't make much......
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Posted by Junctionfan on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 5:19 PM
To Dennis B.

If you legally work as a student, taxes come off paychecks right? They do at least in Canada. I don't know what Idaho State taxation laws are, I just know of what it is in Ontario and as the federal government.

The age doesn't mean much either as labour laws are different in Canada then in the U.S. I don't know what the legal age limit is in Idaho for working in a printing shop or Burger King so unless you know and can prove otherwise; the only thing you are doing is trolling.

So, if you have proof to back up your clames against Lotus, keep your negative attitude to yourself. Also, even if he was a troll, nothing pleases a troll more then for us to respond. Believe me; in the Magazine part of the forum we have had one guy who has had at least 5 alias including Trainfinder22. If it is a problem, evetually they will slip up and Bergie will nuke the troll.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 5:20 PM
I thought if you did a lot of reading and not much posting you were "lurking". Actually, I don't see anything wrong with that. When i first started coming to these forums I just watched a while before I started posting. And I don't post as much on Model Railroader as I do Trains. That doesn't mean I don't read and enjoy it.

Don't you think that's better than the 13 year old kid we had on here this spring who treated this like his personal chat room? Of course, now the question is...was he REALLY a 13 year old kid?

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 5:21 PM
Not caught, just working on the railroad while I still have summer break. About the employment I do as much part timework as I can get, most of it for my father, he produces customer service training material, for companies. I help with the layout and printing, one of the bigger projects I worked on was the Burger King project. I don't claim to pay income tax; I rue the day I will have too. I get fed up enough at the fact I pay sales tax and can't vote. Are you convinced yet?
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Looks like he is..........................
Posted by wctransfer on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 5:21 PM
Ahem , Dennis B should post to fire this up a bit[soapbox]

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 5:22 PM
Big croud, can we charge to see this?
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 5:32 PM
I kind of felt like I was 13 again! This reminds me of the fights at the bike racks after school, usually I was the one in the fights as my cousin was the big guy and I was the smaller guy, they always picked on me, but I always stood up and held my ground. Go Lotus, if you are being honest with all of us, and I hope you are, though you sure do write in a mature manner, much more so then me and I am 45 [:(]

I don't know either party in this, but I do know there are forums were some take it upon themselves to be the self appointed moderators or "channel master" like in the old CB radio days. There that should prove I am over 40 [:D]
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 5:33 PM
Dennis B...you might ought to get your fact straight before you go posting. Yes, 14 year-olds do occasionally get small jobs such as a small position at Burger King. Whoever said that stuff about you, Lotus, has unjust reasons. They have no clue what they are talking about. May I ask, what forum did this occur in? Please, don't allow them to ruin your fun. Just shake it off and ignore them. I agree, you seem to handle your posts logically and maturely.

Have a good day, and guys-Leave him the heck alone...Let him post in peace.

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Posted by pcarrell on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 5:36 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by ARTHILL

What is this all about?


I'm with you ARTHILL. It doesn't seem to make much difference to me if he's 4, 40, or 400. We're talking about trains here. Heck, some of them trains are only minutes old, and others are pushing 170! Are we to discriminate against them?

Maybe I'm just missing the point.

I think that was your point ARTHILL.

Again, I'm with you!

I'm going to go sit in the corner and and rock back and forth humming a single note now. [:p]
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 5:40 PM
[#ditto] what joe said
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 5:42 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by alstom

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Still can't get over the crowd!! And just for this lil' fire!! Excuse me if i'm being a little foolish.

Richard


Richard, not to worry, you're not being foolish. This is really a lot of fun!

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 5:44 PM
First here:(Did UP Bashers read this, get deleted?) That was where he started it.

And then for no reason, but to persoally discredit my agrument here:http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?page=1&TOPIC_ID=42674
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 5:45 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by mehrlich

QUOTE: Originally posted by alstom

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Still can't get over the crowd!! And just for this lil' fire!! Excuse me if i'm being a little foolish.

Richard


Richard, not to worry, you're not being foolish. This is really a lot of fun!

mike


I happened to pop in and it was up to 13. Anyone know what the record is?
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 5:45 PM
Well judging from the crowd in here with the help of your aggressive and antagonistic posts you seem to have picked up a real fan club. Of course it helps to spread the love by going out and picking fights by going into other forums like CTT (although you are a HO man) to stir up trouble.

Thats all for me I will go back to my new hobby of collecting dust bunnies. My new hobby that you kindly tipped me off on in the CTT forum. Thanks it was very consciderate of you to tip on this new and exciting hobby. It is very relazing and I rarely get in conflicts in the on line forum for it.

Peace in the MR forum. The post that this grew from is in the CTT forum and should have stayed there to keep it in context. Instead of playing one forum against the other.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 5:47 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Lotus098

First here:(Did UP Bashers read this, get deleted?) That was where he started it.

And then for no reason, but to persoally discredit my agrument here:http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?page=1&TOPIC_ID=42674


I also found this, not sure if this was before or after***I didn't look at the dates:

http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=24806

Again I find the Model Railroader general Discussions to be the best and freindliest forum here on the Kalmback site. You guys can get serious and have fun.
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Posted by ARTHILL on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 5:49 PM
I posted some really wierd stuff a couple of weeks ago, It turned out that after I taught my Gson how to find the site, he figured out how to post. I convinced him he should at least use his own handle. I don't see that he has posted stuff much since. I read some of the stuff on Trains that Lotus098 was posting, and wondered why such a string should even exist. I really appreciste the advice I get here as I try to catch up after 20 years doing other things. However, there is another even more sinister meaning of trolling, and that needs to be kept off this forum.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 5:50 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by emmaandy

Thats all for me I will go back to my new hobby of collecting dust bunnies. My new hobby that you kindly tipped me off on in the CTT forum. Thanks it was very consciderate of you to tip on this new and exciting hobby. It is very relazing and I rarely get in conflicts in the on line forum for it.


What is the CTT forum and how exactly do you collect dust bunnies, I always seem to have them even if I am not collecting them.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 5:50 PM
You must be talking to me.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 5:54 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by emmaandy

Well judging from the crowd in here with the help of your aggressive and antagonistic posts you seem to have picked up a real fan club. Of course it helps to spread the love by going out and picking fights by going into other forums like CTT (although you are a HO man) to stir up trouble.

Thats all for me I will go back to my new hobby of collecting dust bunnies. My new hobby that you kindly tipped me off on in the CTT forum. Thanks it was very consciderate of you to tip on this new and exciting hobby. It is very relazing and I rarely get in conflicts in the on line forum for it.

Peace in the MR forum. The post that this grew from is in the CTT forum and should have stayed there to keep it in context. Instead of playing one forum against the other.

Actually the only place I have quoted or linked to is the Model Railroader forum. I put the other topic over there because this was the place with a higher number of UP bashers who needed to see some facts, since they might not feel obliged to come down here if they model O scale. I like TrainFreak409 (who is also a teenager, but doesn't always write like one, post all over the place.)
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Posted by wctransfer on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 5:57 PM
Richard slow yourself. Some of your posts have no reason.

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Posted by ARTHILL on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 6:00 PM
I would have been a better modeler today if there would have been a forum like this 60 years ago.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 6:00 PM
I don't know about the dust bunny thing it was just something that lotus098 tipped me off on. I think he said it to me as a meens of dismissing my negative feelings about the UP charges that I was posting about.

Anyways that snarky comment really openned a new world to me about the new and exciting world of Dust bunnies and dust bunny collecting. Who knew there could be such variety. Check out www.dustbunnies/forums/collecting/landscapes.com. It changed my whole outlook on my hobby and I am tearing down the layout to build my new collecting space.

At least on the dust bunny forum no one comes around with beligerant and half formed "facts" about why my opinion on UP and thier fee collecting is wrong.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 6:05 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by dthurman

QUOTE: Originally posted by Lotus098

First here:(Did UP Bashers read this, get deleted?) That was where he started it.

And then for no reason, but to persoally discredit my agrument here:http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?page=1&TOPIC_ID=42674


I also found this, not sure if this was before or after***I didn't look at the dates:

http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=24806

Again I find the Model Railroader general Discussions to be the best and freindliest forum here on the Kalmback site. You guys can get serious and have fun.
This was before I started posting here. That guy doesn't sound like me at all, I tend to be very long winded, and use a minimal of smiles. How could you mistake Ted E. Bear, for me?
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 6:06 PM
Well you made your point over there (CTT) several times over I think. So why are you complaining here (MR) about something that happened there? Why don't you write a message to Dennis B instead of doing this so (semi) publicly and in a forum that has no knowledge of what caused this squabble.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 6:07 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by alstom

Could this "Dust Bunny" thing get any stupider.......??


I rather liked the whole humor deal, he did paint a good picture, and I fell for the link.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 6:10 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by emmaandy

I don't know about the dust bunny thing it was just something that lotus098 tipped me off on. I think he said it to me as a meens of dismissing my negative feelings about the UP charges that I was posting about.

Anyways that snarky comment really openned a new world to me about the new and exciting world of Dust bunnies and dust bunny collecting. Who knew there could be such variety. Check out www.dustbunnies/forums/collecting/landscapes.com. It changed my whole outlook on my hobby and I am tearing down the layout to build my new collecting space.

At least on the dust bunny forum no one comes around with beligerant and half formed "facts" about why my opinion on UP and thier fee collecting is wrong.
I said something to the effect that if you could not afford the UP licensing (gave an actually number), you should probably get a cheaper hobby, like collecting dust bunnies. Of course, it is a joke.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 6:11 PM
OK, here's what I think about this "problem." It's so easy on this and all other forums to be someone your not. Put any name, have aliases, be a troll or a flamer ,and it doesn't matter, cuz no one knows who you are! A while back someone on one of these forms suggested that we ALL use our real names. What would be so bad about that?

If you get right down to it, those of us who choose to be "who we are" are actually quite reachable. If you use some common sense, our profile and our name, you could actually find us. (Maybe that's a bad thing nowdays). But I like it when I look at a post or in a profile and actually KNOW who I'm talking to. So, Mr. Lotus 098, I'd like to think you're a young fella, but unfortunately, as someone else above said, maybe you're NOT. If you're who you say you are, blow it off and stop worrying. Cuz it really don't matter what the rest of us think.

'nuff said.

Amen.





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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 6:13 PM
The dust bunny thing was a way I was dissmissed for my short sighted and borderline communist views on UP fund collection methods. Apparently I spend too much of my time in a pro-Up-bashing area and I needed to be taught the err of my ways. The dust bunny thing was a way of dissmising me and finding me a slower paced less expencive hobby with no licencing worries. Thanks again it's changed my life.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 6:15 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by emmaandy

Well you made your point over there (CTT) several times over I think. So why are you complaining here (MR) about something that happened there? Why don't you write a message to Dennis B instead of doing this so (semi) publicly and in a forum that has no knowledge of what caused this squabble.
I would have been quite happy to leave it be, however he couldn't he had to come over to the Model Railroader side, and make a greater claim. Just how would you suggest I could have done that, I can't email the guy, and I wanted to warn others?
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 6:17 PM
14 user(s) are reading this topic. (2 guests, 11 members, 1 anonymous members)
This could be a new record

Otherwise this is kind of stupid don't flame just talk trains

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Posted by Rotorranch on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 6:18 PM
www.dustbunnies.com

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 6:20 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by alstom

QUOTE: Originally posted by emmaandy

The dust bunny thing was a way I was dissmissed for my short sighted and borderline communist views on UP fund collection methods. Apparently I spend too much of my time in a pro-Up-bashing area and I needed to be taught the err of my ways. The dust bunny thing was a way of dissmising me and finding me a slower paced less expencive hobby with no licencing worries. Thanks again it's changed my life.


Would you and "Lotus098" knock it off!! This dust bunny stuff is irritating!! Just live your life, forget about things and keep model railroading and don't collect "dust bunnies"!! Of all things to think up Lotus098!

Richard


Richard/Alstom

You got this all wrong, I think the humor on the dust bunnies is great! I am sitting here reading all this now and instead of looking for an outcome, I am having fun.

Which is what we all should be doing...
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Posted by babefluff on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 6:23 PM
I don't know about everybody else, but tis whole thing seems like a waste of good web space. A big crowd has gathered around to see the school yard fight. It's like when you see an accident up ahead, everybody slows down to see if they can see how bad of an accident it really was. Yes I know this sounds morbid, but it is just human nature. I read this forum a lot, I don't make a lot of posts. One star or fifty stars what difference does it really make? Our hobby is relaxing lets keep it that way and forget about who said what. After all, not all of us are still in grade six.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 6:23 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Rotorranch

www.dustbunnies.com

[:D][;)][8D][:p][:)]


Thanks Rotorranch!

I found the facts page to be exspecially useful:

http://www.dustbunnies.com/dust_bunny_facts.htm
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 6:25 PM
Still waiting for the reply of Dennis B. By the way my real name as you can find out is James Simmons. Many of my post ended like this.
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Posted by espeefoamer on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 6:26 PM
11 members are reading this now.
I found some dustbunnies lurking in the far corners of my layout.One had a scanner,and several more had cameras.One was wearing an anti UP tee shirt![;)][:)][:D][8D][:p].
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 6:27 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by espeefoamer

11 members are reading this now.
I found some dustbunnies lurking in the far corners of my layout.One had a scanner,and several more had cameras.One was wearing an anti UP tee shirt![;)][:)][:D][8D][:p].


I hope you informed them of the BNSF 100 foot limits on your ROW [:p]
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 6:29 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by babefluff

I don't know about everybody else, but tis whole thing seems like a waste of good web space. A big crowd has gathered around to see the school yard fight. It's like when you see an accident up ahead, everybody slows down to see if they can see how bad of an accident it really was. Yes I know this sounds morbid, but it is just human nature. I read this forum a lot, I don't make a lot of posts. One star or fifty stars what difference does it really make? Our hobby is relaxing lets keep it that way and forget about who said what. After all, not all of us are still in grade six.

Scott
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Posted by DrummingTrainfan on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 6:31 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by dthurman

QUOTE: Originally posted by Rotorranch

www.dustbunnies.com

[:D][;)][8D][:p][:)]


Thanks Rotorranch!

I found the facts page to be exspecially useful:

http://www.dustbunnies.com/dust_bunny_facts.htm



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Posted by espeefoamer on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 6:33 PM
Hey alstom,DUSTBUNNIES DUSTBUNNIES DUSTBUNNIES
[}:)][}:)][}:)][}:)][}:)][}:)][}:)][}:)][}:)][}:)][}:)][}:)][}:)][}:)][}:)][}:)][}:)][}:)][}:)][}:)][}:)][}:)][}:)][}:)][}:)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 6:34 PM
I had a couple of questions about modeling trains but you all scare me. I will ask them some where else. This forum is for fighting???
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 6:35 PM
I am working on my dustbunny model of a UP GP-50 and unit trailer train.

I know what you are going to ask so I will beat you to it. No I am not going to pay UP a dime.

I started by unravelling a yellow sweater over a sheet of paper. I then carefully tipped the paper up and made a "dust ball". This step is tricky because the rest of the model is built off this base. The color of the model is due to the dust used.

I found that the best place to get sweaters for this is a thrift shop. It takes several sweaters in various colors and some time to build up a nice dust train. It is also tricky to find a good work area. A good wind will distroy minutes of work so it is best to work in a corner or other protected area like under the bed. When you are done some hairspray will set you dust bunny model and it can be carefully transfered to your dust bunny landscape or layout as we call them in the US.

You can see a gallery of my work at www.dustbunny/models/landscape/gallery/emmmaandy.com

What do you think? Surprising likeness right? I was trying to go for a weathered workhorse look. Would love to hear you comments.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 6:35 PM
5 pages...wow.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 6:37 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by emmaandy

I am working on my dustbunny model of a UP GP-50 and unit trailer train.

I know what you are going to ask so I will beat you to it. No I am not going to pay UP a dime.

I started by unravelling a yellow sweater over a sheet of paper. I then carefully tipped the paper up and made a "dust ball". This step is tricky because the rest of the model is built off this base. The color of the model is due to the dust used.

I found that the best place to get sweaters for this is a thrift shop. It takes several sweaters in various colors and some time to build up a nice dust train. It is also tricky to find a good work area. A good wind will distroy minutes of work so it is best to work in a corner or other protected area like under the bed. When you are done some hairspray will set you dust bunny model and it can be carefully transfered to your dust bunny landscape or layout as we call them in the US.

You can see a gallery of my work at www.dustbunny/models/landscape/gallery/emmmaandy.com

What do you think? Surprising likeness right? I was trying to go for a weathered workhorse look. Would love to hear you comments.


What brand of couplers did you use? They look a little over scaled. Sorry but just trying to get my dryer going so I too can start collecting them.
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Posted by wctransfer on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 6:37 PM
why are you agging Alstom on. Lookey here.

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Alstom, im not flaming, but seriously ,look at some of your posts in this thread, they have no reason what so ever and dont benefit anything. Dont get worked up over this either, just slow down.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 6:38 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by emmaandy

I am working on my dustbunny model of a UP GP-50 and unit trailer train.

I know what you are going to ask so I will beat you to it. No I am not going to pay UP a dime.

I started by unravelling a yellow sweater over a sheet of paper. I then carefully tipped the paper up and made a "dust ball". This step is tricky because the rest of the model is built off this base. The color of the model is due to the dust used.

I found that the best place to get sweaters for this is a thrift shop. It takes several sweaters in various colors and some time to build up a nice dust train. It is also tricky to find a good work area. A good wind will distroy minutes of work so it is best to work in a corner or other protected area like under the bed. When you are done some hairspray will set you dust bunny model and it can be carefully transfered to your dust bunny landscape or layout as we call them in the US.

You can see a gallery of my work at www.dustbunny/models/landscape/gallery/emmmaandy.com

What do you think? Surprising likeness right? I was trying to go for a weathered workhorse look. Would love to hear you comments.


Be sure not to let BNSF lease it, as you will not be able to come within 100 feet of it![:P][:D]
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 6:38 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by bostonsrock

I had a couple of questions about modeling trains but you all scare me. I will ask them some where else. This forum is for fighting???

Hey Guys---
Look what you did you scared off bostonsrock you should be ashamed[:(!][:(!][:(!]
bostonsrock--- we are not all like this these guys are just being stupid ask some other guys they are very helpful

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 6:44 PM
The Dust Bunnies are getting old fast.
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Posted by ARTHILL on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 6:46 PM
Drew22, I'm not like these guys. I wouldn't even open a string like this much less read it and then post a response. Doesn't anyone want to talk about modeling? I'm having a heck of a time trying to model Pheasants in HO.
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Posted by dharmon on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 6:48 PM
Oops wrong forum......I was trying to log on MR foums, not Atlas....

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Posted by Rotorranch on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 6:51 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by uspscsx

QUOTE: Originally posted by emmaandy

I am working on my dustbunny model of a UP GP-50 and unit trailer train.

I know what you are going to ask so I will beat you to it. No I am not going to pay UP a dime.

I started by unravelling a yellow sweater over a sheet of paper. I then carefully tipped the paper up and made a "dust ball". This step is tricky because the rest of the model is built off this base. The color of the model is due to the dust used.

I found that the best place to get sweaters for this is a thrift shop. It takes several sweaters in various colors and some time to build up a nice dust train. It is also tricky to find a good work area. A good wind will distroy minutes of work so it is best to work in a corner or other protected area like under the bed. When you are done some hairspray will set you dust bunny model and it can be carefully transfered to your dust bunny landscape or layout as we call them in the US.

You can see a gallery of my work at www.dustbunny/models/landscape/gallery/emmmaandy.com

What do you think? Surprising likeness right? I was trying to go for a weathered workhorse look. Would love to hear you comments.


Be sure not to let BNSF lease it, as you will not be able to come within 100 feet of it![:P][:D]


ROFLMAO.........I just blew ice tea out my nose all over my keyboard! [:D][:p][;)][:)][^]

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 6:52 PM
On a different note. My advice for any young people is to NEVER comment on your age in a public forum. Most people are good but some are not. And in a less serious note sometimes they will use your age against you by dismissing your opinion. So it is in your best interest to keep school stuff and age under your hat. No one needs to know how old you are here. Congratulations on your choice of hobby.

Maybe I can convince you to join the dust bunny model sub-group of the hobby. It is cheap which means you can save that lawn mower money for college. It is easy to change scales and the only real expence is hairspray for that final set.

And while I am thinking of lawn clippings I wonder if anyone is making compost models. True it would be somewhat time based but you could use the older grass clippings to model a pretty good UP with the grey and yellow coloring.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 6:52 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by bostonsrock

I had a couple of questions about modeling trains but you all scare me. I will ask them some where else. This forum is for fighting???


Only this thread. every other thread is totally civil. Almost. For some it is necessary to bash UP on occasion, others are genetically predisposed to defend. Then both groups go back to sleep, or maybe to modelling!

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 6:56 PM
emmaandy

I have to say thanks for a great break from all this and your dust bunnie stuff is a real neat topic, you may want to let the guys at Kalmback in on it to start a whole new forum.

I need to start operating (my girlfriend says playing with) my trains. I have a coal plant waiting on that unit train, I need to get them a track warrant and get them out into the clear.

Thanks for a great laugh this after noon, now back to the serious stuff.[:)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 6:59 PM
Hey now Lotus the dust bunny thing was your idea.

Oh another thought on the compost modeling. Fresh grass clippings could be modeled into a good Burlington Northern scheme. Circa 70's and 80's. I'm heading over to the golf course tommorrow. I bet if I play my cards right I could get a truck bed full for next to nothing.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 6:59 PM
Well, it's a response but I'll leave it up to you to decide if Lotus098 answered the question convincingly. And yes, he did say he paid taxes. Go back and look at the quote.

Actually, if you dig through the archives, you'll find I am not the first person to ask if he's 14. Read through his postings. Do you know any 14 year old kid who is so knowledgible and opinionated. He discusses taxes and politics with the same ferver as you and I. His viewpoints are not those of a typical 14 year old. That and a certain pattern or style of writing made me curious. So I thought that I would have a little fun.

Did you notice how Lotus098's reaction in this thread differs in tone and style from his more recent UP thread rants?

Ok, so what does it matter? Ask yourself why someone would use this artifice. Why not just be straight?

And FYI--the manager at the local Nampa ID Burger King does not hire 14 year old kids-too many federal restrictions.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 7:02 PM
I was using some old horn and hook couplers with the tabs cut off. (Low budget ninja style).
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Posted by Rotorranch on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 7:05 PM
16 user(s) are reading this topic. (2 guests, 12 members, 2 anonymous members)

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 7:05 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by ARTHILL

Drew22, I'm not like these guys. I wouldn't even open a string like this much less read it and then post a response. Doesn't anyone want to talk about modeling? I'm having a heck of a time trying to model Pheasants in HO.

Hey ARTHILL---
I wasn't talking about everyone if insulted you i'm really sorry!

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 7:07 PM
I'm having a heck of a time even coming up with a layout plan, much less pheasants. Yes, let's get back to MR guys. I'm leaving this once and for all.

Goodbye, good luck James...for some reason I feel like you are right here.

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Posted by Rotorranch on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 7:11 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by uspscsx

I'm having a heck of a time even coming up with a layout plan, much less pheasants.

uspscsx


Perhaps you could kitbash some dust bunnies into pheasants? Or would the ASPCDB get upset?

Might need a disclaimer...."No Dust Bunnies were hurt in the creation of these pheasants". [;)]

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Posted by ARTHILL on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 7:12 PM
Sorry Drew, I was trying to be sarcastic, claiming not to write a post in a post.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 7:18 PM
My dust bunny models and landscapes are a product of my own intelligent design.

Just walked into my dust bunny landscape room and made the mistake of walking by too fast and the train flew off in the wind. Bunny bashing.
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Posted by Junctionfan on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 7:24 PM
Well then so what if it's nonsense? I have listened to so much nonsense over the past years it becomes necessary to just smile politely and filter out the junk that is obviously not true. I'm 25 years old 26 in September and I have another 50 or 60 years maybe more of listening to garbage.

If I run for political office which I am thinking on doing at some point when I feel like it, the amount of garbage talk will increase 10 fold.

So to be perfectly honest (no humour intended), folk need to develop some patience. I know it is hard; goodness knows I have a hard time practicing what I preach and often have bouts of hypocracy but it is best to just forget about it.
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Posted by dharmon on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 7:32 PM
The way I see it Mr Hand, is that if I'm here and your here, it makes it our time. And there's nothing wrong with a little feast on our time.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 7:38 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon

The way I see it Mr Hand, is that if I'm here and your here, it makes it our time. And there's nothing wrong with a little feast on our time.


Ah, but what was Mr. Hand's reply? Not what Spekolli (major sp) wanted.
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Posted by Train 284 on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 7:43 PM
Geez, just leave the guy alone.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 7:52 PM
SIX pages. WOW! Great stuff.
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Posted by dave9999 on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 8:01 PM
HELP!!! I have been sucked into this topic like some kind of cyber "black hole". It's
like our famous rip currents here in P'cola. The harder you try to escape, the farther
in it pulls you. Now I can't log on with out checking this thread (and the other one
about a guy who choose to have a young lady hold his train). Someone help before
I start a unnecessary topic of my own. Dave

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 8:04 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by dave9999

HELP!!! I have been sucked into this topic like some kind of cyber "black hole". It's
like our famous rip currents here in P'cola. The harder you try to escape, the farther
in it pulls you. Now I can't log on with out checking this thread (and the other one
about a guy who choose to have a young lady hold his train). Someone help before
I start a unnecessary topic of my own. Dave



I too seemed to be draw to this topic like a moth to a flame (no pun intened)

Can I ask, do you have any cars to weather, bad track that needs attention? I have the computer in the same room as the layout, I keep turning around looking instead of running some trains.

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Posted by TrainFreak409 on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 8:32 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Dennis B

Well, it's a response but I'll leave it up to you to decide if Lotus098 answered the question convincingly. And yes, he did say he paid taxes. Go back and look at the quote.

Actually, if you dig through the archives, you'll find I am not the first person to ask if he's 14. Read through his postings. Do you know any 14 year old kid who is so knowledgible and opinionated. He discusses taxes and politics with the same ferver as you and I. His viewpoints are not those of a typical 14 year old. That and a certain pattern or style of writing made me curious. So I thought that I would have a little fun.

Did you notice how Lotus098's reaction in this thread differs in tone and style from his more recent UP thread rants?

Ok, so what does it matter? Ask yourself why someone would use this artifice. Why not just be straight?

And FYI--the manager at the local Nampa ID Burger King does not hire 14 year old kids-too many federal restrictions.


Dennis, cut him some slack. Big deal if he can discuss things on an adult level. I did the same thing when I was 14. By the age of 14, every adult I knew considered me one as well. I talked about everything with the adults, and still do when I get the chance. Just because someone is a teenager, doesn't mean they are immature, wild, or unsensable, like the oh-so-common stereotype portrays us to be.

Lotus's reaction might differ because it is a different topic. The UP topic is about his interest in UP, this topic is about someone saying stuff against him. It sounds to me like he is just being defensive right now.

And for your information, some Burger Kings will hire 14. I know, as I almost got a job at one, but decided against it.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 8:38 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Dennis B

Well, it's a response but I'll leave it up to you to decide if Lotus098 answered the question convincingly. And yes, he did say he paid taxes. Go back and look at the quote.

Actually, if you dig through the archives, you'll find I am not the first person to ask if he's 14. Read through his postings. Do you know any 14 year old kid who is so knowledgible and opinionated. He discusses taxes and politics with the same ferver as you and I. His viewpoints are not those of a typical 14 year old. That and a certain pattern or style of writing made me curious. So I thought that I would have a little fun.

Did you notice how Lotus098's reaction in this thread differs in tone and style from his more recent UP thread rants?

Ok, so what does it matter? Ask yourself why someone would use this artifice. Why not just be straight?

And FYI--the manager at the local Nampa ID Burger King does not hire 14 year old kids-too many federal restrictions.
I do pay taxes, sales tax, gas tax (for the lawnmower), taxes on shipping, and I directly see how much my parents pay. No you are only the second person to ask, the other was antigates on the forum about UP's flag. You have to remember I am so knowledgeable and opinionated, because I listen a certain radio show (nobody picked up on the Rio Linda, joke[;)]), study lots of books, study economics all the time, and associate with adults (not a lot of kids). Many people have commented to my parents how I act much more like an adult than I do a child. Many people have a certain pattern of writing, although I would have phrased much of what was said by the other people you suppose to be me, quite differently. I can get mad, when people display an extreme lack of logic, they use opinion, I use facts, then I don't get flamed, I get roasted alive. So I tend to sound irritated, on certain topics. I am as straight as you can get. However I have some fond ideas about the "good old days", so it may sometimes sound like I lived through them.
Read carefully, I said I did some work for Burger King, not I worked for Burger King. I didn't serve coffee; I typed questions about the proper serving temperatures. How come you have yet to say you might be wrong, or to even give me the benefit of the doubt? Also I thought on some of the forums talking like I was not 14 more people might give my views more thought, while I never claimed not to be 14. Check out my post on how much equipment I have:http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?page=-1&TOPIC_ID=41851&REPLY_ID=439068#439068
Does this sound like an old guy, or a kid who saves up all his money to buy these things? Did any of these other guys do a lot of research bout trains in Idaho, and make comments about how west is better? Certain things that make up my personality are unavoidably lacking on any other user.
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Posted by grayfox1119 on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 8:38 PM
[#ditto] to what Jim stated, we cannot add to what he stated. There will always be people on the forum who like to "stir" the pot."...if ignorance was bliss, they would be the happiest people in the world. Thankfully, they are a very, very small minority in this great MRR forum.
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Posted by rexhea on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 8:43 PM
Hi guys,
I was at the Mall and someone told me there was a fight going on over here. Something about an identity crisis or was it identity fraud. I see a fire truck; did they put the fire out? I sure hope so. Guess I will get back to modeling.

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Posted by TrainFreak409 on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 8:47 PM
This thread is approaching the popularity of my "Questionable eBay Tactics" thread...

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 8:49 PM
Now to be serious. I have met 13-16 years olds that are mature beyound belief. The can write very well, read a lot and I hear many call into Rush and Hannity all the time, speaking about topics my girlfreind and brother have no clue about.

I am going to have to say I think you are on the up and up, and I think your Rio Linda joke is the all seeing Ma Ha Rushie, am I right?

Hang in there, and please don't take offense to the dust bunny stuff, it was all in good fun, for me and hopefully others.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 8:50 PM
1,663 have seen this. A poll asking if I'm really me would be popular too, I am sure. Glad you are using your head there TrainFreak409.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 8:57 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by dthurman

Now to be serious. I have met 13-16 years olds that are mature beyound belief. The can write very well, read a lot and I hear many call into Rush and Hannity all the time, speaking about topics my girlfreind and brother have no clue about.

I am going to have to say I think you are on the up and up, and I think your Rio Linda joke is the all seeing Ma Ha Rushie, am I right?

Hang in there, and please don't take offense to the dust bunny stuff, it was all in good fun, for me and hopefully others.
I wondered anyone would pick up on it, you guessed it. I am glad a lack of maturity is not expected of me. No offense taken about the bunnies.
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Posted by TrainFreak409 on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 9:31 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Lotus098

1,663 have seen this. A poll asking if I'm really me would be popular too, I am sure. Glad you are using your head there TrainFreak409.


Why wouldn't I use my head? Isn't that what it is there for?[:D]

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Posted by okiechoochoo on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 9:42 PM
To be blunt, who cares?

All Lionel all the time.

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Posted by okiechoochoo on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 9:43 PM
and further more, I think lotus is what ever he is and Dennis needs to get a life. After saying that, I still don't care

All Lionel all the time.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 9:55 PM
Another good question is: Why does Dennis ([:D]maybe that isn't his real name[:D]) care?
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 10:28 PM
You attracted my attention because you started UPS flame wars (intentional or not ) on several forums. To me, it really smacked of a prior troller. I needed a distraction so I checked out your posts. As I noted, there was room for speculation. So, I figured I'd fan the flames your way and see what happened. If you were who I thought you were, you would just melt away. In the not too distant past, we had Bert & Ernie and Mary Poppins, neither of whom were who they said they were. They disappeared quickly.

Ok, you've convinced me. I stand corrected and I apologize. But you've got to admit , it's been one heck of a ride.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 10:38 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Dennis B

You attracted my attention because you started UPS flame wars (intentional or not ) on several forums. To me, it really smacked of a prior troller. I needed a distraction so I checked out your posts. As I noted, there was room for speculation. So, I figured I'd fan the flames your way and see what happened. If you were who I thought you were, you would just melt away. In the not too distant past, we had Bert & Ernie and Mary Poppins, neither of whom were who they said they were. They disappeared quickly.

Ok, you've convinced me. I stand corrected and I apologize. But you've got to admit , it's been one heck of a ride.


I admire your willingness to admit you made a mistake. It takes a great deal of maturity to do that on a public forum, exspecially after all this. Kudos Dennis.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 10:45 PM
[:D][:)][^][bow][(-D][swg][tup][tup]THANK YOU! [:D][:)][^][bow][(-D][swg][tup][tup]
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Posted by selector on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 11:03 PM
Well, thank goodness that's over! Welcome, Lotus, and let's get to the trains! [8D]
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 11:22 PM
*wipes his brow and whews*

That gentlemen was -almost- as good as the Thriller in Manila...

Now lets go back to or studio in New York for the wrap up.... Howard....
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Posted by Grubby on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 11:35 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Dennis B

You attracted my attention because you started UPS flame wars (intentional or not ) on several forums. To me, it really smacked of a prior troller. I needed a distraction so I checked out your posts. As I noted, there was room for speculation. So, I figured I'd fan the flames your way and see what happened. If you were who I thought you were, you would just melt away. In the not too distant past, we had Bert & Ernie and Mary Poppins, neither of whom were who they said they were. They disappeared quickly.

Ok, you've convinced me. I stand corrected and I apologize. But you've got to admit , it's been one heck of a ride.


Not good enough really, your intial post that started this was phrased in stronger terms than speculation.... save the speculation for the stock market. If we are going to attack each other then lets do it based on reality not speculation.
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Posted by trolleyboy on Thursday, August 11, 2005 12:13 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Dennis B

Well, it's a response but I'll leave it up to you to decide if Lotus098 answered the question convincingly. And yes, he did say he paid taxes. Go back and look at the quote.

Actually, if you dig through the archives, you'll find I am not the first person to ask if he's 14. Read through his postings. Do you know any 14 year old kid who is so knowledgible and opinionated. He discusses taxes and politics with the same ferver as you and I. His viewpoints are not those of a typical 14 year old. That and a certain pattern or style of writing made me curious. So I thought that I would have a little fun.

Did you notice how Lotus098's reaction in this thread differs in tone and style from his more recent UP thread rants?

Ok, so what does it matter? Ask yourself why someone would use this artifice. Why not just be straight?

And FYI--the manager at the local Nampa ID Burger King does not hire 14 year old kids-too many federal restrictions.
Just a couple of quick comments. Beyond the obvious downside to this crazed wich hunt. James is a kid. On a work front or even in life some teenagers are more articulate than others. I am a retail store manager and have hired the odd 14 15 year old kid. All of whom shocked the heck out of me with their level headedness and wise beyond their years knowledge.yes there are federal codes but most if you check into them are worded tthat as long as the parents don't mind and certain hour retrictions are in place you can hire young teens. And yes they would have taxes deducted from their paychecks. You woukld have to file taxes to get them back and most kids would/will at the end of the tax year.I'm in Canada but I'm sure that IRS rules aren't all that much different than Rev Cans. Lets end this stupidity kiss and make up and get back to trains what this forum is really all about. Enough of this he sad she said garbage. Rob
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Posted by Rotorranch on Thursday, August 11, 2005 1:09 AM
Awww, gee....this was so much fun!

Does this mean we have to start a new forum for Dust Bunny modeling? [;)][:)][:D][^]

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Posted by wctransfer on Thursday, August 11, 2005 10:04 AM
would someone get mad if i started another flame war? It would give you something to do[B)][censored][D)][:-,][yeah][soapbox]
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Posted by DrummingTrainfan on Thursday, August 11, 2005 10:19 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Dennis B

Actually, if you dig through the archives, you'll find I am not the first person to ask if he's 14. Read through his postings. Do you know any 14 year old kid who is so knowledgible and opinionated. He discusses taxes and politics with the same ferver as you and I. His viewpoints are not those of a typical 14 year old. That and a certain pattern or style of writing made me curious. So I thought that I would have a little fun.



So? I'm around his age and consider myself very oppninionated (sp?) and into politics. I have some different veiwpoints. I consider myself somewhat knowledgable (although trains aren't one of my good subjects). Have you ever heard of the 13-14 year olds graduating from Harvard? (for the record I'm not anywhere near that level). My point is there are kids that defy the standard. I'm guessing Mr. Lotus is one of them.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 11, 2005 10:24 AM
Trolleyboy and others,

IF you look, you'll see this was amicably ended prior to your post. This was not a witch hunt. I jumped to an erronious conclusion, I apologized and Lotus098 accepted. Do you still want to keep this going?
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Posted by davekelly on Thursday, August 11, 2005 10:34 AM
[:)]

Dennis - Good for you!!!!

Lotus - Take this whole thread as a compliment to your maturity and ability to express yourself in writing. Not many 14 year olds can be mistaken for an adult. (Of course many adults can be mistaken for 14 year olds!!).

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Posted by Train 284 on Thursday, August 11, 2005 10:37 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by davekelly

[:)]

Dennis - Good for you!!!!

Lotus - Take this whole thread as a compliment to your maturity and ability to express yourself in writing. Not many 14 year olds can be mistaken for an adult. (Of course many adults can be mistaken for 14 year olds!!).




AMEN!!! I am glad this is all over! [:)][:)][:p][8D]
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Posted by TrainFreak409 on Thursday, August 11, 2005 10:42 AM
Yes, I am glad this is over as well. We do not need a rivalry, so-to-speak, such as this to go on between two members. Now, everyone can have a sigh of relief, and we can all get back with the regularly scheduled program, instead of crowding in here like it was a wresling arena.[:p]

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 11, 2005 12:52 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by davekelly

[:)]

Dennis - Good for you!!!!

Lotus - Take this whole thread as a compliment to your maturity and ability to express yourself in writing. Not many 14 year olds can be mistaken for an adult. (Of course many adults can be mistaken for 14 year olds!!).


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Posted by selector on Thursday, August 11, 2005 1:37 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by davekelly

[:)]

Dennis - Good for you!!!!

Lotus - Take this whole thread as a compliment to your maturity and ability to express yourself in writing. Not many 14 year olds can be mistaken for an adult. (Of course many adults can be mistaken for 14 year olds!!).




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Posted by trollw on Thursday, August 11, 2005 2:39 PM
Well, I just want to say here and now that I have been nicknamed the Troll for over 35 years -- and I must say that we (trolls) have been very unjustly maligned. Now I think I'll just go out under my bridge and pout![:(]

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Posted by davekelly on Thursday, August 11, 2005 5:29 PM
John (trollw),

Perhaps you could start a special interest group and get some protection from the EEOC?

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Posted by trollw on Friday, August 12, 2005 12:42 PM
Hmmmmmmmmmmm, I wonder?

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 12, 2005 3:36 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Overdurff

Lotus 98, You are definitley not a TROLL. TROLLS live in the lower peninsula of Michigan (Under the Bridge-Mackinaw) . So don't take this accusation seriously, unless you are a Michiganian of the lower peninsula persuasion.
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Posted by countershot on Friday, August 12, 2005 4:36 PM
thank god it is over.
now lets get back to railroad peace.
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