LOL.
I agree with you, but I am afraid that you are fighting a losing battle.
Rich
Alton Junction
AEP528 Obviously nobody uses electric stoves because they're too hard to cook on. https://www.statista.com/chart/29082/most-common-type-of-stove-in-the-us/ Come on mods, this thread truly has absolutely nothing to do with model railroading.
Obviously nobody uses electric stoves because they're too hard to cook on.
https://www.statista.com/chart/29082/most-common-type-of-stove-in-the-us/
Come on mods, this thread truly has absolutely nothing to do with model railroading.
Those numbers are a result of availability more than choice. More recent high density housing is less likely to have been built with a gas infrastructure. Propane cannot be stored in the small backyards of town houses, etc.
Model Railroading, the OP is moving because the cost of living where he is at is too high. Quality of life is directly related to model railroading.
I can afford to build a 1500 sq ft model railroad partly because my Mid Atlantic basement requires no supplemental heat or a/c, has no head knocking ductwork, and my utility costs are low.
That is one reason the OP is moving, to be able to afford model railroading.
Sheldon
BroadwayLionThose were in the days before Home Depot.
Home Depot delivers.
mvlandswI've often wondered why gas, or electric ovens for that matter, are not vented to the outside.
Mine is vented to the outside, and so is my microwave. Almost all new construction does not vent these to the outside, and I also find myself wondering why.
AEP528Come on mods, this thread truly has absolutely nothing to do with model railroading.
This thread started with political commentary, and has gotten worse. I am very surprised it has not been locked.
-Kevin
Living the dream.
mvlandsw I've often wondered why gas, or electric ovens for that matter, are not vented to the outside. That keep any combustion fumes, excess heat, and cooking odors out of the house. A hood over the stove catches only some, but not all of those. Another thought is to use outside air for refridgeration when the temperature is appropiate. Mark
I've often wondered why gas, or electric ovens for that matter, are not vented to the outside. That keep any combustion fumes, excess heat, and cooking odors out of the house. A hood over the stove catches only some, but not all of those.
Another thought is to use outside air for refridgeration when the temperature is appropiate.
Mark
Well larger ranges are but it's not an appliance you just leave on all day so emissions aren't as toxic as ambient air quality. To steer this back to model railroading slightly, there some research done that the 3D printing I do may be harmful if it's done in a living space. While the plastic is corn and sugar based, micro sized polymers can be inhaled and stuck in cells via the blood stream. To date, no reports of people getting sick from 3D printing but if there's enough research to prove a long term effect, you'll start seeing warning stickers like you do on paints and solvents.
Rick
Attuvian1 York1 As far a gas stoves, certain groups will not be happy until there are vitually no open flames anywhere on earth. Yup. Then again, there's the view that the earth itself will end up a flamer. And I'll leave it at that lest the powers that be raise an eyebrow. Attuvian John
York1 As far a gas stoves, certain groups will not be happy until there are vitually no open flames anywhere on earth.
As far a gas stoves, certain groups will not be happy until there are vitually no open flames anywhere on earth.
SeeYou190 BroadwayLion Those were in the days before Home Depot. Home Depot delivers. mvlandsw I've often wondered why gas, or electric ovens for that matter, are not vented to the outside. Mine is vented to the outside, and so is my microwave. Almost all new construction does not vent these to the outside, and I also find myself wondering why. AEP528 Come on mods, this thread truly has absolutely nothing to do with model railroading. This thread started with political commentary, and has gotten worse. I am very surprised it has not been locked. -Kevin
BroadwayLion Those were in the days before Home Depot.
mvlandsw I've often wondered why gas, or electric ovens for that matter, are not vented to the outside.
AEP528 Come on mods, this thread truly has absolutely nothing to do with model railroading.
rrebellIf we can't talk about other things than trains, then the forum is truly doomed.
Our hosts have historically allowed off-topic discussions in the Diner, but poltics is a strictly forbidden topic even there.
SeeYou190I am very surprised it has not been locked.
rrebellEarths temp has been 7 degrees warmer in the past. Trouble is people in their studys base things on recorded history or less than 1000 years, that time is nothing when compaired to earths history and the only reason we know as much as we do is from deep ice which has come and gone many times in earth history.
Mike
SeeYou190Personally, I could never live in one of those communities, with their 1/10 acre lots and driveways too short for a pickup truck.
126' from the garage to the road for me.
My wife's good friend lives three doors away, but she always drives over when she visits.
We rarely lock the doors at our house or cars. B&Es do not happen as the thieves are too lazy to come this far, we all leave our lawn tractors, pressure washers, and other equipment out in the yard for six months then put it away when the weather turns. I have not heard that any neighbour has had something stolen.
Do you want a big train room? I sold my 45-year-old 2000sqft house on a small lot in the city and bought a 5 year-old 4000sqft with a 1200 sqft garage on acres for the same price out in the stix.
I have water in the creek across the street if needed and breakfast, lunch, and dinner are often asleep on the front lawn if the grocery stores run out of food. The wife grows fresh veggies all summer long and the neighbours give us fresh eggs and veggies as well.
The only reason I bought the house was to have room to do the things I wanted, including a trainroom, however, not being surrounded by noise and obnoxious people means the city is a non-starter for me after experiencing such peace and quiet.
Want a lot more bang for the buck, move out of the rat pit to the country.
Brent
"All of the world's problems are the result of the difference between how we think and how the world works."
BATMANMove out of the rat pit to the country.
Well, I certainly do not think I live in a "Rat Pit" as you described.
The rural area is a non-starter for me, sorry. The disadvantages are way too many.
It is a nice place to visit, but it gets old very quickly. There is a lot more to life than being able to kill your own meat and graze for berries.
Water Level RouteOverpopulation may be the issue nobody wants to talk about.
SeeYou190 Our hosts have historically allowed off-topic discussions in the Diner, but poltics is a strictly forbidden topic even there. -Kevin
Where is the diner?