csxnsKevin that is one great looking locomotive.
Thank you Russell.
It is one of two locomotives I used for my unpublished article about detail painting for emphasis.
I hope everyone understood the tounge-in-cheek nature of my post.
-Kevin
Living the dream.
SeeYou190 I know what you guy mean about how frustrating these "Fantasy Schemes" can be. Just look at this model of SGRR locomotive 508: -Photograph by Kevin Parson The prototype for this locomotive had center side louver stampings that were only 17-3/8 of an inch because of a misplaced stamping die in the factory that assembled the doors. The (poorly researched and innacurate) model has the louvers modeled in a scale 17-27/64 of an inch. I don't understand why they couldn't get this detail right with just a little bit of research. However, that detail is correct for locomotive number 505, but 505 had the bell positioned 3/16 of an inch off-center on the short hood. Thus, this model has the right bell position for 508, but the correct louvers for 505. This is unforgiveable. These fantasy schemes simply need to stop. It is ruining the hobby. -Kevin
I know what you guy mean about how frustrating these "Fantasy Schemes" can be.
Just look at this model of SGRR locomotive 508:
-Photograph by Kevin Parson
The prototype for this locomotive had center side louver stampings that were only 17-3/8 of an inch because of a misplaced stamping die in the factory that assembled the doors. The (poorly researched and innacurate) model has the louvers modeled in a scale 17-27/64 of an inch.
I don't understand why they couldn't get this detail right with just a little bit of research.
However, that detail is correct for locomotive number 505, but 505 had the bell positioned 3/16 of an inch off-center on the short hood.
Thus, this model has the right bell position for 508, but the correct louvers for 505. This is unforgiveable.
These fantasy schemes simply need to stop. It is ruining the hobby.
Love your sense of humor.
Sheldon
ATLANTIC CENTRALLove your sense of humor.
Mike
For some reason, a couple of my locomotives have that brass color fantasy scheme. You know, that universal scheme applied by most model manufacturers who couldn't be bothered to research the correct colors. Most of mine have since been "weathered" with spots of tarnish. And the paint shop can never get around to fixing them.
Fred W
fwrightA couple of my locomotives have that brass color fantasy scheme.
I wonder if I could get away with saying this is the standard SGRR steam locomotive paint scheme.
It sure is a fancy-looking scheme!
John-NYBW 498671001948uehgyopo818048571.jpg (1564×1024) (american-rails.com) They say there is a prototype for everything. It seems that is true for unpainted brass locos. Actually this is a CB&Q Northern that was gold plated to help celebrate a couple of anniversaries being celebrated in 1964.
498671001948uehgyopo818048571.jpg (1564×1024) (american-rails.com)
They say there is a prototype for everything. It seems that is true for unpainted brass locos. Actually this is a CB&Q Northern that was gold plated to help celebrate a couple of anniversaries being celebrated in 1964.
Well, Fred and Kevin, here is your prototype.
Wasn't there a 'gold' CB&Q Pacific, too?
Getting back to B&O, what about GM50?
OvermodWasn't there a 'gold' CB&Q Pacific, too?
How about silver? Although a 4-6-4.
Timken_Rods_Fig. 6. by Edmund, on Flickr
OvermodGetting back to B&O, what about GM50?
Camden Station, Baltimore, MD -- One of Five Photos of this Fantrip by Marty Bernard, on Flickr
A Runby at Aberdeen, MD -- One of Five Photos of this Fantrip by Marty Bernard, on Flickr
Gold painted GP40-2 #GM50, Harpers Ferry, WV 05 Nov 72PS by Rick Wright, on Flickr
Thomas Underwood Coll B&O569 by John W. Barriger III National Railroad Library, on Flickr
Regards, Ed
As a rule I'm not a fan of fantasy paint schemes but I have to admit there's some out there that look pretty cool.
"If the New York Central never had a Mohawk in the Pacemaker scheme maybe they should have!"
So much so I'm considering doing a steam locomotive in a fantasy New Jersey Transit scheme, postulating an NJT "pet" steam locomotive for excursions, say in the original NJT "Bluebird" scheme. But I'm not in a rush.
Flintlock76In the original NJT "Bluebird" scheme. But I'm not in a rush.
That sounds like it would look great.
I would consider most of my HO locomotives, steam or diesel, to be in "fantasy" paint schemes, simply because very few of them are based on real ones.
I have a bunch of these, which might be similar to some prototypes, but the paint scheme and lettering is pure fantasy...
Likewise for these....
...and likewise for these...
There are a bunch more, but I do have a few that are non-fantasy...
These two are the first few that got a proper TH&B paint job...
I eventually made (and painted) 66 TH&B diesels, both geeps and switchers, when Atlas finally released their more-to-scale diesels (narrower hoods than the Athearn models) in TH&B colours, followed shortly by similar ones from (I think) Walthers.
Wayne
I personally wouldn't have minded them if they hadn't clogged up HO Collector's website for advertisements for their crap.
For some reason, HO Collector now advertises "future collectibles" which are those stupid "Limited Edition" Novelties.
I come to HO Collector to read about weird stuff like the Lionel Coil Car, not some tacky "Blackbonnet F7" made by Broadway.
The closest thing to a fantasy scheme that I like are the weird John Deere paint schemes Athearn applied on some models. The John Deere Genesis F7 would not be a bad basis for a freelance passenger railroad.
The only fantasy schemes I didn't care for were the political ones done during the 2020 election cycle. As far as I'm concerned politics should be kept OUT of model railroading, this should be a "neutral ground" where all are welcome. Politics has a habit of turning normally laid-back people into werewolves.
But then if those who made those political engines made money on them who am I to judge?
Flintlock76 The only fantasy schemes I didn't care for were the political ones done during the 2020 election cycle. As far as I'm concerned politics should be kept OUT of model railroading, this should be a "neutral ground" where all are welcome. Politics has a habit of turning normally laid-back people into werewolves. But then if those who made those political engines made money on them who am I to judge?
I 100% agree, I would rather not think about the chance that my money may go to a politician I disagree with since usually if a company is running political rolling stock, it's because they support the politician.
I'm looking at you MTH
Great Northern Fan 54I'm looking at you MTH
In all fairness MTH covered both sides, I've seen the examples. Which were the better sellers I have no idea and don't care to know. I still don't like it though.
I take it you're not in the market for the ES44... which adds to the consternation by being the foobie Heritage unit of a foobie ATSF scheme (itself a foobie in a different sense until BNSF does Heritage units!)
tstage You'll find those who like 'em and those who don't care for 'em. I'm somewhat of a purist so I'm in the latter camp. I do like the look of the P5 boxcab though. If a particular fantasy paint scheme on a prototype locomotive appeals to you and that's what you would enjoy running on your layout - go for it! Who cares what others think... Tom
You'll find those who like 'em and those who don't care for 'em. I'm somewhat of a purist so I'm in the latter camp. I do like the look of the P5 boxcab though.
If a particular fantasy paint scheme on a prototype locomotive appeals to you and that's what you would enjoy running on your layout - go for it! Who cares what others think...
Tom
I whole heartedly agree with you. Like Steve Brown said "I.M.R.R."! Personally I would LOVE to get my hands on the Blue Fantasy Scheme Norfolk & Western Y6B steam engine.
OvermodThe issue there is that Rapido already demonstrated the self-fulfilling expensive limited-production collectible craze with that black Amtrak E8
Although Amtrak did that when they painted the thing in the first place.
I specialize in custom models. I have a lot of experience with fantasy paint schemes and I find it cool to modify the locomotives.
I hate foobies. I would never knowingly own one. That being said, this is a large hobby, and there is more than enough ways for everyone to enjoy it. Just because it is not my thing does not mean people who like them should not enjoy them.
An "expensive model collector"