Re Ed's pic above: "FDR 1945 Hyde Park"...
The pic is actually at Breakneck Ridge showing a northbound train. You'll note that the numbers on the automatic signals indicate MP "54.3". Hyde Park is about 25 miles up the road.
Only two tracks there today. Ran many freights through those tunnels in my time...
SeeYou190That is the park at the top of Lookout Mountain in Chattanooga. The Tennessee River is snaking around in the background.
I should have guessed! My kids loved going to Rock City every time we traveled near there. It is an impressive place.
York1 John
York1That's an impressive picture. Where was it taken? It looks like if your family takes several steps back, they will go downhill pretty fast!
That is the park at the top of Lookout Mountain in Chattanooga. The Tennessee River is snaking around in the background.
The picture was taken in November of 1995.
Yes, if they took a step back, it is a long way down. There is a fence in that location now.
If I remember correctly, that is the last trip we took in the Grand Marquis before we gave it to our oldest daughter.
-Kevin
Living the dream.
SeeYou190As I have gone through hundreds, maybe thousands of family pictures, I finally found one... and only one... of my wife and all three of our girls.
That's an impressive picture. Where was it taken? It looks like if your family takes several steps back, they will go downhill pretty fast!
As I have gone through hundreds, maybe thousands of family pictures, I finally found one... and only one... of my wife and all three of our girls together.
This shot is said to be 1900. The fortress in the background is the MD Penitentiary
Jason Shron is a forum member and he likes busses, this is 1950
Henry
COB Potomac & Northern
Shenandoah Valley
Howdy, Everybody.
Regarding the 1900-1950 time frame. That is a lot of years, and very much railroad activity happened in that period.
Thanks to those who posted very intersting photos for 1900-1950. Kevin, John, York 1, MLC, Ed, Brent, David, and anybody I missed. Much appraciated.
John York 1. ... Good you could see 4014. I saw it in Utah in May of 2019. We are thinking of seeing it near the end of August when it will be in southeast MO and southern IL. ... Regarding my gremlins, more stuff happened than I wanted to explain here. Embarrassing.
Kevin .... The ferry to Key West appears to be a good service. ... Your garage looks very full. My garage tool box is muc hsmaller and has all I need.
As for 1900 to 1950.
Here is my contribution. CB&Q operated 2-6-6-2's on its Deadwood Branch which is in the corner of South Dakota in the Black Hills. ... Here is a photo and information I found in the Internet Archive .
Quoting:
Chicago Burlington & Quincy Railroad 2-6-6-2 Class T-2 4100 at Denver, Colorado on October 23, 1948, photographer unknown, print by Gordon C. Bassett, Chuck Zeiler collection. Number 4100 was built by Baldwin in February 1910 (c/n 34230) and retired in August 1950. The CB&Q had 10 Class T-2 locomotives delivered in 1910, numbers 4100-4109, built as coal burners. The coal bunkers were hinged and could be tilted to force the coal forward as the supply was depleted. The design was known as a Ryan and Johnson coal pusher, and the tilting segment can be seen along the diagonal line at the forward part of the tender. In 1919 the U.S. Forest Service required locomotives operating in the Black Hills of South Dakota to be oil burners, and number 4101 was the first so modified. Eventually all but three of the T-2's were converted to burn oil by 1927, although 4100 was briefly converted back to coal when assigned to the Beardstown Division. The sand dome behind the stack was added by the CB&Q during the late 1920's to most of the T-2's.
Everybody : ..... Have a good evening.
GARRY
HEARTLAND DIVISION, CB&Q RR
EVERYWHERE LOST; WE HUSTLE OUR CABOOSE FOR YOU
gmpullmanIf I had one wish granted me before passing it would have been to sit in on one of the late night chats between these two leaders, FDR tending the drinks, Mr. Churchill enjoying a cigar while regailing stories of days gone by.
That would be amazing. I would join you, and have the time of my life.
York1 That reminds me of another Florida location -- I've always wanted to take a boat out to the Dry Tortugas National Park to see Ft. Jefferson.
There are three National Parks in Florida. I have not visited two of them, Biscayne and Dry Tortugas.
I am not a diver, so I might never make it to either one.
My understanding is that both parks are amazing under the surface.
I have snorkled in John Pennekamp state park in Key Largo many times. It has become less impressive through the years as the reef has been dying. I remember in the 1980s it was as colorful as a circus parade.
The last time I was there it was mostly gray and sickly. Visibility and water clarity have been getting worse for a long time.
PM RailfanThen I noticed a spray booth and workbench.
That workbench dates back to the 1950s. I bought it at an estate auction for about $100.00 over twenty years ago.
I replaced the legs with modern Edsal legs so I could have outlets in the front.
The maple butcher-block work top has the most wonderful aged and distressed surface. It is lovely, and none of my kids want it.
PM RailfanKevin) I wasn't liking your garage pic too much. Reason - theres no BUICK GN wrapped in bubble wrap parked in there next to the retired toolbox.
If there was to be a car in the garage, it would be either a 1966 Mercury S55 like I had in High School, or a low-rider 1975 Mercury Grand Marquis Coupe with a 460.
This one came up for sale not too long ago, and was very tempting.
Good afternoon Diners. Thanks for the breakfast, John. It will be Brunch here.
John. It is thanks to the 'army' of volunteers that have saved a large number of locomotives etc.
Steam on the Boness & Kinneil Heritage Railway.
A nice surprise outside the Locomotive shed at the Bo'ness and Kinneil Railway and still in steam after returning from one of its rail tours the LNER Peppercorn 4-6-2 Class A1 60163 Tornado steam locomotive built by the A1 Steam Locomotive Trust. Also in steam that day J94 Austerity Locomotive 0-6-0ST NCB No.19 in a green livery Built by Hunslet Engine Co Leeds in 1954 (Works No.3818). Acquired from NCB Comrie Colliery Fife The locomotive was supplied new to the NCB Area 7 (East Fife) at the Michael Colliery. It was overhauled at the Central Workshops, Dysart, in 1965, then returned to the Michael. After the disaster there, it was transferred to Wellesley Coal Preparation Plant where it remained until 1971, when it made its final move in NCB service to Comrie Colliery. At the end of the War, seventy five of the 0-6-0ST austerity locomotives passed to the British main line railways, and others were absorbed into industrial service. Further examples, like Nos.5 and 19 at Bo'ness, were built later, in the 1950s. There are four examples in all at Bo'ness, all of which were used by the National Coal Board in Scotland. These are No.17 (built by Hunslet in 1943), No.7 (built by W.G.Bagnall in 1945), No.19 (built by Hunslet in 1954) and No.5 (built by Hunslet in 1955). last but not least also in steam today NCB No.6 in a green livery built by Andrew Barclay of Kilmarnock as No. 2219 in 1946 and belongs to the Prestongrange Industrial Museum the loco was repaired and works at the Bo'ness railway NCB No. 6 - In traffic, as yard shunter.
Two A4s cross the Atlantic.
David
To the world you are someone. To someone you are the world
I cannot afford the luxury of a negative thought
Heartland Division CB&QYesterday, I showed the model railroad to vistors. Our neighbors came with their daughter and her husband along with two grandkids. The layout had been working perfectly for several days, but the gremlins came out and stirred things up.
Garry, when I first started a layout, I read how things didn't work correctly when visitors came. Now that I have a working layout, I see that it actually's true. Things run perfectly until you want to show them off.
TF, do I remember that you wrote that you are headed out for some vacation time again? Have a good relaxing time.
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Everyone can join me for a big breakfast this morning. Bacon, eggs, bacon, hashbrowns, sausage, bacon, and coffee.
Good morning, diners. Bacon, eggs, and coffee please, Brunhilda.
Life is just about back to normal here. Family is gone, no vacations in the near future, and it's hot and humid. We are nervous because we're babysitting a neighbor's dog, but that will end Wednesday. Several doctor's appts and we can take the rest of the month off.
Charlie, that's interesting that you drove to Key West back then. That's quite a trip, especially in a new Nova!
Brent, I'm sure you enjoyed helping with the baseball teams. I've never coached baseball, but did coach some coed softball teams of teens. I had to break the boys of the idea that they would hit a homerun everytime they were up to bat.
Kevin, that's probably a neat ferry ride to Key West. That reminds me of another Florida location -- I've always wanted to take a boat out to the Dry Tortugas National Park to see Ft. Jefferson. I doubt at this stage of life if I will ever get to do that:
MLC, that's a pretty neat picture of the bridge being built. It's amazing that a bridge this size and age was moved and still functions.
MisterBeasley, that ferry ride would be a nightmare to me. I hate closed-in spaces like that -- I think I would feel trapped.
Ed, that's neat that your wife is visiting here. Sterling is another of those typical little towns founded by the railroad with a few churches, a few businesses, and a main street a block from the tracks. Salt-of-the-earth prairie people. I believe I used to know someone who lived not far from there.
Dave, I'm a Churchill admirer, too. Like Abe Lincoln, he seems to be one of those men born for a specific purpose at a specific time, and the world would be completely different if they had not been there.
PM, that car must be special. Maybe a guy's wife is making him get rid of his layout, and this is his way of saying, "OK, I've got the stuff listed on Ebay. I can't help it if no one wants to buy it."
David, I've mentioned before that I sure am impressed about how England preserves their railroad hertitage. Those are impressive and well-kept locomotives.
Speaking of politicians riding the rails, here's a photo of Teddy Roosevelt campaigning from the rear platform in Alliance, Nebraska. He was running for Vice-President in 1900.
Have a great day, everyone.
PM Railfan A couple of months ago i remarked on coming across an ad for a $5,000 plus Lionel Berkshire. Still dont know why a model train is worth more than a car.
Hey, why not a few lengths of M-E rail to go with that order? Only $3,042.99 + $250 shipping.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/294216638431?hash=item4480ad9fdf:g:rU0AAOSwlWNgvzd9
On sale, too, 7% off! Stock up!
hon30critterGreat modelling Ed! I'm not sure if Churchill was quite that corpulent but I'm splitting hairs.
He's standing in unflattering light, Dave. Makes him look a little more rotund than in real life!
US1_plus by Edmund, on Flickr
I'm also a great admirer of the Churchill-FDR relationship. Things would have surely been quite different had those two not have been the close friends they were.
I heard the story when Mr. Churchill had stepped out of the bath and confronted FDR he was actually in his alltogether.
"You see, Mr. President, I've nothing to hide."
I've seen many documentaries and newsreels on both gentlemen. You can not be a student of one without understanding the relationship of the other.
I sure recall seeing a newsreel of Winston out with the people of London after a particularly nasty bombing. It nearly brought tears to my eyes. Mr. Churchill was a truly compassionate person. Likewise, FDR calmed a nation with his Fireside Chats.
If I had one wish granted me before passing it would have been to sit in on one of the late night chats between these two leaders, FDR tending the drinks, Mr. Churchill enjoying a cigar while regailing stories of days gone by.
That is the reason I HAD to have a model of the Ferdinand Magellan. My ultimate goal would be to have a complete train as it was dispatched from Warm Springs, Georgia, through Washington D.C., and on to New York — then up the Hudson River to Hyde Park on that April day in 1945.
FDR_1945_Hyde_Park by Edmund, on Flickr
NYCRR Photo
I have all the cars and the Hudson locomotive, just need to make that last car, the Conneaut, (A city near me in Ohio, BTW) which carried Franklin Roosevelt's casket since the 3" thick window glass couldn't easily be removed from the Ferdinand Magellan to get the coffin inside.
This should all fit in to the theme of 1900 to 1950 events for the Diner
Regards, Ed
Good morning Diners. A quick visit.
'Richboro' built 1917 on the An Valley Heritage Railway
Southern Railway Battle of Britain Class locomotive 34051 'Winston Churchill' built 1946 now at 'Locomotion', Shildon, County Durham.
Hello Railfans!
Top of the evening to yas! Hello again folks, passing through on my way to raid the fridge before the sandman visits. Couple of things of interest to pass along before i grab the last piece of choco cake.
Batman) Id have to agree with you the panorama shot of CPRs Vancouver coaling trestle, that is an awesome shot! I am curious though - why the bracing is only one way? Not that it would happen, but if it did.... seems like that would fall like a stack of dominoes.
The piping in the turntable pit was interesting too. Hadnt seen that before. And as much snow as Michigan gets, Id thought i would have seen it on the PM. Both great shots!
Ed) Ive said it before but you seem to have a knack for posting shots I like to see. The 'Detroit Tunnels' made my day. Reminds me of the triple crossing in south Richmond Va. I know the Railroads hated it, but i love a conjested looking area.
Your pics of the Obs. car gave me an idea for a future Diner theme.... famous cars. We usually glorify a proud locomotive, but rarely do you see fanfare over a certain car/s.
Kevin) I wasn't liking your garage pic too much. Reason - theres no BUICK GN wrapped in bubble wrap parked in there next to the retired toolbox. Then I noticed a spray booth and workbench. Silly me.... alls well now!
Best wishes to your SIL on a most speedy of recoveries!
John York) Ya lucky dog you! Thats a loco you wont ever see around here. Or any steam for that matter. NS country ya know - they hate steam (and Railfans)!
Im not a fan of anything west of the Mississippi, but for UP's steam program.... I been thinking if I could actually get away from here, that would definately be on the list!
Now if only someone had the cahoonas to restore an Allegheny!
Lastly) A couple of months ago i remarked on coming across an ad for a $5,000 plus Lionel Berkshire. Still dont know why a model train is worth more than a car.
A month ago I sent my younger brother a screenshot of an ad for a $700 TyCo train set. The standard 1 loco, 3 cars, circle of track and the ever popular gold transformer with the sliding throttle. Who knew???? Had I known, Id have kept mine and bought more!
Tonight, i found this.....
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Walthers-Proto-85-P-S-Dorm-Diner-C-O-RBLT-Plan-4165-Blue-Ridge-Club-Geo-Wash-/114921732284?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0
Now, most of you know these are the colors of my flag - so i took a look. But what i dont get is... is this a one off model? Did Walthers make one out of gold and not tell me? Does it serve real food? Have working brakes and couplers?
Im not moaning about the, ahem, price here.... im just wondering 1) why is this more than my house payment, 2) is this how things are to be in the hobby for the near future and beyond? 3) will they take a check? 4) just add water and it grows to full size? 5) it comes with its own layout? 6) Should I change flags?
I guess the point is - ya see the darndest things float by sometimes. Then ya see things like this.
Goodnyt everyone!
A#1 North!
Douglas
Continuing to go through old pictures.
I found a picture of my first professional toolbox I bought in 1986. I think I took this picture the day I bought it.
20 years later, I still had the same top chest on my toolbox set up.
And now in 2021, it is retired and in my garage.
The toolbox is loyal!
Great modelling Ed! I'm not sure if Churchill was quite that corpulent but I'm splitting hairs.
I have to confess to being a bit of a Churchill admirer. There was a movie made years ago called 'Young Winston' which documented his early life and his military career as well as his start in politics. It was quite fascinating although the abuse he suffered in boarding school was terrible. Perhaps that was what made him as strong a man as he was. He was a bit of a nut case though. He was known to have received a few foreign dignitaries dressed only in a bath robe! His hobby was building brick walls, and he regularly spoke to his mother long after she had passed on. Heaven knows where the world would be now without him!
Dave
I'm just a dude with a bad back having a lot of fun with model trains, and finally building a layout!
SeeYou190This is the Ferdinand Magellan, the train car used by FDR in at least one presidential campaign.
More than campaigns, this was FDR's primary form of domestic transport. I have a nice model of it in HO:
IMG_8227_fix by Edmund, on Flickr
The car was used during some of Churchill's U.S. visits and I've placed Clementine, Winston, the porter, Eleanor and FDR on the platform here, on their way to Hyde Park:
IMG_8223_fix by Edmund, on Flickr
Ronald Reagan used U.S. No. 1 for a short, Ohio campaign trip on October 12, 1984.
Fun Times, Ed
Here is something in Florida from 1900-1950.
This is the Ferdinand Magellan, the train car used by FDR in at least one presidential campaign.
The car is now preserved/restored and on display in the Gold Coast Railroad Museum in Miami.
Thanks for posting that John, I would drive a few miles myself to see that engine in action.
I got a last-minute reprieve from the baseball tourney as my friend manage to scramble back from the family crises for the closing day of the tourney. Still not feeling great but the wife gave me some CBD oil with a splash of THC last night. It made a huge improvement overnight to my back to the point I went out and worked in the garden today and got back on the recumbent bike after 11 days off. That felt great.
Week two 1900s to the 1950s, my second favourite time period.
My favourite pic from that era would be this one. Vancouver's CPR coaling trestle and RH. Usually, if you click on it a bunch you can really zoom in. There is lots of details in this photo. The photo graces a whole wall in "The City of Vancouver Archives".
After over two months we had 48 hrs of rain and that was so nice. Everything smells fresh and clean again and the foliage is all smiling. Back to sunshine and temps in the high 20s (mid-80s) for the foreseeable future now. We will have good weather until mid-October and that is when I turn the furnace back on. I turn it off at the end of April for 5 1/2 months. All the doors and windows stay open for most of that time.
Field B.C. Note the rings in the TT pit. RH steam piped in to melt the snow and ice.
All the best to all.
Brent
"All of the world's problems are the result of the difference between how we think and how the world works."
Hey, John
Mrs. Pullman is visiting her sister over in Sterling, 'bout 60 miles east of you. Big state, Nebraska — small world, though Wish I knew about 4014 going through I would have sent her out on a mission with the camera.
Her BIL works for BNSF so he probably could have gotten the low-down but I didn't think to ask.
Lots of railroad expansion in the early teens:
NY_Connecting-HellGate by Edmund, on Flickr
Detroit_Tunnels by Edmund, on Flickr
GR and I_Petoskey_1908 by Edmund, on Flickr
Cheers, Ed
Good evening, everyone (evening in North America, anyway).
Great day! Went to see UP's Big Boy 4014 this afternoon.
The little town has an official population of 48, although I think that's a stretch. Of course, with this train stopping, the population grew to probably 500.
Big Boy stopped for about a half-hour. The train even had some hopper cars and a Union Pacific caboose!
Lots of kids, old railroad people, hobbyists, etc., all out having a great time.
Since I was looking into the sun with a cheap camera, the photo is not the best:
I also took this short video (about 1½ minutes) -- again not high quality video, but you get the idea.
Top of the morning to yas! It is my wish that all are doing well. Still kicking and paying taxes here! I know its only August, and this used to be the hottest time of the year here on the right coast, but its been very mild the last week. Almost as if fall is teasing. Jackets required at night.
Not much happening in the hobby, been putzing around with a few models. Mostly waiting on some detail parts to show up. Had some ordered only to get a 'refund' because for some reason the parts for sale.... werent for sale at all. Seems to be a recurring theme these days.
The parts that did show up, some are already on the models. The rest are in the procrastination bin waiting for me to get off my duff. You know how that goes. I did get a bunch of decals in. However the new airbrush rig I ordered came in wrong. I can imagine this taking weeks to get fixed. I wonder if times like this are the main ingrediant in procrastination?
Ive been looking for good brands of paint. My how things have changed in this arena.... and not for the better. Hopefully in a couple months Ill be spraying. We shall see.
Well, thats pretty much it from the sticks. Have a great evening everyone!
Clear Ahead!
SeeYou190 I have only driven to Key West one time. Since the Ferry started operating between Fort Myers and Key West, this is just a much better way to make the trip, and I have lifetime free passage on the ferry!
I have only driven to Key West one time.
Since the Ferry started operating between Fort Myers and Key West, this is just a much better way to make the trip, and I have lifetime free passage on the ferry!
Most ferries are delightful. But, we took the now defunct high speed catamaran from Portland, Maine to Yarmouth, Nova Scotia. It was billed in its advertising as some sort of luxury cruise. Actually, it was more like being packed into a giant, crowded airplane for six hours. You couldn't go out on deck because the ferry really was too fast. The inside seating was arranged into 4 sections like theaters, each with a loud movie blaring from loudspeakers. Loading and unloading cars took hours, and customs at both end took more hours.
I wasn't surprised when they went out of business.
It takes an iron man to play with a toy iron horse.
1905 shot of Illinos central building bridge over TN river.
this span has been replaced twice, first replacement was when they built the dam and put the tracks on the dam.(1944) Next replacement was when P&L took the tracks off the dam and built a new bridge down stream of the dam. (2009) the new span is not too far from 1905 crossing.
The 1905 bridge was flaoted up stream in 1944 and is used in the now CSX crossing futher up the lake.
Kevin, still sending prayers for you SIL.
My maple tree thinks it is fall already. it has started to turn red.
York1Kevin, I've always wanted to drive that route out to Key West. I don't think I will ever make it. I did get to Key West on a ship, but I always wanted to see the bridges.
It is only 5 hours, we can eat, watch a movie, or play games.
Driving vs. Ferry:
NorthBrit As it is day 8 I suggest we move to the 1900 - 1950 timeframe. On Day 16 1950 - 1980 On Day 24 1980 - 2021 David
As it is day 8 I suggest we move to the 1900 - 1950 timeframe.
On Day 16 1950 - 1980
On Day 24 1980 - 2021
SeeYou190This works for me. Since brent has not been around to give us rules (this month's format was his suggestion)
Good Morning,
It is nice here beside the pond with the sound of the waterfall. Later it will be very hot but there is nice shade here from a pine tree.
John, For some reason I was surprised you haven't driven to Key West. It likely is the only place in the US I have driven to but you haven't. In Nov/73 I drove from London, Ont where I was living, right to Key West in my '73 Nova coupe. It was a fun trip I did with a good friend from uni days who sadly is no longer with us.
A gold finch just landed on a feeder about 4' from me. We get a lot of them here.
Think I will make another coffee and enjoy this spot a little longer.
CN Charlie
I know I posted this several weeks ago, but it is one of my favorites.
An engineer poses with a brand new Pontiac and the Burlington Zephyr in Lincoln, NE, on November 23, 1940:
SeeYou190Railroading to the Florida Keys:
Kevin, I've always wanted to drive that route out to Key West. I don't think I will ever make it. I did get to Key West on a ship, but I always wanted to see the bridges.
NorthBrit Not for me. I stopped watching soaps years ago.
I have watched The Young And The Restless since before I was in High School. I have been a fan for at least 40 years. I chose the right one. There are only four or five Soap Operas (daily serial dramas) left on television.
NorthBrit As it is day 8 I suggest we move to the 1900 - 1950 timeframe. On Day 16 1950 - 1980 On Day 24 1980 - 2021
This works for me. Since brent has not been around to give us rules (this month's format was his suggestion), I am going to follow Dave's lead move to 1900-1950.
Railroading to the Florida Keys:
York1 What is the scheduled time period for this week's railroad pictures?
What is the scheduled time period for this week's railroad pictures?