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Passenger cars on 18"radius: is it possible?

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Posted by TurboOne on Saturday, February 19, 2005 11:24 AM
Don, do you have a pick of how you did your reversing loop ? Thanks

Tim
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Posted by DigitalGriffin on Saturday, February 19, 2005 10:03 AM
I faced the same agonizing problem with my 5x8 board. How to fit two to three tracks side by side and not have that cursid overhang problem. My solution was to do a reverse loop at one end of the board that ran under the table. When it goes in the tunnel, it's mostly straight. When it comes out of the tunnel, it's mostly straight. Only disadvanage is it will suck up about 2 feet of board at the end.

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Posted by IRONROOSTER on Saturday, February 19, 2005 8:08 AM
Some of the small railroads ran open platform passenger cars of about 55' over the platforms. If you're trying to get really short like the Overton cars from MDC you're really "imagineering". Nothing wrong with that. You could also get some Athearn or MDC kits and modify them to a shorter length of say 50'.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, February 19, 2005 7:51 AM
Go for it at 18" radius. If your space is limited. Most passenger cars will take it.
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Posted by CP5415 on Saturday, February 19, 2005 6:55 AM
I've run Walthers recent offerings of passenger cars on an 18" curve.
They made it, but I had the locomotive creaping as it went through the curve.

SO YES!!!

You can MODEL a passenger train with an 18" radius curve dispite what other people have recently said.
Modeling is just that MODELING!!!!
There is no right or wrong about it.

Just my 2 cents

Gordon

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Posted by BRVRR on Friday, February 18, 2005 10:59 PM
You can run Athearn BB streamlined passenger cars with the truck mounted couplers and the new Walther's 60' heavyweights on 18-inch radius track. They may overhang too much but they will run. If you have problems, particularly with the Athearn cars, check the weighting. They are usuall a couple of ounces light out of the box. Both types run fine on the BRVRR which has some 18" radius curves.

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, February 18, 2005 10:42 PM
I ran my Athearn Amtrak cars on 18" curves for a long time. Then I bumped the outer loop to 22", and they looked better, and ran better too. After the demise of that layout, I now run them around a 34" radius loop. They sure do look nice on 32"R. Bigger radii always make cars look more prototypical. If all you have is 18", and it makes you happy, go for it. Model railroading is about modeling a prototype, but it's also about having fun. Go have fun!

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Posted by Don Gibson on Friday, February 18, 2005 10:18 PM
PROBLEM is

1960's 4 X 8 layouts with 18" curves make $40 cars and other expensive equipment look 'Toy' like, and suggest's you prefer to 'play with toy's, rather than model (copy) the real thing.

The goal in 'modeling' is trying to simulate the real railroads in operation. You. of course, can do what you wish.

1060's equipment looks more realistic on 1060's track plans.Modern 85' cars need 46" curves to look right. The Tehachapi loop is 14' across or about 84"r.in HO for comparison.
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Posted by stokesda on Friday, February 18, 2005 9:40 PM
I have 2 Bachmann Spectrum 6-axle passenger cars hooked to a 4-8-4 Northern. They all make it around my 18" radius test track just fine. Granted, when the loco hits the turns, it strains a little bit harder [:)]

Now, how does it all look going around those 18" curves?... [:p]

http://www.danielandyoshie.net/Misc%20Pictures/P2160013.JPG

Cheers,

Dan Stokes

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Posted by CP5415 on Friday, February 18, 2005 9:29 PM
Rivarossi & Athearn passenger cars have couplers mounted onto the trucks.
I've had no problems with these cars on 18" curves.

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Posted by fec153 on Friday, February 18, 2005 9:18 PM
O.K. Engines P.O. box 355H Mohawk,N.Y. 13407 Send $3 for cat. Also on net, but I have lost their address. Think it's in Jan. MR.
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I also ran my Daylight consist on 18in. Too much overhang.
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Posted by TurboOne on Friday, February 18, 2005 8:03 PM
Hi Jim,

I thought you could run the trains so I hooked up my 4 car passenger train on my 18 track. Worked fine, no derailments or problems. The cars do hang over more than on my 22s, but they run fine. Give it a try, and enjoy.

Tim
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, February 18, 2005 7:56 PM
Walthers Trainline has those 60' heavyweights. Ther should take 18" radius.
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Passenger cars on 18"radius: is it possible?
Posted by Anonymous on Friday, February 18, 2005 7:49 PM
Okay, okay, I admit I limited myself by using 18" radius on my mainline, and now that I'm considering passenger service, I've painted myself into a corner. [D)][D)][D)][D)][D)][D)]
The question is, are there any manufacturers that make short passenger cars that can operate effectively on such short radii? Were there any really short prototypes used in the U.S. during the transition era?
If I have to suspend reality a bit to get passenger service, I'm willing, but I'd like to stay fairly accurate to prototype if I can.

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