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GP-35s', GP-38-2's and GP40's. When I built my first layout, all of my motive power was Athearn Blue Box Geeps.
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Consider that the original poster wondered what mental image we have when we say "geep".
wjstixMy point was calling a GP40 (for example) a "Geep" is fine, but it's not a "Geep forty". It's a "G.P. Forty".
Some RRers call them a Gee Pee 40. Others Jeep40. Both seems to be used pretty much on the regular. I don't think it's just a railfan thing.
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zugmann wjstix GP30 is the correct model name, "Geep" is just a railfan nickname. We out here in the company call them geeps, too.
wjstix GP30 is the correct model name, "Geep" is just a railfan nickname.
We out here in the company call them geeps, too.
The original version of the SGRR were set in 1968, and the GP-35 was always my favorite. It just looks completely "right" to my eye.
I used the GP-35 on SGRR letterhead for decades. I had more N scale GP-35s than any other locomotive model.
-Kevin
Living the dream.
wjstixGP30 is the correct model name, "Geep" is just a railfan nickname.
I say Alligator RSD-15...most geeps prior to 38 and 40 series, I just really do not care for.
John
I only use "Geep" in the generic sense, like "the train was pulled by three Geeps". I don't use it for a specific engine type, so I would never say the train was pulled by "three Geep 30s". I would say "three G-P-30s" spelling out the G and P letters. GP30 is the correct model name, "Geep" is just a railfan nickname.
But maybe that's just me.
GP7s. For years, my favorite runners on at the club or on our modular layouts was a pair of Atlas Santa Fe zebra striped GP7s. Looked good, ran better.
I also love the GP7s that Santa Fe rebuilt with "Topeka cabs" and chopped noses at Cleburne; although full disclosure, I also love CF7s as well.
hon30critter Sorry, I know the spelling isn't right, but I have to say Willys! (but GP 7s and 9s are a close second. Dave
Sorry, I know the spelling isn't right, but I have to say Willys! (but GP 7s and 9s are a close second.
Dave
Dave, that was the first thing I thought of!
ATLANTIC CENTRAL To my eyes, a GP30 is ugly, a GP7 or GP9 has the simple functional beauty of utility. Sheldon
To my eyes, a GP30 is ugly, a GP7 or GP9 has the simple functional beauty of utility.
Sheldon
Especially if it is not tarted up with a fancy paint scheme. My favorite: a Santa Fe GP7A/B pair in black with zebra stripes.
I may be weird, but GP30 makes me think of Scott Caan.
I think of the four wheel army vehicle of WW2 vintage. To me it's the true geep. Then the little Popey character.
Pete.
ATLANTIC CENTRAL...The 1958 Chevy on the other hand is the most beautiful car GM ever built....
My intention wasn't to denigrate the '58 Chevy (two of my uncles bought them that year), but I mentioned them simply because they remind me of the GP30, just as the GP30 reminds me of those Chevys. I did like the look of the Chevs, but not that diesel.
Wayne
OldEnginemanI seldom (ever?) encountered one that wasn't a pleasure to be on.
I've had a few. But that's due to maintenance (or lack thereof). And rebuilt ones always seem to lose some of their pulling power.
I'm a sucker for anything with gauges over computer screens, and none of that electronic airbrake crap, please. I mostly use 38-2s, so that's what I think of geep.
NKP_479_RockyRiver by Edmund, on Flickr
NYC_GP7_5660-5656 by Edmund, on Flickr
9/74, EL GP7 1401 by OHFalcon72, on Flickr
Works for me —
Regards, Ed
doctorwayne ndbprr GP30 for me. The only one with some style. BEAUSABRE Ugly as a blind date I agree...they always reminded me of the '58 Chevy. JDawg When I say Geep, you say… I say Sweep... ...which referred to locos like 1364 (an SW1200RS) at above left, which were converted to locos like 7104, which kept the SW1200RS cab, but replaced the locos' hood with one from a Geep. The SW1200RS is my favourite GMD diesel, while the "Sweep" is as ugly as a mud fence. Wayne
ndbprr GP30 for me. The only one with some style.
GP30 for me. The only one with some style.
BEAUSABRE Ugly as a blind date
I agree...they always reminded me of the '58 Chevy.
JDawg When I say Geep, you say…
When I say Geep, you say…
I say Sweep...
...which referred to locos like 1364 (an SW1200RS) at above left, which were converted to locos like 7104, which kept the SW1200RS cab, but replaced the locos' hood with one from a Geep.
The SW1200RS is my favourite GMD diesel, while the "Sweep" is as ugly as a mud fence.
Well beauty really is in the eye of the beholder.
The 1958 Chevy on the other hand is the most beautiful car GM ever built.
But then again, when it comes to automobiles, I like these as well:
While beautiful, the 1958 Chevy was no where near as practical as the Checker was.
My mind goes with the GP7/9 locomotives. Although I love the GP38-2 and GP60 that my mind doesn't recognize it as a geep.
All the years of railroading brainwashing called the GP7/9 version as the official geep locomotive.
Amtrak America, 1971-Present.
The best GPs were the GP38 and GP40 series -- smooth, reliable horses for the working railroader. I seldom (ever?) encountered one that wasn't a pleasure to be on.
GP 30 - My favorite also.
Joe
GP38-2, Late series, no DB, Paper Air Filters + a Plough
"It's the South Shore Line, Jim - but not as we know it".
BEAUSABREUgly as a blind date
I agree...they always reminded me of the '58 Chevy, though.
ndbprrHome»Model Railroader»Forums»General Discussion (Model Railroader) New Reply Fill out the form below to create a new reply. ndbprr wrote the following post an hour ago: GP30 for me. The only one with some style.
As a kid, growing-up in Hamilton, Ontario, I saw my first GMD TH&B GP-7 in 1950, not realising that it was the death knell for steam, especially the road's two Berkshires, the only ones in Canada.In 1954, 3 GP-9s arrived, intended for passenger service. The 7s were freight locos, usually operating short-hood first, while the 9s, passenger locos, ran long-hood forward. When passenger service began to decline, the 9s became freight locos, while two RDCs took over the remaining passenger runs (I had a very entertaining ride on the RDCs, near the end of their service).I later decided that I wanted a couple of TH&B geeps for my layout, but as far as I was aware, there was nobody producing them in HO scale.I set out to make my own, using Athearn geeps, and many self-taken photos of the real ones, to make sure that my models would be accurately represented.At that time, Floquil had recently release their new Polly S paint, so I decided to try it, mixing various colours until I had dead-on matches for both the maroon and cream colours used on the prototype - the swatch of paint, applied with a brush onto coloured photos of the real diesels, was indiscernable, unless the photo was held at an angle under good lighting.I brush painted the two locos, using both colours in-turn, along with masking tape, and using C-D-S dry transfers as masking devices for the contrasting colours. Multiple applications of paint were required. At that time, there were no dry transfers available for the TH&B logo on the cabs, so I did them freehand, using a brush.When the locos were done, I was pleased with the results, but wanted to see what the guy at the hobbyshop thought of them.He did seem pretty enthusiastic, and asked if I would mind if he used them for a week or two as display models. I was a little hesitant, but okayed it, as long as the locos were not handled by the customers.
A couple weeks later, and a bit anxious about my locos, I returned to the shop to pick them up. As I was placing them carefully into their box, the sales guy ducked under the counter and came back up with a dozen boxed, and undecorated GP-9s. "Could-ja do these? You could make some pretty-good dough!"If I had been aware of what custom painters charged, I probably could have retired young. Anyway, this procedure continued to repeat, and I was finally talked-into buying an airbrush to allow speedier results. I quickly learned that it wasn't very much faster than brush-painting, but I did eventually learn how to use it properly, and nowadays, prefer airbrushing (in most cases) over brushwork.
I went on to produce a total of 15 HO TH&B switchers (NW-2s and SW-9s), one in brass and another in N scale, and 25 GP-7s, and 26 GP-9s...
...and was relieved when both Atlas and Proto-2000 released their versions of TH&B diesels.
I also did several hundred freight and passenger cars (mostly kits) for both myself and a couple other hobby shops, and then later, not only for myself, but also for friends.I actually was unaware of doing so much work for others until I glanced though a journal where I had recorded much of that activity.
I still do model work for friends, but not for money...I was appalled when I learned what some professional painters were charging...for me, a satisfied owner was reward enough.
Here's my two original TH&B geeps...
...and a couple of on-layout views...
If someone says (or writes) "it was a short train, just one Geep and three cars," or "the grain elevator's own locomotive is a Geep," or "with 18" radius curves you have to be satisfied with running Geeps" ----- if I see or hear things like that I think GP7 or GP9. I would not think GP60 or GP38-2.
Now, GP18s or GP20s -- I wouldn't assume those but I'd nod OK if told that is what the other person was referring to. Once you are beyond GP20 I think of the actual locomotive designation rather than the word Geep.
Dave Nelson
My first HO engine was a Milwaukee GP9. I run 4 of them now, although that first one, an Athearn belt-drive, is just a sound dummy.
I have 1 GP9M, a Walthers Trainline model that was quite a bargain, although I had to add a decoder and even a rear headlight. These engines were produced from older original GP9s by making the nose end chopped for better visibility. I looked up my engine number in the Milwaukee roster and found the engine number it was made from. I repainted and redecaled my old dummy engine to be that now-gone locomotive, and I typically run the two as a consist. The Trainline model, incidentally, has the old oversized dimensions of my original Athearns, not the more correct hood width of something like my P2K geeps.
It takes an iron man to play with a toy iron horse.