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Have you seen any good train movies?

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Posted by John-NYBW on Thursday, December 2, 2021 8:31 AM

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I did see how Ed Ames jumped back when he saw how bad he missed after I watched it again John.  Johnny had to grab his arm as he looked like he was leaving.

This is considered one of the most iconic scenes in the history of television. Ed McMahon retells it on a PBS program about the history of television.

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CNN did a retrospective on the 1960s and Dick Cavett, who was a writer on the Tonight Show at the time, gives his perspective.

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Posted by Autonerd on Thursday, December 2, 2021 5:29 PM

Let's not forget Tough Guys from 1986!

It stars Kirk Douglas and Burt Lancaster as two old cons who have just been released after a 30-year sentence for robbing a Southern Pacific train -- and decide to do it again. It takes a while to get there, but the last 20 minutes has some great action with SP 4449 and her Daylight cars, with real-life engineer Doyle McCormack playing himself. (Apparently it was easier to train an engineer to act than vice-versa.)

I remember reading about the movie in Trains magazine. For the last scene, they built a replica so exact that reportedly the train crew had to walk back over the hill to make sure 4449 was still there. Years ago, driving LA to Phoenix, we stopped for a bathroom break and I happened to peek in an old building -- and saw a life-size replica of the top of 4449! I've always wondered if it was from the movie. And now I wish I could remember where I saw it...

There's also The Cassandra Crossing, a 1970s glitzy disaster film that takes place on a Swiss train. Good fun to see Ava Gardner and her young lover, played by Martin Sheen.

And what about the original Taking of Pelham 1-2-3 from 1974? Another favorite of mine.

Great suggestions here and I'm going to check out a bunch of them!

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Posted by gmpullman on Thursday, December 2, 2021 5:56 PM

Autonerd
Let's not forget Tough Guys from 1986!

 Doyle_M by Edmund, on Flickr

I met Doyle McCormack in Conneaut, Oh. while he was still working for the Nickel Plate (OK, N&W). He was just finishing up on the restoration of the 759 and I was involved with the GTW 4070 at the time.

Great fellow to know!

 

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Posted by OldEngineman on Thursday, December 2, 2021 9:56 PM

Track fiddler wrote: "Who is Lucius Beebe Overmod?"

Heh. This brings to mind the time Pete Townsend was drinking in a bar, and met a young punk rocker who had never heard of The Who. It's where he got the idea for the song "Who Are You?"...  Cool

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Posted by Track fiddler on Friday, December 3, 2021 10:00 AM

Good morning

I didn't know the Ed Ames clip was the longest laugh In comedy John.  Amazing how what he thought was a bad mistake at the time became a world recordIndifferent

Tough guys and Cassandra Crossing sound like a couple of good ones AaronYes  I would imagine teaching an engineer to act would be easier than teaching an actor all the terminology and how to act like an engineer.

That's cool you got to meet Doyle McCormack Ed.  I would imagine an engineer gets to know his machine and how it works inside and out after operating it all those years.  A good candidate for knowledge on restoring them I would also think as well.  It's got to be tougher dealing with all the rust and seized up parts then building one new from the start.

I never knew that's how Pete Townsend of The Who came up with the concept of their song "Who Are You" OldEngineman.  There seems to be a lot of stories on how artists came up with their songs.  I heard Aerosmith came up with "Walk This Way" from Marty Feldman in Young Frankenstein when he said Walk This Way with his sliding limp and his shoulder twisted from the hump on his back.  Marty Feldman didn't even have to try to be funny, Just those beady eyes were good enoughLaugh

Thanks for the info on Lucius Beebe.

 

 

 

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Posted by John-NYBW on Friday, December 3, 2021 2:06 PM

Track fiddler

Good morning

I didn't know the Ed Ames clip was the longest laugh In comedy John.  Amazing how what he thought was a bad mistake at the time became a world recordIndifferent

Ed Ames was a very accomplished singer/actor for many years but will probably best be remembered for that one errant tomahawk throw. He's still with us at age 94 and probably still laughing about it. I know I do every time I see that clip. 

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Posted by caldreamer on Friday, December 3, 2021 3:04 PM

Unstoppable is good in that it gives the average layman a good idea as to how the interaction of trainmasters with yard crews, dispatchers and yard crews.  It also shows how one person (the VP of train operations ) can totally screw up a recoverable error.

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Posted by drgwcs on Friday, December 3, 2021 5:12 PM

A couple that have not been mentioned Night Passage with Jimmy Stewart and Denver and Rio Grande- both with plenty of narrow gauge and Colorado scenery.

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Posted by softail86mark on Saturday, December 4, 2021 7:35 AM

How about Timberjack (1955) with Sterling Hayden?

Lots of scenes of logging trains with Shays. I forget the plot at the moment but I remember the trains.

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Posted by John-NYBW on Saturday, December 4, 2021 8:57 AM

I liked Unstoppable until the messed it up by having the train tip up off the rails as it rounded a curve too fast. I also think I remember Denzel Washington say something about his engine not being able to go as fast in reverse but I only saw it once so I'm not positive about that. 

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Posted by caldreamer on Saturday, December 4, 2021 10:41 AM

There were two other screw ups in the dialogue of unstoppable.  When they are leaving the yard Denzel Washington asks how many cars will we have and the conductor says 20.  When they are pulling out of the zinc plant he asks how many cars do we have and the conductor says 20.  "Then why are there 5 extra cars?"

The other is when the Connie the trainmaster asks what engine is he using?  The reply is 5000 horsepower.  An SD40-2 which you see him in has 3000 HP.  Is that artistic licence?? 

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Posted by Track fiddler on Saturday, December 4, 2021 3:56 PM

Evening

Always loved the Narrow Gauge and scenery with the Denver and Rio Grande drgwcs.  I plan to take a trip there one day and sounds like a couple more good ones to watch.

Did someone say ShayStick out tongue  Always been my favorite powerhorse in the logging industry.  I don't know about HO but in N scale, just like DMIR stuff, those things are impossible to find.  And if you do, they're charging way too much for used stuff.  I have a class B 30-40 ton Showcase Miniature kit parked in my cart with a separate sold motor.  Spendy but I think I'm getting closer to pulling the ripcord.  Definitely going to check out that Timberjack movie Mark.

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Hollywood always seems like they have to over-do things John.  From what I've been hearing about Unstoppable is no exception.  Ever notice any time a vehicle crashes or goes off a cliff in a movie someone always yells "She's Gonna Blow" and then it blows up twice.  I would imagine a lot of folks must have two gas tanksLaugh

You're not supposed to notice things like that caldreamerLaugh  I've always found it kind of entertaining and amusing finding the screw-ups in films.  I doubt Hollywood was planning on any train buffs watching their movies when they produced themSmile, Wink & Grin  Now I'm probably going to have to watch Unstoppable after-all.  Curiosity has got the best of me to see the farfetched Teeter-Totter seen and the screw-ups.

 

Thanks for posting and have a great evening gentlemenWink

 

 

 

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Posted by softail86mark on Saturday, December 4, 2021 4:39 PM

Track fiddler

...Definitely going to check out that Timberjack movie Mark.

Those are Nice bikesYes...

That looks just like my bike when I bought it, except the color, of course.

I think you'll like "Timberjack."

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Posted by hbgatsf on Sunday, December 5, 2021 8:29 AM

caldreamer

There were two other screw ups in the dialogue of unstoppable.  When they are leaving the yard Denzel Washington asks how many cars will we have and the conductor says 20.  When they are pulling out of the zinc plant he asks how many cars do we have and the conductor says 20.  "Then why are there 5 extra cars?"

The other is when the Connie the trainmaster asks what engine is he using?  The reply is 5000 horsepower.  An SD40-2 which you see him in has 3000 HP.  Is that artistic licence?? 

 

The comment about the SD40-2 is definately artistic license.  We discussed it in another thread.

The comment about the number of cars isn't.  They are supposed to get 20 cars.  The conductor unknowingly puts on 25.  He thinks there are 20 until it is pointed out.

A movie nobody has mentioned is The Great Train Robbery.  RIP Sean Connery.

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Posted by nycmodel on Sunday, December 5, 2021 9:49 AM

OK, it wasn't a movie but the Downton Abbey station scenes from the TV series are special to me. Filmed at the Horsted Keynes station on the Bluebell Railway in the UK, my wife and I have walked the same platforms numerous times.

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Posted by Bayway Terminal on Sunday, December 5, 2021 11:18 AM

1.The Train with Burt Lancaster 

2.The Great Train Robbery with Sean Connery

3.The Taking of Pelham One Two Three with Walter Matthau & Robert Shaw

 4.The Denver and Rio Grande with Sterling Hayden 

 5. Runaway Train with John Voit & Eric Roberts

 6. The Union Pacific with Joel McCrea, Robert Preston & Barbara Stanwick

 7. The Train Robbers with John Wayne

 8. Butch Cassidy & The Sundance Kidd with Paul Newman Robert Redford 

 9. Murder on the Orient Express with David Suchet

10. The General with Buster Keaton "silient film"

11. Empeior of the North with Earnest Borgnine & Lee Marvin

12. Box Car Bertha with David Carradine & Karen Black 

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Posted by Bayway Terminal on Sunday, December 5, 2021 11:19 AM

1.The Train with Burt Lancaster 

2.The Great Train Robbery with Sean Connery

3.The Taking of Pelham One Two Three with Walter Matthau & Robert Shaw

 4.The Denver and Rio Grande with Sterling Hayden 

 5. Runaway Train with John Voit & Eric Roberts

 6. The Union Pacific with Joel McCrea, Robert Preston & Barbara Stanwick

 7. The Train Robbers with John Wayne

 8. Butch Cassidy & The Sundance Kidd with Paul Newman Robert Redford 

 9. Murder on the Orient Express with David Suchet

10. The General with Buster Keaton "silient film"

11. Empeior of the North with Earnest Borgnine & Lee Marvin

12. Box Car Bertha with David Carradine & Karen Black 

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Posted by nycmodel on Sunday, December 5, 2021 12:58 PM

Technically a movie since it was shown in the theaters as a short, is the 1929 Our Gang "Railroadin'". Great scenes of a steam engine and engine facilities. Of course railroads were featured in any number of other Our Gang shorts plus numerous Three Stooges and Laurel and Hardy shorts.

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Posted by Track fiddler on Monday, December 6, 2021 5:38 AM

Good morning

I kind of sensed that 86 Softail would be like yours Mark, you have good taste in bikesYes

The Great Train Robbery was a movie l enjoyed hbgatsf.  I always loved Sean Connery's work.  What a great actor!  I really liked his movie Finding Forester.

I'll have to check out that Downton Abbey series nycmodel.  It's always cool to see some place you have been on TV.  Kinda makes you feel like a part of it.

A lot of your favorites on your list seem to be favorites of others here as well Bayway Terminal.  I always loved The Little Rascals.  That dog Petey was always doing something funny.  I'll be looking for that episode "Railroadin".  Sounds like it would be a Hoot! just by the way they spelled itLaugh

 

It turned out there's a lot more Train Movies than I thought. 

Thanks everyone for your participation and all your suggestions.  The thread was funYes

 

 

 

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Posted by Capitol Ltd on Monday, December 6, 2021 9:39 AM

I haven't seen this one listed yet (maybe I missed  it), but I always liked Von Ryan's Express, from 1965, starring Frank Sinatra.  Lots of good European train shots.

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Posted by Overmod on Monday, December 6, 2021 11:39 AM

Ever notice any time a vehicle crashes or goes off a cliff in a movie someone always yells "She's Gonna Blow" and then it blows up twice.  I would imagine a lot of folks must have two gas tanks

When I was 8 years old I acquired almost a horror of Chryslers.  They were featured in many adventure TV shows of the era, and not one of them crashed or overturned without immediately erupting into a sheet of flame.  Why would anyone want a make of car that chronically did that?

 

 

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Monday, December 6, 2021 8:31 PM

Honestly, I'm not sure I've ever seen a bad train movie.

It takes an iron man to play with a toy iron horse. 

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Posted by PC101 on Monday, December 6, 2021 9:12 PM

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John-NYBW

VHS? Isn't that from the Stone Age? I have a closet full of VHS tapes and a VHS player but I can't remember how long it has been since I watched anything on it. It's been at least ten years. Probably longer. I don't know if it even works or the tapes are any good. I had the Time/Life series about WWII on tapes but the last time I tried to look at one the tape reel seemed to be fused together and wouldn't play. One of these days I'm going to throw them all out and the tape player and free up some closet space.  

 

 

Does anyone still have their old View Master?  Laugh

 

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Yes and the ''picture wheels''.

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Posted by PC101 on Monday, December 6, 2021 9:35 PM

Not really a movie but a TV series I watched back around '67. IRON HORSE the B P S & D. Ben Calhoun won the train in a poker game, the Buffalo Pass, Scalplock & Defiance Railroad. 

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Posted by John-NYBW on Monday, December 6, 2021 11:04 PM

Capitol Ltd

I haven't seen this one listed yet (maybe I missed  it), but I always liked Von Ryan's Express, from 1965, starring Frank Sinatra.  Lots of good European train shots.

--MARK

 

Good one. Don't know how it got overlooked until now. 

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Posted by John-NYBW on Monday, December 6, 2021 11:14 PM

PC101

Not really a movie but a TV series I watched back around '67. IRON HORSE the B P S & D. Ben Calhoun won the train in a poker game, the Buffalo Pa

ss, Scalplock & Defiance Railroad. 

 

It only lasted 9 episodes which was probably more than it deserved but does anyone remember 1979's Supertrain. 

Supertrain (TV Series 1979) - IMDb

It was 26 feet wide. 

Supertrain (1979) (imdb.com)

The same season there was a show about a time traveling train called Time Express starring Vincent Price. It only lasted 4 episodes. 

Time Express (TV Series 1979) - IMDb

Needless to say, the networks didn't try the fantasy train genre again.

Now for a really good series, James West's private railroad car figured prominently in the 1960s series The Wild, Wild, West. 

H&I | A brief history of the Wild Wild West's most overlooked star, its locomotive train (handitv.com) 

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Posted by Track fiddler on Tuesday, December 7, 2021 1:40 PM

Afternoon 

I got the 403 forbidden message twice this morning.

If Von Ryan's Express has Frank Sinatra in it, that's enough for me to watch it.  I have all of Frank's music for when I'm in the easy listening mood.  He is in my large music collection right next to Tony Bennett.

All the Chryslers were bursting into flames upright on all four wheels Overmod?  That doesn't surprise me.  I do enjoy the screw-ups more than the farfetched stuff though.  Check out the scene with all the damage on Schwarzenegger's Porsche.

https://youtu.be/d85M2-8ilvQ

Coincidental to your post but there is a serious problem with the Chrysler corporation's older Jeeps from what I have read. (Various models 93 to 07)  Many have burst into flames with fatalities when they are rear ended.  The sad thing is apparently they are not being recalled and there is still tons of them on the road.

Come to think of it, I don't remember ever seeing a train movie I didn't like either Mister B.

I never caught the Iron Horse series PC101.  If Ben won the train in a poker game, I wouldn't Annie up with a guy like thatLaugh

The Wild Wild West was on every Sunday night here for quite a while John.  They replaced it with Black Sheep Squadron recently which was okay by me.  I like Robert Conrad in both.

 

Have a great afternoon gentlemen.

 

 

 

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Posted by maxman on Tuesday, December 7, 2021 2:14 PM

Overmod
When I was 8 years old I acquired almost a horror of Chryslers.

Were you watching the movie CHRISTINE?

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Posted by John-NYBW on Tuesday, December 7, 2021 2:43 PM

Track fiddler

Afternoon 

I got the 403 forbidden message twice this morning.

If Von Ryan's Express has Frank Sinatra in it, that's enough for me to watch it.  I have all of Frank's music for when I'm in the easy listening mood.  He is in my large music collection right next to Tony Bennett.

Sinatra was underrated as an actor. I believe he won the Best Supporting Actor Oscar for his first acting role in From Here to Eternity.

I remember Larry King interviewing Paul McCartney and asking him about Sinatra. He said he was a fan of Sinatra even though he didn't appreciate him when he was younger. That kind of sums up my feelings too. A few years ago I bought a 2 CD set of Sinatra's best songs. Most singers end up having a signature song. Sinatra had a whole career of signature songs. Everybody has their own favorite. Mine is My Way.

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Posted by John-NYBW on Tuesday, December 7, 2021 3:44 PM

This Is the Best War Movie of All Time (msn.com)

Just saw this slideshow of somebody's list of the 50 greatest War movies of all time. Von Ryan's Express was #47 and The Train was #19.

It had all my favorites although some of them I would have had higher. I have never seen #1 in its entirety. Just clips here and there.

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